West Coast Eagles Priority Pick (2024)

[ghostbat12]

North offered you their picks #2 & #3 and something else for #1, you could have had three quality draftees for the price of one but no, you took the #1.

Firstly, that wasn’t the offer as shown by a number of IDKs. Nowhere near it.

Secondly, we offer this years first to multiple clubs last year, even if a net loss to us. Like gws. Pick 1 for gws pick…convenient to overlook that.

So you can’t get quality draftees is no one is willing to trade. Not only that, but our own picks later got pushed out. So you can’t improve if your picks keeps sliding. How do you get ahead if priority is to send better players to better clubs via academies?

 

[LordLucifer]

No, they didn't even offer #2 in a trade to begin with, let alone 2 & 3.

WCE said they'd accept 2 & 3(reportedly) and North said no thanks.

Really ........... ????

The Kangaroos offered West Coast their Pick 2, as well as two of their later first-round picks — they hold Picks 15, 17 and 18 — in exchange for Picks 1 and 23 from the Eagles.

From the same article :

The Demons, who traded up in the order during this month’s AFL exchange period, also offered the Eagles their two first-round selections (Picks 6 and 11), as well as Pick 42 and their future first-rounder in exchange for Pick 1.

So two clubs offered three picks as a trade which included two first rounders yet the Eagles knocked them both back.

Now, 12-months down the track they are expecting a AFL handout.

Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too even though I'll say it once again ........... GET RID OF ALL PRIORITY PICKS & ALL BAIL-OUT ASSISTANCE FOREVER !!!

Explained: Why Eagles are holding firm on Pick 1… and what it might take to persuade them

Explained: Why Eagles are holding firm on Pick 1… and what it’ll take to persuade them

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[bzparkes]

Really ........... ????



From the same article :




So two clubs offered three picks as a trade which included two first rounders yet the Eagles knocked them both back.

Now, 12-months down the track they are expecting a AFL handout.

Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too even though I'll say it once again ........... GET RID OF ALL PRIORITY PICKS & ALL BAIL-OUT ASSISTANCE FOREVER !!!

Explained: Why Eagles are holding firm on Pick 1… and what it might take to persuade them

Explained: Why Eagles are holding firm on Pick 1… and what it’ll take to persuade them

www.foxsports.com.au

You said 2 & 3 + other picks, which is wrong.

Also, I'd be entirely happy to get rid of PPs, the second the AFL gets rid of academy and father son picks in the same draft.

 

[ghostbat12]

Really ........... ????



From the same article :




So two clubs offered three picks as a trade which included two first rounders yet the Eagles knocked them both back.

Now, 12-months down the track they are expecting a AFL handout.

Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too even though I'll say it once again ........... GET RID OF ALL PRIORITY PICKS & ALL BAIL-OUT ASSISTANCE FOREVER !!!

Explained: Why Eagles are holding firm on Pick 1… and what it might take to persuade them

Explained: Why Eagles are holding firm on Pick 1… and what it’ll take to persuade them

www.foxsports.com.au

We offered this years first, to try and get Curtin and everyone said no.

We also split the picks the year before.

We had additional picks from trades year before.

So we tried and that’s the case against your uninformed accusation.

In addition, AFl, by giving picks to a club that finished ABOVE US, it pushed our own picks back. Those picks you talk about, the late teens that we could have had, ended up being pushed back by 5-10 picks or so.

In addition, going back to Melbourne. We are a better team with Reid than Windsor +tholstrup. Even if it was curtin over Windsor.

Reid is our best player already.

So calm down and assess everything. Just because you are blinded, doesn’t mean everyone will be.

So we can get a few priority picks so that we rebuild faster or watch us accumulate plethora of no.1 and/or top 5 picks for next 5 years. Priority picks = lower picks in future and club rebuilds faster. Everyone wins.

 

[ghostbat12]

What I don’t like is north approach where they accumulate very high draft picks and then a package comes as all those players cannot lift the club for 3-4 years as they are developing.

AFL needs to give priority picks early and many. Leaving it to say next year only makes WC stronger in longer term on field.

 

[chaddy22]

Really ........... ????



From the same article :




So two clubs offered three picks as a trade which included two first rounders yet the Eagles knocked them both back.

Now, 12-months down the track they are expecting a AFL handout.

Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too even though I'll say it once again ........... GET RID OF ALL PRIORITY PICKS & ALL BAIL-OUT ASSISTANCE FOREVER !!!

Explained: Why Eagles are holding firm on Pick 1… and what it might take to persuade them

Explained: Why Eagles are holding firm on Pick 1… and what it’ll take to persuade them

www.foxsports.com.au

You conveniently overlooked the original offer

North Melbourne put four picks on the table to trade for West Coast’s pick 1. 15, 18, 21 & an end of first rounder next year. North among clubs eyeing Gold Coast’s pick 18 if they keep trading back.Eagles aren’t accepting that deal but you suspect more Roos offers are coming as revealed by Cal Twomey
10:05 AM · Oct 11, 2023
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North"s best offer did not offer three picks for Harley it was three picks with 1 &23 going back the other way.
So in fact it was only two picks for Harley Reid

!5 years ago three first rounders would have been worth it but North's two late first rounders would have ended in the mid twenties and the eagles really needed quality and why they asked for two and three as it was the least compromised deal for the eagles.

 

[Freomaniac]

I personally don’t care. Given amount of silverware, we are a robust bunch and if you are going to be bad, you may as well finish last. Would be nice to be more competitive but a few wins doesn’t make a season.

Only freo fans fear being labelled worst team in Australia. Even when people pick at eagles, it’s really deep fear and knowledge that really we can and will rise from ashes.

Yes I am scared of the eagles, I am terrified, especially since round 1 of 2022.

You might rise from the ashes again. But it wont be like those quick and short rebuilds like 2000-2001, 2008-10 and 2013-4.

eagles longest period of no finals is 3 years in a row in 2008-10. Eagles current streak is 3 years now.

Eagles havent made finals since 2020. Eagles finished 9th in 2021, bottom 2 in 2022 and bottom in 2023.

Again, eagles current streak is 3 years. It will be 4 years on current 2024 form.


I dont dislike west coast. I dislike their delusional fans that think things can turn around very quickly.

 

[Lingsface]

What’s the most wooden spoons in a row?

 

[Freomaniac]

The draft isn't working.

In 2008 we finished second last and got an end of first round compo pick. We pick 2, 20, and 22.

22 being the effective PP.

We didn't have to trade or split picks for that.

Last year we were materially worse and ended up with pick 1 and 30.

The draft pool has been diluted by FA compo, PP, academy selections and isn't an avenue for a rebuild any more.

now you talk about the draft pool being diluted...

FA compo? you might have a point.

Priority picks? well depends which struggling side gets it, its usually one, occasionally 2 sides that get in a normal season.

Academy selections? well the non wa clubs are not taking WAFL talent with that pick either.

 

[theiaofseed]

What’s the most wooden spoons in a row?

Saints once won 6 in a row. The Saints won 4 in row 1983-86 and again in 88.

Sydney run 3 in a row 1992-94 which was the last time a club won more than b2b spoons.

 

[Freomaniac]

Brisbane hasn’t given up anything to continue contending. You guys gave up the farm for Kelly.

How are you currently in the worse position than Norf last year?

But freo gave the farm for guys like Jesse Hogan and Luke Jackson!

Where are the dockers priority picks? lol

 

[NeutralFan]

Can we fix up F/S and Academies so West Coast's first pick of the second round isn't 30(!)

Priority Picks and Free Agency compensation are still ridiculous.

 

[Freomaniac]

There should be no priority pick for just sucking. West Cost won a flag just over 5 years ago. There are only 4 other clubs that have won a flag more recently than West Coast - how is this anywhere near bad enough to justify any kind of assistance? Let's look at my club, the Crows, by comparison. We haven't even made finals since 2017 (and don't look remotely close to doing it this year), let alone won a flag which we last managed in 1998. We collected a wooden spoon in 2020, just 3 years before West Coast. If there are going to be priority picks handed out to anyone (which there shouldn't be), I'd argue we're more deserving than West Coast.

Both clubs got themselves into this state, and should be responsible for getting themselves out of it. Both still sticking with coaches who have presided over this period of sucking (in fairness to Nicks, the Crows already sucked when he got there - Simpson has presided over the fall from flag to spoon). Surely cleaning out your coaching and list management departments should be a prerequisite prior to even asking for any assistance? If not, why should anyone expect that the assistance wouldn't just get squandered anyway?

Good thread and while we are at it....

Lets go look at the Eagles years from where the first started in 1987.

1987: no finals

1988: finals

1989 no finals

1990-99: finals every year in the 1990s. 3 grand finals and 2 flags between 1991-1994. Flags in 1992 and 1994.

2000-2001: no finals


2002-07: Finals. Made grand finals in 2005-6 and getting a flag in 2006.

2008-10: no finals

2011-12: finals


2015-20: finals in each year. grand final in 2015 and flag in 2018

2021-23 no finals.


not too bad when you think about it. Rarely have they spent more than 3 years outside of finals. Yet other sides have spent 4 or 5 or 6 years in a row not making finals.




Fancy that Also... fremantle dockers between 1995-2023 have made finals 8 times in 29 years.

 

[the harry]

Academy selections? well the non wa clubs are not taking WAFL talent with that pick either.

I'm not sure I get this bit? Yes academies are typically localised, but they still take players out of the draft pool and particular clubs pay cents on the dollar.

It's unfortunate timing when the highest bid academy player was a Eagles supporting Perth native.

 

[Freomaniac]

I'm not sure I get this bit? Yes academies are typically localised, but they still take players out of the draft pool and particular clubs pay cents on the dollar.

It's unfortunate timing when the highest bid academy player was a Eagles supporting Perth native.

You don't get that bit.

I agree teams in the bottom 6 do struggle to rebuild. But it doesn't hurt to get creative.

Eagles in 2013 finished in the bottom 6. Traded their 1st and 3rd which was picks 6 and 43 to Collingwood.

Eagles got Collingwoods mid 1st, mid 2nd and mid 3rd rounder. That was pick 11 (Dom Sheed) pick 31 ( Malcolm Karpany) and pick 49 ( I forgot who it was but he didn't play a game for west coast).

The main issues why west coast 2nd rounder will be pushed back will be father son picks and free agent compo picks.

I have no issues with Brisbane using a pick on a local academy pick, even if that kid is projected at pick 20.

Also another random question... Do the eagles have a mid season pick?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Would an option be for the Eagles to be offered a priority pick - to dig themselves out of a hole - however, the next time they qualify for the 8, they essentially pay for it by losing their first or second pick that year?

They pretty much did that to us last year

 

[Crankyhawk]

I'm guessing those saying we shouldn't get a PP would be entirely happy to give up access to their father sons/academy picks then?

Happy to restrict f/s and academies to second round and later only (ie can’t match if taken as a clubs 1st rounder), preserves value of picks 1-18; and have nga move to this instead of top 40 can’t match.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Poster is correct- you are a hypocrite. You want f/s which gives advantage to basically Victorian teams, one of which is your team. That in itself is a "priority pick"

Though why are wce not getting father/sons? You’ve been in the comp long enough for them to be popping up

 

[Crankyhawk]

You do realise they were offered diabolical trade offers for it and don't do the pick index points value every bloke around knows it's horribly overvalued for mid tier picks. The main offer was 18,18, 19 for 1 basically, these picks became mid to late 20's on draft night...no club in their right mid is doing that deal. The Melbourne deal was worse so forget that. Don't think North ever packaged up an offer that included pick 2 or 3. If they did with their f1 it would have been considered.

There's an old saying quantity does not equal quality, 3 average to below average players is not better than one sure thing and Reid was the surest thing to come out of the draft in a decade.

I thought hawks offered our first and a future first with something coming back but will need to fact check

 

[ghostbat12]

Yes I am scared of the eagles, I am terrified, especially since round 1 of 2022.

You might rise from the ashes again. But it wont be like those quick and short rebuilds like 2000-2001, 2008-10 and 2013-4.

eagles longest period of no finals is 3 years in a row in 2008-10. Eagles current streak is 3 years now.

Eagles havent made finals since 2020. Eagles finished 9th in 2021, bottom 2 in 2022 and bottom in 2023.

Again, eagles current streak is 3 years. It will be 4 years on current 2024 form.


I dont dislike west coast. I dislike their delusional fans that think things can turn around very quickly.

Hearing all this (apart from last 2 sentences) from dockers fans since 1995.

We are declining, never be able to rebuild, future is the dockers etc etc

 

[Freomaniac]

Hearing all this (apart from last 2 sentences) from dockers fans since 1995.

We are declining, never be able to rebuild, future is the dockers etc etc

Yeah well eagles posters have sunk the boots on my team in the dockers 2016-21 rebuild.

Just ask your fellow eagles mates about it

 

[RonnieRaven]

Good thread and while we are at it....

Lets go look at the Eagles years from where the first started in 1987.

1987: no finals

1988: finals

1989 no finals

1990-99: finals every year in the 1990s. 3 grand finals and 2 flags between 1991-1994. Flags in 1992 and 1994.

2000-2001: no finals


2002-07: Finals. Made grand finals in 2005-6 and getting a flag in 2006.

2008-10: no finals

2011-12: finals


2015-20: finals in each year. grand final in 2015 and flag in 2018

2021-23 no finals.


not too bad when you think about it. Rarely have they spent more than 3 years outside of finals. Yet other sides have spent 4 or 5 or 6 years in a row not making finals.




Fancy that Also... fremantle dockers between 1995-2023 have made finals 8 times in 29 years.

The squeaky wheel gets the oil
Eagles are pathetic

 

[Freomaniac]

And how was North's not self-inflicted?

Also, second round pick for the wooden spooners being 30 was AFL-inflicted.

No one complained when North Melbourne topped up with experienced players from 2014-16 when they made finals.

They dropped to bottom 4 in 15th with 6 wins and 16 losses. Mind you they lost a few close games by under 2 goals and a couple of them were at the hands of the dockers.

2018, finished with 12 wins and 10 losses and 9th spot.

2019 another disappointed season.

It was 2020 when North Melbourne fell off badly.

 

[Freomaniac]

The squeaky wheel gets the oil
Eagles are pathetic

They had a good run in many periods. 1990-9 was good.

2002-07 was good. I am still shocked they got 8th in 2002, limping into 9th with 11 wins. You won't make finals with 11 wins with a 23 or 24 game season with 18 or 19 or 20 sides.

Their 2015-20 finals run was good too.

As I said.... 18 team comp. 8 sides make finals, 10 don't. So less than 50 percent chance.

It's going to be common for teams to go through 5 or 6 or even 7 years in a row not making finals.

 

[IHurley]

Actually would support Eagles getting a PP. I think every club who hasn't played in a Prelim in the last 5 years should get one!

..in alphabetical order.

Bombers haven't played a prelim in 20 years. We should get 4 PP.