Warren Treadrea - his place in history?

[lionbear]

I would have thought this thread has been fairly well positive about Treadrea, I get the feeling he is not lost in the fact he wasn't from Victoria. I think his performances from 2001 to 2005 pretty much make sure he was never not noticed as a footballer.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Yeah, I agree regarding this thread lionbear, it's been super positive.

I think Port supporters on here get a bit defensive because a lot of threads in the past regarding the matter have seen Tredrea put alongside the likes of Scott Lucas and way behind Brown, Riewoldt, Pavlich and Richo.

This thread has been 95% terrific though. It's refreshing.

 

[Damon_3388]

Wayne Carey is regarded as the greatest CHF of all time... it is interesting looking back at his finals performances. He would normally come out of the blocks firing in the Quarter Finals before being relatively quiet for the rest of the finals, his 1996 series being the most consistant:

I've dared to question Carey's greatness (particularly in finals) in the past on here, and copped heaps for it.

 

[laminex]

well that sounds pretty good
cant comment coz i'm too young (20) but pretty impressive. Will lose points for fading into non existance towards the end of his career.

Mate you are making yourself look stupid.

 

[MinerBoy]

He was a Gun.

 

[krisholio14]

Bit of a bell end as a bloke, absolute champion as a player.

 

[wce4premiership]

I said "comes across as a w***er" ... this doesn't make him a w***er, I'm not stupid enough to believe a character on the football field always amounts to w***erism off it. Everybody is portrayed in different ways.

judd as a nancy boy
Ablett as a whinging baby
milne as a ... well

Point is it doesn't tarnish their footballing credentials and only trolls will try say tredrae was not a great player. You have to be t be the best player in the afl at some point.

 

[Dazb86]

Montgomery came out and said he IS a w***er off the field as well. Wasn't well liked amongst the playing group apparently. He then also went on to say he's the best player that he ever played with. Having played with some great players in his time at the dogs/port that's a fair compliment.

 

[L_W_P]

2nd best CHF of the last 20 odd years, behind Carey. He was an absolute beast and i'll echo what everyone else has said: If he played for a Vic team he would be hailed as an all time great.

 

[Chewy]

As Wayne Carey's career wound down, Tredrea took the mantle as the league's alpha male CHF. He was taller and heavier than Carey and was a big beast of a footballer. The Stewart Loewe comparison is not such a bad one actually. He was better than Loewe (not a better mark - Loewe was probably the greatest pack mark of all time) but had a similar awkward style: ungainly, verging on unco-looking. They both looked terrible at taking set shots at goal and were liable to kick a point, or put the ball out on the full. But Tredrea also had the Carey-like ability to mark outside fifty, spin round, take one quick look at goal, then off two or three steps, launch a booming 65m drop punt straight through the middle. He'd do this at a crucial moment too and bust the game wide open.

He wasn't a swift runner like Franklin or Riewoldt. And he wasn't as deadly on the prowl like Carey or Brereton. Those guys were really dangerous running back towards goal and finding the footy. But he was a little bit like Lockett, in terms of presenting on the lead, straight up the guts, demanding the ball and getting it.

Like Tony Lockett, he was a big man with surprising agility. He'd pick up the ball and explode away from tacklers over the first five metres and have snap at goal. Size and power.

As someone else said, Tredrea was a fair player (like Stuey Loewe) Although he was intimidating, he didn't use his massive bulk to put the hurt on his opponents. So for this reason, I'd rank him slightly behind Carey, Locket and Brereton. On a par with Kernahan, although Sticks longevity probably elevates him above Tredrea

Hard to split Riewoldt, Brown and Tredrea. They all looked better than each other at various stages of their careers. Style points probably count against him. Style probably doesn't count for much, but when you're trying to separate the very best footballers, it's probably the only way.

I don't know why people focus so much on Tredrea's personality "defects" and what a shit bloke he supposedly he is. I rate footballers by their on-field deeds. I couldn't care less about that other stuff. It's not as though I'm looking for a boyfriend.

What's with people? Tony Lockett seems like a c*** of a bloke to me... Or Dermie, the self-promoting egotistical w***er... Gary Ablett... a total train wreck... Say no more... Wayne Carey... All of the above.... Do people mention these things when discussing their place in football history?bSo why does Tredrea cop it?

 

[BornPort]

Met Warren Treadrea out one night at a bar he owns. Even though he was working at the time he had all the time in the world for me and my mates. half of which were crows supporters. He chatted to us for a bit and then we had a photo with him. Great bloke.

 

[Jimmy C]

Clearly haven't read any posts but my three thoughts re Warren:
- Presti loved him
- The telephone
- The Bow

End thread please mods mercy rule

 

[frantelle]

Was comfortably the best forward in the league for half a decade. Despite being an elite marker, I'll always remember his ability to take a mark and comfortably being able to wheel around onto the left and launch it 55m+ into the forward line, its a skill you seldom see these days

 

[Knight Ryders]

Bradman was a **** of the highest order apparently but still far and away the best cricketer to ever have played the game.

Just like JB instantly turned Lions around, I feel that this is a huge reason behind Port's fortunes this year. They are really missing the onfield leadership this year (being exaggerated by Cassisi not playing as well).

Absolutely killed Essendon just about everytime he played us and saw a lot of him play over the years. Champion player chopped down in his prime by his knees, but still able to be influential. I believe his breakout game as a teenager was a 8 goal 17 mark game against Carlton at Optus. Very nice breakout game!

 

[Schulzenfest]

Think that if you put Treadrea into Carlton's 2011 team they would nearly win the premiership.

If you put 2002 Tredrea into Geelong's 2007 team they'd have equalled Collingwood's premiership record and be on their way to breaking it this year. And we would've lost the Grand Final by more than 119.

I was also told at the time that Fevola's ****-up at the Brownlow was investigated fully because it was Tredrea who moaned & complained so hard to the AFL that action had to take action.

Let's assume this is true, which is meeting you more than halfway.

Fev gets plastered at the Brownlow when he's supposed to be doing a job for the Footy Show, allegedly sexually assaults someone and makes such a bad show of himself that his club immediately puts him on the trade table even though he just won the Coleman. Tredders disapproves of the above actions.

Who's the w***er in this situation?

Montgomery came out and said he IS a w***er off the field as well.

Montgomery also abuses cancer patients. Who gives a **** what he has to say about who is or isn't a w***er.

 

[Rave Slave]

As a man who can't ****ing stand the ground that the power exists on I can still honestly say that if you can't recognise Warren Tredrea as one of the great power forwards of the modern era then you clearly didn't either understand just how good he was at his peak or you're just plain ignorant.

If the guy wore black and white stripes he'd be regarded in the same ilk as a Carey. w***er of a bloke or not he's criminally underrated in footballing circles.

 

[Power King]

As Wayne Carey's career wound down, Tredrea took the mantle as the league's alpha male CHF. He was taller and heavier than Carey and was a big beast of a footballer. The Stewart Loewe comparison is not such a bad one actually. He was better than Loewe (not a better mark - Loewe was probably the greatest pack mark of all time) but had a similar awkward style: ungainly, verging on unco-looking. They both looked terrible at taking set shots at goal and were liable to kick a point, or put the ball out on the full. But Tredrea also had the Carey-like ability to mark outside fifty, spin round, take one quick look at goal, then off two or three steps, launch a booming 65m drop punt straight through the middle. He'd do this at a crucial moment too and bust the game wide open.

He wasn't a swift runner like Franklin or Riewoldt. And he wasn't as deadly on the prowl like Carey or Brereton. Those guys were really dangerous running back towards goal and finding the footy. But he was a little bit like Lockett, in terms of presenting on the lead, straight up the guts, demanding the ball and getting it.

Like Tony Lockett, he was a big man with surprising agility. He'd pick up the ball and explode away from tacklers over the first five metres and have snap at goal. Size and power.

As someone else said, Tredrea was a fair player (like Stuey Loewe) Although he was intimidating, he didn't use his massive bulk to put the hurt on his opponents. So for this reason, I'd rank him slightly behind Carey, Locket and Brereton. On a par with Kernahan, although Sticks longevity probably elevates him above Tredrea

Hard to split Riewoldt, Brown and Tredrea. They all looked better than each other at various stages of their careers. Style points probably count against him. Style probably doesn't count for much, but when you're trying to separate the very best footballers, it's probably the only way.

I don't know why people focus so much on Tredrea's personality "defects" and what a shit bloke he supposedly he is. I rate footballers by their on-field deeds. I couldn't care less about that other stuff. It's not as though I'm looking for a boyfriend.

What's with people? Tony Lockett seems like a c*** of a bloke to me... Or Dermie, the self-promoting egotistical w***er... Gary Ablett... a total train wreck... Say no more... Wayne Carey... All of the above.... Do people mention these things when discussing their place in football history?bSo why does Tredrea cop it?

lol'd.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

Just a shameless little bump for everyone who forgot just how goddamn dominating the great man was at his peak. Here he is in 2004, the year he captained us to a premiership and was quite easily the biggest force in the AFL at that time.

[youtube]XHgqPR073ao[/youtube]

 

[tribey]

^Some fine examples of the kind of stuff he never gets remembered for outside of Alberton like his gathering of half-volleys below his knees at speed, his ability to swing onto his opposite side, the sheer precision of his field-kicking, quick hands and defensive pressure above and beyond the usual fare of his leading, marking and power.

The contest, tackle, spin move, acceleration and spot-up of Josh Mahoney from 6:38-6:51 was insane.

 

[PhoenixPower]

So glad to see so many non port fans agree with where he belongs in history regardless of what they think of him or port

The guy was a beast for a long time - respect where it's due

 

[Kong]

I've said this on the Port board before, but I rate Tredrea above Jonathan Brown.

Comfortably, actually.

Between 2000 and 2004, he was an animal. He (or Riewoldt) should've won that 2004 Brownlow.

He was perhaps as dominant as Buddy Franklin when he was on, which was more often than not.

People often scoff when I say it, but those three or four years are as good as I can remember from a CHF, post Carey.

 

[Taper]

Tredrea is Port's greatest player, he is also their only premiership captain.
Still quite underrated outside SA, he was every bit as good as N Riewoldt, J Brown and Pavlich.

Ricciuto is similarly underrated outside SA.
He was every bit as good as Voss, Hird and Buckley.
Ricciuto is also the Crows GOAT.

 

[HugeJohnson]

Tredrea is Port's greatest player, he is also their only premiership captain.
Still quite underrated outside SA, he was every bit as good as N Riewoldt, J Brown and Pavlich.

Ricciuto is similarly underrated outside SA.
He was every bit as good as Voss, Hird and Buckley.
Ricciuto is also the Crows GOAT.

Bern putting this post together for 13 years?