Win Prizes Werewolf comes to General Discussion - Day Eight - SK wins

[myblueroan]

If there were only 3 werewolves then 13/15 is right.

Yup.
So my seers COULD both be villagers.
And if Jhye is our remaining VI, of course you'd want him gone!
Plus he really has it on for PIE.
So,
Again, Nothing,Pamcake, Jhye And fake,seer...can we please vote together and try for a night immune?

Maybe MP? Or if you want Pamcake, l'll go Quiv. Or we can still go with Dero?

 

[Pie 4 Life]

That’s a 100% chance of hitting night immune evil in that situation. You’re saying a 67% chance of hitting night immune evil is better than a 100% chance of hitting non night immune evil with 15 players left, which is fundamentally wrong.

Also there’s an exploding amulet out there somewhere which will be a further unknown.

There's never 100% chance while a doc is in play theoretically. There's always going to be a chance that it's incorrect even with a hit overnight. But taking me out in a lynch does nothing for the village's cause. Force evil to take me out tonight, we all know what I am, I'm gettable, so do it. Why waste it on me now when we can trim evil numbers?

 

[myblueroan]

For those playing at home while Chippy tries to say I'm nonsensical.

Ask yourself, why would he agree this morning that whoever the vig hit is the play, but now that a certain player is in the gun, he doesn't think that is the play?

Gow so we know who the VIG went for?

 

[Chipmunk]

For those playing at home while Chippy tries to say I'm nonsensical.

Ask yourself, why would he agree this morning that whoever the vig hit is the play, but now that a certain player is in the gun, he doesn't think that is the play?

Did the vig hit Jhye?

And I’ve literally made this argument the entire time I’ve been awake this phase. I voted for you before I went to sleep when it became clear this was going to be your argument.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Yup.
So my seers COULD both be villagers.
And if Jhye is our remaining VI, of course you'd want him gone!
Plus he really has it on for PIE.
So,
Again, Nothing,Pamcake, Jhye And fake,seer...can we please vote together and try for a night immune?

Maybe MP? Or if you want Pamcake, l'll go Quiv. Or we can still go with Dero?

We largely need to come to a consensus otherwise evil will make sure their heads are safe just FYI.7 evil vs 6 good vs 2 neutral I believe it is then?

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Gow so we know who the VIG went for?

The vig hasn't said, obviously that would be the best case. But if it was Jhye, then we're wasting revealing our vig for no reason. Evil likely know who the vig is. But without that, we have to go most likely.

 

[Chipmunk]

There's never 100% chance while a doc is in play theoretically. There's always going to be a chance that it's incorrect even with a hit overnight. But taking me out in a lynch does nothing for the village's cause. Force evil to take me out tonight, we all know what I am, I'm gettable, so do it. Why waste it on me now when we can trim evil numbers?

So Your argument is you think the doc may have protected Jhye last night. There’s also the amulet of course.

I’d rather go for the known evil in you. With the numbers evil has a high chance of turning on each other tonight.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Did the vig hit Jhye?

And I’ve literally made this argument the entire time I’ve been awake this phase. I voted for you before I went to sleep when it became clear this was going to be your argument.

You could have hit me last night and you chose not, that shouldn't be on the village. You'll get another chance tonight. It's going to be one of Jhye, Pamcakes or MP_ and I'm far more confident in it being in that order.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

So Your argument is you think the doc may have protected Jhye last night. There’s also the amulet of course.

I’d rather go for the known evil in you. With the numbers evil has a high chance of turning on each other tonight.

I'm disputing your argument of saying 100% for overnight hit. I doubt the doc would bother protecting Jhye who claimed villager yesterday. The facts are, we know two "villagers" and given there are more night immune "villagers" than actual villagers, odds are in that favour.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

I know Jhye will come on say it's all crap and he's a villager I'm trying to escape the lynch etc. but at the end of the day, even as a new player, why do evil's dirty work during the day when you can give them a hit during the lynch instead?

 

[Nothing]

Yup.
So my seers COULD both be villagers.
And if Jhye is our remaining VI, of course you'd want him gone!
Plus he really has it on for PIE.
So,
Again, Nothing,Pamcake, Jhye And fake,seer...can we please vote together and try for a night immune?

Maybe MP? Or if you want Pamcake, l'll go Quiv. Or we can still go with Dero?

I'm not sure. I was comfortable with CM86 as a nothing (get it) vote. I'm happy to go a consensus vote but don't ask me who.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Feel like this is WWE or something. Finished with SSwans yesterday, now Chippy's here and no doubt he'll tag in Jhye soon.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

As an aside, hopefully the new players are enjoying this, as you can see how the game builds up from perhaps a little slow day one and two to ramping right up by day four.

 

[myblueroan]

As an aside, hopefully the new players are enjoying this, as you can see how the game builds up from perhaps a little slow day one and two to ramping right up by day four.

We don't have any evidence for Jhye.
Let's find someone we all agree on.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

We don't have any evidence for Jhye.
Let's find someone we all agree on.

We've got more evidence on Jhye than anyone else for night immune though. He and Pamcakes are the two most likely night immune just due to numbers. Sure basically everyone has a role and we just need to avoid the doc, vig and seers, but night immune is the best way. Evil don't want the SK having a kill that could take them down as it balances the playing field.

Unless the vig says "I hit this person last night", statistically one of Jhye or Pamcakes is the most likely to be night immune.

 

[Chipmunk]

I know Jhye will come on say it's all crap and he's a villager I'm trying to escape the lynch etc. but at the end of the day, even as a new player, why do evil's dirty work during the day when you can give them a hit during the lynch instead?

Because it’s not evil’s dirty work, we need to kill you to win as well.

I’m happy with you defending yourself. What I’m not happy with is you’re perpetuating the fantasy that neutral is a support to good. The sheer volume of your posts shows you are trying to swamp your argument - classic covering when you know you’re wrong.

We’ve both put our sides of it, as with my point yesterday ‘let’s let the newbies decide’.

 

[DinoSoar]

Jhye for my vote Gralin

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

Can someone catch me up? I missed 6 pages here

 

[Chipmunk]

We've got more evidence on Jhye than anyone else for night immune though. He and Pamcakes are the two most likely night immune just due to numbers. Sure basically everyone has a role and we just need to avoid the doc, vig and seers, but night immune is the best way. Evil don't want the SK having a kill that could take them down as it balances the playing field.

Unless the vig says "I hit this person last night", statistically one of Jhye or Pamcakes is the most likely to be night immune.

The SK still has a kill when you die and removing your faction is GOOD for the village as it’s means that evil trains their sights on each other.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Can someone catch me up? I missed 6 pages here

A cat is wrestling a squirrel.

 

[TheInjuryFactory]

A cat is wrestling a squirrel.

Ahh so just the usual.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

The SK still has a kill when you die and removing your faction is GOOD for the village as it’s means that evil trains their sights on each other.

Thanks for confirming that regardless of tonight we'll still have a kill. So therefore if I am killed today or tonight it won't matter as the SK cannot be killed tonight. If I'm killed tonight and the SK is lynched tomorrow, the same result ensues.

 

[myblueroan]

We've got more evidence on Jhye than anyone else for night immune though. He and Pamcakes are the two most likely night immune just due to numbers. Sure basically everyone has a role and we just need to avoid the doc, vig and seers, but night immune is the best way. Evil don't want the SK having a kill that could take them down as it balances the playing field.

Unless the vig says "I hit this person last night", statistically one of Jhye or Pamcakes is the most likely to be night immune.

That theory has been proven false!
The silent ones are much more likely.
This happened last nite and everyone jumped on RU
I don't want more villagers killed.

 

[Chipmunk]

Thanks for confirming that regardless of tonight we'll still have a kill. So therefore if I am killed today or tonight it won't matter as the SK cannot be killed tonight. If I'm killed tonight and the SK is lynched tomorrow, the same result ensues.

‘Dont lynch me because I can die later even though it’s a higher chance of a village win if I die now’

 

[Pie 4 Life]

That theory has been proven false!
The silent ones are much more likely.
This happened last nite and everyone jumped on RU
I don't want more villagers killed.

What's been proven false? Are you saying you think that out of all the players you could have seered (15 left) you just happened to pick the two villagers? That's incredibly unlikely. If we're voting for anyone else as night immune it's a stab in the dark.