Welcome Welcome to Freo Murphy Reid - pick 17 of the 2024 Draft

[greatgatsby]

A bit different to days past
When even in under 13s bush league you weren’t a good footballer unless you could use both feet and hands and it was trained accordingly

I think part of the reason the game has changed is the way good ball use is treasured now (or ball security as it's called in other forms of footy). Throwing it on your left when you're in trouble is a no-no and good players focus on using their strength and mobility to get themselves into a position to use their natural foot to advantage.

 

[greatgatsby]

In considering how modern day players go about it, it occurred to me that two 2x Brownlow winners - Fyfe and Neale - have no real left side.

 

[Purple Suit]

My argument is really simple. It appears really hard for guys drafted as midfielders to perform well in the forward line in their first few years when playing there.

Will Cooper Simpson disprove this theory? He might, but it doesn’t look promising so far.

You could make the argument that nobody has been played there, but I reckon they have. Even really high draft picks that play there (like Serong, Young and Brayshaw) did not perform well there in their first 5 years - when played there.

Like I said, Snuffy made the comment that Reid should be played in the forward line when he comes in. My only response was that might not be such a great idea. It is not an opinion that I have pulled out of my arse. It is an opinion based on evidence.

Why are you still going on about this?

Serong & Young played forward this year in their 5th seasons to great affect. Multiple goals from both. If we decided to train them there I recon they would be amazing but it will be more beneficial to the team to leave them in the middle. The opposite of playing Pav in the middle for years.

Reid is a long shot to make it as a specialised forward pocket but he has the skills and production to make it as a half forward. This isn’t a big reach & covers a need. Bolton can do anything at an extremely high level so we can use him as a forward pocket till we trade in Pickett, Delean comes on or we recruit another next season.

 

[Joao]

I don't expect any player to make much of a difference on a HFF in their first year or two, regardless of where they played as a junior. It's a hard position to play well and certainly a hard position to get a lot of stats.

 

[theGav56]

This.

Given Callum's earlier rankings, the poor guy was probably expecting to be take in the top ten somewhere.

Even if I'm wrong though, he had to sit there and watch himself be passed over 16 consecutive times, including being repeatedly passed over by his favorite team.

The guy had been interviewed by multiple clubs, multiple times... Yet on the night, he sees so many of them decide other players are better.

Then Freo come along and grab him with their very first pick. Once he realised it was Freo that wanted him the most, and made him their highest priority, then he warmed to the idea of moving West pretty quickly.

I reckon his dad realized all this first though, and -- great man that he is -- he led the way emotionally for his son to embrace the idea he would be most valued here (he also turned his back on his traditional club in a heartbeat, all for his son. That's real love folks!)

And please reemember folks -- Reid is just 17/18 yo. Who the hell amongst us had a balanced and mature viewpoint about their dreams and opportunities at that age??? I certainly didn't!

Spot on. His childhood dream was on schedule to unfold at the draft and it was certain he was heading to Richmond. He would've been sitting there in his Black and Yella undies hoping Dustie would be handing him the jumper. Until they didn't want him.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Spot on. His childhood dream was on schedule to unfold at the draft and it was certain he was heading to Richmond. He would've been sitting there in his Black and Yella undies hoping Dustie would be handing him the jumper. Until they didn't want him.

Give him a locker next to Shai. He'll be fine.

 

[Ghost Pig]

The last Richmond supporter we drafted, that I'm aware of, went on to win two Brownlows in purple. A good omen perhaps?

 

[stax on the mull]

In considering how modern day players go about it, it occurred to me that two 2x Brownlow winners - Fyfe and Neale - have no real left side.

Watch that highlights package on youtube called The Nat Fyfe show. There's about half a dozen goals of his on the left foot, a couple of them good enough to be GOTY contenders.

 

[Taylor]

Two thousand seven hundred and thirty five kicks has Nathan Fyfe

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Nathan Fyfe

Age

33

Ht

191cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.5

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

12.8

5star

M

4.5

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.6

5star

D

20.4

5star

K

8.6

3star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.0

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.2

5star

CL

2.0

4star

attempted, with a fifty six point eight percent success rate over his career.

1553 shanks. That's two whole seasons of 35 disposal games in which he hits zero targets and scored at least 105 dream team points.

Still won two Brownlows.

Reid making space through agility and taking the 15m kick for a "first down" each involvement will be more than enough to get him closely tagged. The guy averages mid twenties disposals, a 400m gained game is massive. Especially if we are dropping marks again.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Wallsy seems to think he will play forward, wing or even hbf.

One draft report I read said he played mostly half back in the under 16's so the year before he was drafted.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

One draft report I read said he played mostly half back in the under 16's so the year before he was drafted.

Wouldn't be a bad idea with his kicking and creativity if we can get him free to distribute.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Start as hf or hb with the ceiling being one of our best mids eventually.

 

[mightymouse75]

If his kicking and nous is anything like youngs we are in for quite a ride.

 

[gungho]

I don't expect any player to make much of a difference on a HFF in their first year or two, regardless of where they played as a junior. It's a hard position to play well and certainly a hard position to get a lot of stats.

My thought exactly. Somehow you don’t get shot down for them though.

 

[Joao]

My thought exactly. Somehow you don’t get shot down for them though.

Not sure about that, haven't followed the whole conversation.

To be fair, I don't expect much from any player in their first 2 seasons, even 3 or 4 depending on position. They are mostly their to learn and maybe contribute occasionally.

 

[Joao]

I'd like to add that he needs to adjust his tackling technique or he is going to get suspended a lot.

And he's not as good of a kick as Pendles, so he'll end up a fairly different player. The handballs though.

 

[Bigger]

Sweet hands.

 

[Big Flappy]

I enjoy watching his kicking. While not long seems to always be perfectly weighted, and draws the leading play into space. That final kick into 50 has been a weakness, hopefully he can help make a difference.

 

[Joao]

I enjoy watching his kicking. While not long seems to always be perfectly weighted, and draws the leading play into space. That final kick into 50 has been a weakness, hopefully he can help make a difference.

He kicks to a lead really well in general. Weighting is good. Minimal penetration though and has the Cerra like tendancy to kick a scrubber now and then. Does kick fairly flat (unlike say Henry).

Overall I would say it is definitely a strength and I suspect it gets better with a few years in the system.

What I hope he retains most is the willingness to bite off the 45s. Gets burnt a few times in his highlights but we lack blokes willing to try.

 

[Big Animal]

he looks good. But I'd be shocked if he gets a game in '25 given the guys already waiting in the wings. Good opportunity to just build up his strength and fitness in training and at Peel with minimal pressure.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

he looks good. But I'd be shocked if he gets a game in '25 given the guys already waiting in the wings. Good opportunity to just build up his strength and fitness in training and at Peel with minimal pressure.

Can't leave him down at Peel for too long though or he will be out of here. Need to give him a taste of the big time this season.

 

[Big Animal]

Can't leave him down at Peel for too long though or he will be out of here. Need to give him a taste of the big time this season.

first years don't typcially get a go in a premiership season

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

first years don't typcially get a go in a premiership season

True but if they are good enough they absolutely can. Joel Selwood went pretty well in 2007.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

I'd argue it's much easier for them to come into a really good side as one of the bottom 4 players if they are quality kids. Opposition will put no time into them and they can run around free with no pressure.

 

[freo_leo29]

I think he will be in by round 5 and won't leave the team tbh