Welcome Welcome Quinton “Sparkle” Narkle - Delisted Free Agent

[Arcassius]

Overall I don't think there is that much abuse on here. Nothing like Twitter/Facebook.

Yeah there isn't as much as other places. Still doesn't make it ok when it does happen

I know it’s probably wrong to ask, but is that his natural hair colour?

Yeah it is. You can tell by his eyebrows and stubble. Really cool huh

 

[Piggy Smalls]

This is legitimately insulting to both or those players, especially Son Son. Our small forward stocks are natural disaster levels of bad. The club is taking the piss by neglecting a role that has featured prominently in almost all recent flag sides.

Shai Bolton is a stud but after that it drops off like the ****ing Kangshung Face. And Bolton is a hybrid mid/fwd anyway.

It's been said earlier in this thread but there is a Kosi Pickett element to this acquisition. The chess pieces are moving.

 

[pK75]

Honestly I never mind these sort of pick-ups. Yeah may cause some frustration being a lower tier best 23/high tier best 24-30 player but you need these sort of players creating healthy pressure for spots, better quality training competition and better quality injury cover. May even improve in quality like Aish and become a solid staple of the team. If not, didn't really cost us much and he doesn't appear to be a detriment on club culture either.

Welcome Narkle, solid recruit.

Agree wholeheartedly with this, I questioned the Wagner recruitment at first after being delisted by two previous clubs, but he’s pushed his way past Aish into the starting 22, competition for spots is crucial, and for all we know, he could push past a Switta, Frederick or Sturt for a forward role, or JOM or Banfield for the defensive wing role. All the while providing decent depth as injury cover.

 

[GoFreo4eva]

I long to see more of us armchair experts show just some basic respect for a player who is also a real person, not a an inanimate dartboard to be a helpless target for any cheap Slings and arrows. Yes this is a forum for all opinions but the above us mine, and so as legitimate as anyone else’s.

I say welcome to Freo, Quinton Narkle! And if any of your family visit BF - which they doubtless do - I’d also say most of us are pleased that you are adding to our long, justly proud history of Indigenous players.

Well said! QN played some good games at both Geelong and Port. Maybe as others have said it’s third time lucky for him ata a club that has helped others find their niche. At worst he is very handy depth that we know cam play at the level needed..

 

[Bigger]

The game day threads are as bad as it gets on BF. Some seriously awful comments at times. Hopefully no AFL listed players ever reads them.

Hopefully they’re too busy at the time.

 

[apuchar]

I know it’s probably wrong to ask, but is that his natural hair colour?

Some northern Aboriginal people are blond, so it is possible.

 

[Superkoops]

Some northern Aboriginal people are blond, so it is possible.

I remember watching him and Bolton play at Wesley and he had same blonde coloured hair.

 

[mightymouse75]

Some northern Aboriginal people are blond, so it is possible.

Unless there is some albinoism they probably have European ancestry.
50,000 years of segregation from the first wave of migration out of Africa. They weren't losing any pigment in this sunburnt land.

 

[TheLastCall]

Unless there is some albinoism they probably have European ancestry.
50,000 years of segregation from the first wave of migration out of Africa. They weren't losing any pigment in this sunburnt land.

There are reports of early ship wreck survivors join up with the tribes up north. Possibly very early dutch shipwrecks where the survivors had no chance of rescue.

 

[Ghost Pig]

Unless there is some albinoism they probably have European ancestry.
50,000 years of segregation from the first wave of migration out of Africa. They weren't losing any pigment in this sunburnt land.

I apologise in advance for the drivel but I find the breadcrumbs of human migration to be super interesting and thought I'd put in my two bob.

While European heritage, at this point, could be a likely cause for Quinton's pale locks, did you know blonde hair in the native populations of Melanesia is caused by a gene not present at all in Europeans? TYRP1.


(Boy from Lilisiana, Solomon Islands)

Two interbreeding events with Neanderthal and Denisovan populations on the way from Africa to Oceania also differentiates the people who arrived in this region from the "pure" modern humans who left Sub-Saharan Africa, the Denisovan encounter differentiates them also from the modern human and Neanderthal admix of most Eurasians.




Whether there has been a similar mutation event to TYRP1 contributing to blonde hair in some first nation mob here in Australia is not known for certain but data collected in the mid 1900's and collated on the map below shows an interesting concentration (upwards of 95%) of the blonde hair expression in the people of the continents West central desert region and an almost complete absence (0-10%) on the Eastern third and Northern coast. It's incomplete data and from less sophisticated times, but striking nevertheless.



The Dutch shipwreck survivors is an interesting suggestion, but the vast dispersion and high concentration of blonde haired people, descending from an optimistically very small number of survivors, paired with an almost total absence of other European traits in those areas, suggests other unknown and less romantic factors to likely be causal.


(Warlpiri girl, Northern Territory)

The earliest human migration into Oceania truly must've been an epic tale, oh to be a fly on the wall, the first great human explorers!

 

[freo1997]

Zuytdorp/Nanda Tribe/George Grey & A.C Gregory log entries are all connected. The Nanda tribe had different looking homes and horticultural practices which is on record from the two explorers mentioned above. George Grey had an aboriginal right-hand man with him named Kaiber who never heard their dialect which had many dutch words morphed in. A.C Gregory noted they had blondish hair and European features.

It is a very interesting read and unfortunately swept under the rug as the English like to think they were first europeans here..they most definitely weren't.

In 2018 the Nanda people won a 20 year legal battle for land rights, using George Grey's diary entries to help their case which is a fun fact. If you find the river mouth near port gregory, go 2 miles south from that location and you will see yellow/lightish soil that doesn't belong. Reading the entries that's where they found these farms which they never saw anywhere else.

Hope you like the history lesson, someone posted about Zuytdorp above and I have an interest in 1700/early 1800s history of WA.

 

[mightymouse75]

I apologise in advance for the drivel but I find the breadcrumbs of human migration to be super interesting and thought I'd put in my two bob.

While European heritage, at this point, could be a likely cause for Quinton's pale locks, did you know blonde hair in the native populations of Melanesia is caused by a gene not present at all in Europeans? TYRP1.

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(Boy from Lilisiana, Solomon Islands)

Two interbreeding events with Neanderthal and Denisovan populations on the way from Africa to Oceania also differentiates the people who arrived in this region from the "pure" modern humans who left Sub-Saharan Africa, the Denisovan encounter differentiates them also from the modern human and Neanderthal admix of most Eurasians.




Whether there has been a similar mutation event to TYRP1 contributing to blonde hair in some first nation mob here in Australia is not known for certain but data collected in the mid 1900's and collated on the map below shows an interesting concentration (upwards of 95%) of the blonde hair expression in the people of the continents West central desert region and an almost complete absence (0-10%) on the Eastern third and Northern coast. It's incomplete data and from less sophisticated times, but striking nevertheless.

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The Dutch shipwreck survivors is an interesting suggestion, but the vast dispersion and high concentration of blonde haired people, descending from an optimistically very small number of survivors, paired with an almost total absence of other European traits in those areas, suggests other unknown and less romantic factors to likely be causal.

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(Warlpiri girl, Northern Territory)

The earliest human migration into Oceania truly must've been an epic tale, oh to be a fly on the wall, the first great human explorers!

Thanks for that.

I am also fascinated with human history, global politics & all the epic adventures we have had to get where we are today. Geographically & technically.

1 of my favourite games is guessing someone's heritage
Only on willing participants.

It's believed that the Australian indigenous population does not have any neanderthal DNA pre colonisation. Unlike Europeans who have 1 to 2%.

Instead they picked up the denisovan DNA, 3 to 5% on their epic journey through Asia before being cut off from PNG at the end of the last mini ice age 20,000 years ago.

Stefan Milo is a good YouTube channel to connect with if you haven't watched it already.

 

[mightymouse75]

Zuytdorp/Nanda Tribe/George Grey & A.C Gregory log entries are all connected. The Nanda tribe had different looking homes and horticultural practices which is on record from the two explorers mentioned above. George Grey had an aboriginal right-hand man with him named Kaiber who never heard their dialect which had many dutch words morphed in. A.C Gregory noted they had blondish hair and European features.

It is a very interesting read and unfortunately swept under the rug as the English like to think they were first europeans here..they most definitely weren't.

In 2018 the Nanda people won a 20 year legal battle for land rights, using George Grey's diary entries to help their case which is a fun fact. If you find the river mouth near port gregory, go 2 miles south from that location and you will see yellow/lightish soil that doesn't belong. Reading the entries that's where they found these farms which they never saw anywhere else.

Hope you like the history lesson, someone posted about Zuytdorp above and I have an interest in 1700/early 1800s history of WA.

Blue eyes along with blonde hair, some with a genetical disease that is only found in the netherlands, the Cape & the murchison aboriginals.
They need to do proper research on it.
They have tried in the past with a lot of locals being suspicious of DNA testing fearing they would lose land rights.
It's definitely a rabbit hole we need to go down.
Fascinating stuff.

 

[DQ 4EVER]

Sorry to drop the intellectual level with this post (some will undoubtedly state I always do), but if Narkle doesn't play many AFL games next year, I'm betting he wins the best club man aw award.
For the record, I do rate him & hope he gets games

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[freo1997]

Blue eyes along with blonde hair, some with a genetical disease that is only found in the netherlands, the Cape & the murchison aboriginals.
They need to do proper research on it.
They have tried in the past with a lot of locals being suspicious of DNA testing fearing they would lose land rights.
It's definitely a rabbit hole we need to go down.
Fascinating stuff.

The early english explorers with nothing to gain lying. All said the area between Kalbarri and Bowes was like nothing they had seen up to that point in any part of Australia. The "man made" paths to the yam farms, well built houses and the dialogue spoken. Was extremely unique. As you said many in that tribe had Dutch traits too. That disease you're referring to is interesting. The Cape was the only stop before the shipwreck wasn't it....

On the shipwreck, i think there had to be at least 20 survivors minimum, as there was so many things brought ashore. Some think they went north as there was a tobacco box found at Wale Well, but I think that could've been picked up and brought there by indigenous. The stories passed down by the ancestors of the Malgana tribe is that the Zuytdorp survivors mixed with the Nanda people.

This tribe had such a good set up near Port Gregory, the english men on the Journey back to Perth with George Grey (who later became PM of New Zealand) referred to it as a town. These men didn't exactly respect the indigenous but were taken aback at the town built and their horticulture efforts. Kaiber who was an Aboriginal from the Perth region and the right hand man to George Grey on the journey.. it's noted in the Journal he didn't know much about the farms and hadn't seen it before.

 

[Stinky Lomax]

Watching him next to Bolton working the weights I have a gut feel that Narkle is going to surprise us all. His highlights package is not of a player who has not played much because he’s an average player.
He has unique skills & this environment could be where he reaches his full potential which I really don’t think he has got near.
Consistency has been the issue & getting this opportunity, potentially his last, alongside a very good mate at home could pay huge dividends for the club.
I’m actually pretty excited to see what he brings & think he could form a pretty formidable partnership with Bolton.

 

[mightymouse75]

Watching him next to Bolton working the weights I have a gut feel that Narkle is going to surprise us all. His highlights package is not of a player who has not played much because he’s an average player.
He has unique skills & this environment could be where he reaches his full potential which I really don’t think he has got near.
Consistency has been the issue & getting this opportunity, potentially his last, alongside a very good mate at home could pay huge dividends for the club.
I’m actually pretty excited to see what he brings & think he could form a pretty formidable partnership with Bolton.

God damn I love the off season

 

[oldgoat]

Thanks for that.

I am also fascinated with human history, global politics & all the epic adventures we have had to get where we are today. Geographically & technically.

1 of my favourite games is guessing someone's heritage
Only on willing participants.

It's believed that the Australian indigenous population does not have any neanderthal DNA pre colonisation. Unlike Europeans who have 1 to 2%.

Instead they picked up the denisovan DNA, 3 to 5% on their epic journey through Asia before being cut off from PNG at the end of the last mini ice age 20,000 years ago.

Stefan Milo is a good YouTube channel to connect with if you haven't watched it already.

Well done Piggy and Mousey.
Youse raised the bar on this one.
It was getting a bit chalk on blackboard sounding

 

[Troy Cooked It]

Ill go into bat for Narkle, think he is a massive upgrade on Emmett who played 13 games last season.
Not that I think he will get big numbers at all, but he just won't break the chain down with a fumble or missed pass. Great depth to have who is pretty clean with his hands and doesn't crumble to pressure.

A side note to mention as well to give faith to the non believers, as a club we have recent proven form of taking a twice delisted player and getting them to contribute to the team. At the least I think Narkle will be a contributor which to be honest, that is all we need him for.

 

[Lach72]

Watching him next to Bolton working the weights I have a gut feel that Narkle is going to surprise us all. His highlights package is not of a player who has not played much because he’s an average player.
He has unique skills & this environment could be where he reaches his full potential which I really don’t think he has got near.
Consistency has been the issue & getting this opportunity, potentially his last, alongside a very good mate at home could pay huge dividends for the club.
I’m actually pretty excited to see what he brings & think he could form a pretty formidable partnership with Bolton.

Docker82 just had a stroke, and not the good kind

 

[gungho]

Ill go into bat for Narkle, think he is a massive upgrade on Emmett who played 13 games last season.
Not that I think he will get big numbers at all, but he just won't break the chain down with a fumble or missed pass. Great depth to have who is pretty clean with his hands and doesn't crumble to pressure.

A side note to mention as well to give faith to the non believers, as a club we have recent proven form of taking a twice delisted player and getting them to contribute to the team. At the least I think Narkle will be a contributor which to be honest, that is all we need him for.

Who are the first medium/ small forwards picked next year. Reckon it will be:

Bolton
Freddy
Switta
Sturt
Walters
Banfield
Narkle.


So, he’s coming from a long way back to get a game.

 

[Docker82]

Who are the first medium/ small forwards picked next year. Reckon it will be:

Bolton
Freddy
Switta
Sturt
Walters
Banfield
Narkle.


So, he’s coming from a long way back to get a game.

He'll be this board's whipping boy by about his second or third game. Nothing is surer.

 

[Stinky Lomax]

Docker82 just had a stroke, and not the good kind

That’s because he’s concerned he’ll go past Freddy who clearly doesn’t do enough but he’ll back him until the cows come home.

 

[Docker82]

That’s because he’s concerned he’ll go past Freddy who clearly doesn’t do enough but he’ll back him until the cows come home.

I'll remember this in October next year when Narkle is delisted.

 

[Dayts]

I’d bet ge gets another year if Kozzie comes over
Just to sweeten the pitch