Well known rifts or blues between players of same club.

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Phil Carmen v the rest of the Collingwood list. Carmen didn't fit in by his own admission and was was not liked. The players wouldn't kick to him yet he dominated at CHF. He'd train early and by the time the rest of the team, who had day jobs, got onto the track he'd reckon he done enough. Amazing talent but so wasted.
 
Brad Hardie and Mick Malthouse . i remember seeing Mick drag Hardie one day and Hardie pulled his jumper off his head and waved it up to the coaches box and tossed it on the ground . no love lost there :eek:
 

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Blues_Man said:
Brad Hardie and Mick Malthouse . i remember seeing Mick drag Hardie one day and Hardie pulled his jumper off his head and waved it up to the coaches box and tossed it on the ground . no love lost there :eek:

mick punched glen jakovich in the players race after a game once too.
 
SainterX1 said:
You may have the chronology a bit wrong there...

You're probably right..... I was at a meeting in the city with an Aboriginal organisation in 1988 and Winmar was there with Kelly looking for a job. One of the staff there told me what had happened between Winmar and the Cunninghams. I had no first hand knowledge. And remember, we are posting what we've heard, not what actually transpired. No one except the people involved would truly know.
 
Mick Malthouse & Scott Watters after '91 grand final. Malthouse blaming a player for playing poorly in a position he doesn't normally play. He has a bit of a history of this. Pies supporters will have noticed that Malthouse is never wrong...
 
rick James said:
mick punched glen jakovich in the players race after a game once too.

That's not entirely true... well it is but bit it isn't. Jakovich had to pull Mick away from someone giving him stick after the '91 grand final and he copped one in the process.
 
T Shaw thumped L Matthews and put him on his ars# in the change rooms while the team looked on toward the end of Matthews' time at the Pies. Matthews was apparently giving a few of the team a spray and T Shaw stepped forward and cracked him, vocalising apparently that the coaches' extra curricular activities were causing the club troubles more than the guys getting the spray.
 
greedo said:
T Shaw thumped L Matthews and put him on his ars# in the change rooms while the team looked on toward the end of Matthews' time at the Pies. Matthews was apparently giving a few of the team a spray and T Shaw stepped forward and cracked him, vocalising apparently that the coaches' extra curricular activities were causing the club troubles more than the guys getting the spray.
i find this one very dubious ..maybe he king hit him ? because even at his age now Mathews would have no trouble sitting tony shaw on his a/rse
 
Tony Shaw denied it and as far as I know no one has had the balls to ask Mathews about it. It was a strong rumour at the time though. Allegedly after Mathews questioned his commitment to a contest and the jumper. Whatever anyone thinks of Shaw his commitment is beyond question. Interestingly the same question put to Matty Ryan ended his career. If true Shaw went on to captain a premiership under Mathews after this incident.
 

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MarkT said:
Tony Shaw denied it and as far as I know no one has had the balls to ask Mathews about it. It was a strong rumour at the time though. Allegedly after Mathews questioned his commitment to a contest and the jumper. Whatever anyone thinks of Shaw his commitment is beyond question. Interestingly the same question put to Matty Ryan ended his career. If true Shaw went on to captain a premiership under Mathews after this incident.
I heard Shaw on the radio about this - apparently Lethal did question Shaw's commitment etc, and Shaw absolutely gave him both barrels.....at 3.00 one morning, over the phone, after about 1000 beers. Lethal was OK about it - showed the commitment he wanted sort of thing.
 
Powerstufff said:
Rumours persist that Cummings left after something like that, though I never heard a particular team-mate named before.
But I must say that a huge number of rumours about players leaving any club surprisingly seem to involve the "sh*gging a team-mates's wife" clause.
97.32% more likely to be true than the above. He was coach Jack Cahill's pet but his 1998 season was disgraceful. Jack was sacked at the end of '98, Chocco took over, Cummings got his marching orders.
Cummings suffered from second year blues badly.

Essendon year 1- Gun

Year 2 Pistol

Port Year 1 - GUN

Year 2 - water pistol

West Coast Year 1 - GUN

Year 2 PopGun

Collingwood

Year 1 thats it I;m done



On a Crows topic I have heard and its persistent is that Modra was dropped because of who he dropped on a coaches doorstep
 
jourgo said:
That's not entirely true... well it is but bit it isn't. Jakovich had to pull Mick away from someone giving him stick after the '91 grand final and he copped one in the process.

so it's true, i just didnt' mention WHY it happened.
 
Ford Fairlane said:
Yep. After the 1985 GF which the Bays won and was made memorable by Pammy running onto the oval to hug Gra-Gra, then running off to Melbourne with Antoine.

If memory serves me right , Gra-Gra pinched her off former Bay teammate Craig Marriott and now she's married to Gra-Gra's former Bay teammate Fred Phillis.
classic, she must have done the whole team...SLUUUUUUUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Ford Fairlane said:
Yep. After the 1985 GF which the Bays won and was made memorable by Pammy running onto the oval to hug Gra-Gra, then running off to Melbourne with Antoine.

If memory serves me right , Gra-Gra pinched her off former Bay teammate Craig Marriott and now she's married to Gra-Gra's former Bay teammate Fred Phillis.
Thanks.
 
Blues_Man said:
Brad Hardie and Mick Malthouse . i remember seeing Mick drag Hardie one day and Hardie pulled his jumper off his head and waved it up to the coaches box and tossed it on the ground . no love lost there :eek:
I was at that game. Hardie can thank Malthouse for his Brownlow. He came across as a half forward but Mick played him in defence where he chased kicks to his heart's content. In the last game for the year, Malthouse instructed the Footscray players to look for Hardie who was nominally in the back pocket but chased kicks all day.

Back to the topic.

Malthouse and Doug Hawkins had their moments, too. Malthouse was at Doug about his drinking. Once when injured, Doug stood below the elevated coaches Box in the outer at the Western Oval and slowly drank can after can all day, saluting Mick with the empties. Malthouse didn't hurt Doug's career either. He played him for 4 quarters on the outer wing. The wind always favoured that side of the ground so Doug saw plenty of action.


Otto
 
O Grobbecker said:
I was at that game. Hardie can thank Malthouse for his Brownlow. He came across as a half forward but Mick played him in defence where he chased kicks to his heart's content. In the last game for the year, Malthouse instructed the Footscray players to look for Hardie who was nominally in the back pocket but chased kicks all day.

Back to the topic.

Malthouse and Doug Hawkins had their moments, too. Malthouse was at Doug about his drinking. Once when injured, Doug stood below the elevated coaches Box in the outer at the Western Oval and slowly drank can after can all day, saluting Mick with the empties. Malthouse didn't hurt Doug's career either. He played him for 4 quarters on the outer wing. The wind always favoured that side of the ground so Doug saw plenty of action.


Otto

Yet they both disliked Mick?

PS
I didnt know Dougie drank!
 

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