WCE looking for speedy mids already in the system.

[MaxHunt]

Agreed.

I have no gravitational pull to these players, rather looking forward to pushing our current youngsters and blooding a few more in the seasons to come.

If it means another 2 yrs of pain so be it.

Saddle up.

Not even Prismall? Don't think he's worth trading for?

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

So he was just talking bollox was he?

He wasn't talking about anything specific, and didn't make any commitments.

He was just saying generally that, "if there are some established midfielders floating around, we might have a look."

Which is basically the same waffle that every coach offers up. It doesn't mean shit.

Drafting only young players is no 100% guarantee ticket back to the top. i expect a bit of both.

Guarantees don't come into it. We're talking about what's smart.

I'm yet to hear any names that really make me want to trade for players.

You're just bored and need to occupy yourself with bullshit trade scenarios.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Not even Prismall? Don't think he's worth trading for?

What does "worth trading for" mean?

The question is: "Is Prismall worth what Geelong would want?"

Firstly, Geelong will probably re-sign him.

Secondly, if they want pick 20, I'm not interested.

Thirdly, if Prismall is on the move, there will be plenty of clubs having a sniff. We shouldn't throw money at him just for the sake of it.

 

[Biggie]

Not even Prismall? Don't think he's worth trading for?

What would Geelong want for Prismall?

Pick #20? Too much imo.

He will probably play within Vic anyways Max, so no, not even Prismall.

 

[MaxHunt]

He wasn't talking about anything specific, and didn't make any commitments.

He was just saying generally that, "if there are some established midfielders floating around, we might have a look."

Show me the article or interview that said that.

Guarantees don't come into it. We're talking about what's smart.

A balance of youth and experience is whats smart. 2nd youngest list in the league. Nothing too hard there.

I'm yet to hear any names that really make me want to trade for players.

Fine up to you.. how many live games have u seen Prismall play this year?

You're just bored and need to occupy yourself with bullshit trade scenarios.

Show me all the bullshit trade scenarios I have put up in the last month or so... or in total for that matter, maybe 2. You are the bored one looking for an argument. Can't understand why you constantly do this. You make valid points all the time but you post like you are some expert when really you are throwing stones from the other side of the world and totally detached from the current situation.

 

[MaxHunt]

What would Geelong want for Prismall?

Pick #20? Too much imo.

He will probably play within Vic anyways Max, so no, not even Prismall.

Yeah the Vic thing is an issue. I think hes worth 20 maybe even plus a player.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Show me the article or interview that said that.

You show me the article - you're the one who claimed Worsfold's comments as evidence of our trading strategy.

My counter-point is that Woosha made no real commitment that we should be expecting him to fulfil.

A balance of youth and experience is whats smart. 2nd youngest list in the league. Nothing too hard there.

This isn't a point.

We've got a young list. That's a good thing.

We're not close enough to start looking at top-up players.

Fine up to you.. how many live games have u seen Prismall play this year?.

I've seen enough of Prismall to know that he looks a good player. But it's unlikely that he'll end up at WC and if he did, we'd have to part with something of considerable value.

And I'm not convinced he'd be as good at WC as he's been at Geelong.

Either way, it's just another pie in the sky scenario designed to occupy idle minds.

Show me all the bullshit trade scenarios I have put up in the last month or so... or in total for that matter, maybe 2. You are the bored one looking for an argument. Can't understand why you constantly do this. You make valid points all the time but you post like you are some expert when really you are throwing stones from the other side of the world and totally detached from the current situation.

This is waffle, mate.

Argue the topic. So I'm in London - big deal.

The trade scenarios put up on this board have been mostly bullshit and, even if plausible, wouldn't be that good for us.

 

[Hap Hapablap]

woosha has said he is looking to bring in mids already playing at afl level... so we should expect this to happen. for me there are 2 players we should targeting... prismall and/or ray

corey isnt a bad idea either and he hasnt resigned could come here if he gets his 2nd medallion

 

[bodazoka]

Its all down to will player X play better when he is playing for the eagles. I dont think anyone can read into the future and if your talking about a player all ready in the system that cant consistantly break into the starting 22 than to draft him you have to look at his potential not his current playing ability. unless of course you have gaping holes in your line up you want to fill, which I dont think we have a need to do atm. (eg warsfold should be confident in his job atm that he doesnt need instant results next year)

 

[Biggie]

Not convinced on Corey MAG.

Does look good when surrounded by Bartel, GAblett and Co.

Would probably struggle as the #1 (or #2 if Kerr stays) mid I feel.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

corey isnt a bad idea either and he hasnt resigned could come here if he gets his 2nd medallion

And what would you offer in return?

Corey will turn 27 in February. How old do you reckon he'll be when we're next in the top 4?

 

[MaxHunt]

You show me the article - you're the one who claimed Worsfold's comments as evidence of our trading strategy.

Don't back away show me something that backs up your claims. Or are you just killing time?

We've got a young list. That's a good thing. We're not close enough to start looking at top-up players.

22 y/o's are top up players are they?

I've seen enough of Prismall to know that he looks a good player. But it's unlikely that he'll end up at WC and if he did, we'd have to part with something of considerable value.

Without doubt.

And I'm not convinced he'd be as good at WC as he's been at Geelong.

Fair enough, that is a risk

Either way, it's just another pie in the sky scenario designed to occupy idle minds.

Your constant arguing could be construed in the same way

This is waffle, mate. Argue the topic.

My point exactly. This should not be a argument, rather a discussion... but you for some reason need to argue. Must give you some pleasure.

The trade scenarios put up this board have been mostly bullshit and, even if plausible, wouldn't be that good for us.

totally agree. the talk of trading away KKP or our PP pick is just daft.

 

[MaxHunt]

What would Geelong want for Prismall?

Pick #20? Too much imo.

He will probably play within Vic anyways Max, so no, not even Prismall.

Big Man, take a quick look at the draftees at around the 20 over the last 5-6 years. Excluding last years, as we draft notte and selwood, there are not that many gems. Actually there is noone in the class of prismall. Butler was pick 20 and looks the goods if he can get his body right but i think prismall is better.

 

[koaster]

According to the news over here in the papers and on tv the only premiership player that hasn't signed up is Paul Chapman and that's suppose to be a done deal. This has come from the media and the Geelong president of their cheer squad who I see at meetings. It still could be wrong though so don't take it as a done deal.

 

[happy_eagle]

Did you listen to the interview with Woosha when he talked about getting speedy mids Gunnar ?

 

[Hap Hapablap]

And what would you offer in return?

Corey will turn 27 in February. How old do you reckon he'll be when we're next in the top 4?

gunnar, corey has 5 years still in him, hes consistant and he has one thing that would help the team a lot. experience. the only experienced pure midfielder we've got is kerr. getting corey will remove a burden off kerr and help the kids to move more easily think about it rich masten and ebert will be the 3, 4 ad 5th midfielders which will allow them to move freely and develop more. if we lose kerr and get no one to replace them the kids will literally get shafted. sure priddis is there and lynch and staker at times but them 3 as our main midfield? surely we'll be the laughing stock of the comp. ebert and masten have shown potential but both are coming off op. they arent gonna light the stage on fire

i know corey doesnt have it in him to just leave geelong and go to the psd so we will have to give something up. i reckon this entire draft we will just concentrate on midfielders. i dont know what would be a perfect deal but think about it. geelong are about to reach salary cap, corey has stated his intentions to return and play in WA one day (article in 2006 as soon as i find it ill post the link) during his career and we need an experienced midfielder that can run and be consistent.

people may suggest that corey is a flat runner however he has been the most consistent since he started even in geelongs dark days. geelong wont be able to bear losing him however they may have to be pushed due to the cap. they are bound to trade some players. corey in the side will probably get us top 4 in 2010. a decent run for the middys next season without a massive tag as well as kerr to shake it off a bit will do the midfield wonders.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Don't back away show me something that backs up your claims. Or are you just killing time?

It's your claim.

You said: "woosha has said he is looking to bring in mids already playing at afl level... so we should expect this to happen."

And you then demanded I provide a source when I said those comments don't mean much.

You're the one relying on Woosha's comments. I'm just putting them in context and saying they're not the be-all and end-all.

If anyone should be providing source material, it's you.

22 y/o's are top up players are they?

Yeah - they can be.

Ultimately, it's about whether we go for quick fixes ahead of developing our own. I'd prefer we didn't.

You constant arguing could be construed in the same way

If you can't handle having someone disagree with you, that's your problem.

My point exactly. This should not be a argument, rather a discussion... but you for some reason need to argue. Must give you some pleasure.

Pfffttt - whatever you reckon, mate. I'm not interested in your semantic distinction between a discussion and an argument.

I don't agree with some of your conclusions. Deal with it.

 

[Hap Hapablap]

According to the news over here in the papers and on tv the only premiership player that hasn't signed up is Paul Chapman and that's suppose to be a done deal. This has come from the media and the Geelong president of their cheer squad who I see at meetings. It still could be wrong though so don't take it as a done deal.

corey hasnt resigned. as soon as i see a article stating it he still hasnt resigned.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Did you listen to the interview with Woosha when he talked about getting speedy mids Gunnar ?

I have read the reports and his quotes.

Hardly cast-iron.

We're not going to pay over the odds for a guy just because he's quick.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

gunnar, corey has 5 years still in him, hes consistant and he has one thing that would help the team a lot. experience. the only experienced pure midfielder we've got is kerr. getting corey will remove a burden off kerr and help the kids to move more easily think about it rich masten and ebert will be the 3, 4 ad 5th midfielders which will allow them to move freely and develop more. if we lose kerr and get no one to replace them the kids will literally get shafted. sure priddis is there and lynch and staker at times but them 3 as our main midfield? surely we'll be the laughing stock of the comp. ebert and masten have shown potential but both are coming off op. they arent gonna light the stage on fire

i know corey doesnt have it in him to just leave geelong and go to the psd so we will have to give something up. i reckon this entire draft we will just concentrate on midfielders. i dont know what would be a perfect deal but think about it. geelong are about to reach salary cap, corey has stated his intentions to return and play in WA one day (article in 2006 as soon as i find it ill post the link) during his career and we need an experienced midfielder that can run and be consistent.

people may suggest that corey is a flat runner however he has been the most consistent since he started even in geelongs dark days. geelong wont be able to bear losing him however they may have to be pushed due to the cap. they are bound to trade some players. corey in the side will probably get us top 4 in 2010. a decent run for the middys next season without a massive tag as well as kerr to shake it off a bit will do the midfield wonders.

So what would you be prepared to give up in return for Corey?

I've asked you that already, but you didn't answer here.

 

[MaxHunt]

It's your claim.

You said: "woosha has said he is looking to bring in mids already playing at afl level... so we should expect this to happen."

And you then demanded I provide a source when I said those comments don't mean much.

You're the one relying on Woosha's comments. I'm just putting them in context and saying they're not the be-all and end-all.

If anyone should be providing source material, it's you.

its the claim in this thread. load of people heard it. you are the one saying its not what was said.... so prove it or shut it. You are fighting solo here.

Yeah - they can be.

Ultimately, it's about whether we go for quick fixes ahead of developing our own. I'd prefer we didn't.

total bollox. absolute hot air.

If you can't handle having someone disagree with you, that's your problem.

Pfffttt - whatever you reckon, mate. I'm not interested in your semantic distinction between a discussion and an argument.

I don't agree with some of your conclusions. Deal with it.

No issues with someone disagreeing. I have issues with tossers trying to post as if they are the authority on all things west coast when really they have as much info as the rest of us.

 

[MaxHunt]

Did you listen to the interview with Woosha when he talked about getting speedy mids Gunnar ?

There's no chance he did. Just doesn't like being wrong. And will not admit it.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

its the claim in this thread. load of people heard it. you are the one saying its not what was said.... so prove it or shut it. You are fighting solo here.

I don't deny that he said it.

I'm saying that it doesn't mean much. You're treating it as a guarantee that we'll trade for an established mid, when it's far from that.

total bollox. absolute hot air.

Er, OK.

That's not very persuasive.

Would you like to add something coherent?

No issues with someone disagreeing. I have issues with tossers trying to post as if they are the authority on all things west coast when really they have NFI.

Try to stay on topic, champ.

You haven't done very well so far.

Maybe try to make a point next time.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

There's no chance he did. Just doesn't like being wrong. And will not admit it.

Er - what am I wrong about?

I'm not disputing the comments.

I'm arguing that they're not as significant as you think they are.

Woosha has expressed an interest in a certain type of player i.e. quick AFL-ready mids. No shit. Who would have guessed? He really let the cat out of the bag there, didn't he?

Doesn't mean we're actually going to trade for one. A lot of variables have to line up for a deal to get done. A vague, non-commital, verbal interest two or three months before trade week counts for SFA.

If you want to hang your hat on one thing Woosha said in an interview, that's fine. But I'd prefer to look at the players who might actually fall into that category and assess a) whether they're what we need and b) how much we'd need to give up to get them.

I can't think of too many who tick the boxes.

Tellingly, you've made no plausible suggestions as to who we might trade for and what it might cost us.

 

[koaster]

corey hasnt resigned. as soon as i see a article stating it he still hasnt resigned.

I'm still a newbie on here so I don't know how to post a link. I did however google contracted players for Geelong and came up with a site that showed the players who haven't sign. The site is www.footypost.com.au under out of contract players. It says that the only uncontracted players from Geelong are Nathan Ablett and Paul Chapman. Feel free to check it out.