At this stage, no mid season selection, we filled our list.
Currently have 3 longer term injuries, 8+ weeks at the time of surgery, but 2 expected back slightly before or at mid year and one expected back in the back third.
West Coast Eagles Priority Pick (2024)
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At this stage, no mid season selection, we filled our list.
Currently have 3 longer term injuries, 8+ weeks at the time of surgery, but 2 expected back slightly before or at mid year and one expected back in the back third.
LukeParkerno1
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Something like that it’s only been a good offer after how bad Hawthorn have been this year not sure that would have been expected. I expected you guys to improve not go back you’ve just had injuries and a lot of them
Elixuh
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Unfortunately Mr Maniac we have, as a league, accepted Freo's mediocrity. I don't like to say it, but its true.
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And your point? Some old players might be past their prime and use by date.
But it might be worth to keep them for another year while the kids developed.
I look back at freos 2016-21 rebuild.... Yep, some of those blokes that played well in that 2012-15 finals period, were kept one season too many.
I am thinking of of certain old dudes we had that retired in 2016-19 like Lee Spurr, Zac Dawson, Sandilands and Hayden Ballantyne to name a few
Eagles need a Free Agent to ask to leave. Doesn't matter who. AFL will 'compensate' them with pick 2 and we can all melt in outrage again. AFL have made such a pigs dinner of the draft I don't think anyone cares anymore how shit it is. We just seem to accept it.
Everyone’s getting hysterical but eagles themselves haven’t even asked for a priority pick and I doubt they would anyway. It’s the journalists bringing it up and wanting us to get it.
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Eagles have a few winnable games this year. Play North and Hawthorn at home. I'm not even convinced they will finish bottom
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No they didn't.
There is no way West Coast deserve a priority pick. They won the flag in 2018, 6 years ago. They won two premierships and played off in 4 grand finals since the last time we even won a final or finished above 7th and they get the priority pick because they ignored the future after the flag?
They took the chance to continue challenging and it failed. It's one thing to give priority picks to sides like Gold Coast and North who haven't seen success in a long time or ever, but not West Coast. They need do the hard yards.
They took the chance to continue challenging and it failed. It's one thing to give priority picks to sides like Gold Coast and North who haven't seen success in a long time or ever, but not West Coast. They need do the hard yards.
Elixuh
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Essendon's problem is the club tells the comp every year that this is their year and the flag is theirs, and 20 odd years in, no one cares anymore. A side like WCE, a big wealthy club, is important to the comp so should be given assistance.
What a ridiculous post.
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It's certainly not looking great, but at the same time, the way teams rebuild now is different to previous eras. Free agency means you can plug some pretty important gaps pretty quickly. I'm certainly not expecting a quick turnaround, but if our drafting to now proves canny (i.e. the kids come on well) and the Eagles splash the cash to get some very good players into some very important positions, you never know how things can turn. I wouldn't be writing off any team from a quick turnaround anymore than I would be assuming the turnaround will be quick.
Well journalists and 20 or so WC posters in here very keen to jump on the gravy train alongside teams they have spent years ridiculing and treating like they don’t belong in the same competition as the mighty eagles
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We probably would have been expected to be 11th to 15th without the injuries (game inconsistency would still have been an issue, and I think the new forwards have also exceeded expectations - its the established players + midfield that are stinking it up)
A whole 20! And BigFooty.com posters no less!
The way to fix this issue is to permanently get rid of priority picks and all other draft assistance for good.
However, to balance that out, the AFL must introduce a 'Equalisation Round' in the draft prior to Round 1.
All 10 teams who did not play finals get an extra draft pick in reverse ladder order that they can use or trade.
Equalisation Round
Pick 1 - 18th
Pick 2 - 17th
Pick 3 - 16th
Pick 4 - 15th
Pick 5 - 14th
Pick 6 - 13th
Pick 7 - 12th
Pick 8 - 11th
Pick 9 - 10th
Pick 10 - 9th
Round 1.
Pick 11 - 18th
Pick 12 - 17th
Pick 13 - 16th
Pick 14 - 15th
Pick 15 - 14th
Pick 16 - 13th
Pick 17 - 12th
Pick 18 - 11th
Pick 19 - 10th
Pick 20 - 9th
Pick 21 - 8th
Pick 22 - 7th
Pick 23 - 6th
Pick 24 - 5th
Pick 25 - 4th
Pick 26 - 3rd
Pick 27 - 2nd
Pick 28 - 1st
Round 2.
Pick 29 - 18th
Pick 30 - 17th
Pick 31 - 16th
Pick 32 - 15th
Pick 33 - 14th
Pick 34 - 13th
Pick 35 - 12th
Pick 36 - 11th
Pick 37 - 10th
Pick 38 - 9th
Pick 39 - 8th
Pick 40 - 7th
Pick 41 - 6th
Pick 42 - 5th
Pick 43 - 4th
Pick 44 - 3rd
Pick 45 - 2nd
Pick 46 - 1st
Round 3.
same process
Round 4.
same process
Round 5.
same process
Added to that, the points index values for the Equalisation Round picks are made much higher in the past so that teams who want to match bids have to give up more than a few token late picks like in the past etc.
This system removes all conjecture over who qualifies for a PP and how & when, its all out in front of everyone (i.e. transparent).
In this scenario, WCE would receive #1, #11 & #29 which is a good starting point from where they can rebuild their list. Based on current form, they would probably get similiar picks next year which if used correctly, would give them six quality players from the draft over the two years.
People will whinge on about how "their team" will get penalised by this system but what they are not taking into account is that their list is far more developed than the cellar dwellers given they have just played finals.
If they need to make some moves, then they have to trade out some talent to one of the cellar dwellers thus adding to the equalising nature of this plan.
It would take 2-3 seasons for everyone to see the true benefits of this system but it is a total no-brainer IMO.
However, to balance that out, the AFL must introduce a 'Equalisation Round' in the draft prior to Round 1.
All 10 teams who did not play finals get an extra draft pick in reverse ladder order that they can use or trade.
Equalisation Round
Pick 1 - 18th
Pick 2 - 17th
Pick 3 - 16th
Pick 4 - 15th
Pick 5 - 14th
Pick 6 - 13th
Pick 7 - 12th
Pick 8 - 11th
Pick 9 - 10th
Pick 10 - 9th
Round 1.
Pick 11 - 18th
Pick 12 - 17th
Pick 13 - 16th
Pick 14 - 15th
Pick 15 - 14th
Pick 16 - 13th
Pick 17 - 12th
Pick 18 - 11th
Pick 19 - 10th
Pick 20 - 9th
Pick 21 - 8th
Pick 22 - 7th
Pick 23 - 6th
Pick 24 - 5th
Pick 25 - 4th
Pick 26 - 3rd
Pick 27 - 2nd
Pick 28 - 1st
Round 2.
Pick 29 - 18th
Pick 30 - 17th
Pick 31 - 16th
Pick 32 - 15th
Pick 33 - 14th
Pick 34 - 13th
Pick 35 - 12th
Pick 36 - 11th
Pick 37 - 10th
Pick 38 - 9th
Pick 39 - 8th
Pick 40 - 7th
Pick 41 - 6th
Pick 42 - 5th
Pick 43 - 4th
Pick 44 - 3rd
Pick 45 - 2nd
Pick 46 - 1st
Round 3.
same process
Round 4.
same process
Round 5.
same process
Added to that, the points index values for the Equalisation Round picks are made much higher in the past so that teams who want to match bids have to give up more than a few token late picks like in the past etc.
This system removes all conjecture over who qualifies for a PP and how & when, its all out in front of everyone (i.e. transparent).
In this scenario, WCE would receive #1, #11 & #29 which is a good starting point from where they can rebuild their list. Based on current form, they would probably get similiar picks next year which if used correctly, would give them six quality players from the draft over the two years.
People will whinge on about how "their team" will get penalised by this system but what they are not taking into account is that their list is far more developed than the cellar dwellers given they have just played finals.
If they need to make some moves, then they have to trade out some talent to one of the cellar dwellers thus adding to the equalising nature of this plan.
It would take 2-3 seasons for everyone to see the true benefits of this system but it is a total no-brainer IMO.
Crankyhawk
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of course you will get those who argue "equalisation round should be about how long it has been since team was in finals, not just ladder position"
This seems fair, at first glance. The smart thing would be to bring this in after the Tasmania draft, which will be naturally compromised.
Of course, being the AFL, it won't happen. They love their secret spices and reasons.
I like this idea but I would attach the early picks in a snake draft (1 & 20, 2 & 19, 3 & 18, 4 & 17, 5 & 16, 6 & 15, 7 & 14, 8 & 13, 9 & 12, 10 & 11) and also have a lottery for the pick pairs.
This system would allow for the reduction or elimination of free agency compensation.
Ah now we know what all of your BS js about. They hurt you and now you want to hurt them back. Nothing about actual case for priority picks.
PS, it’s the 2016 to 2023 rebuild. You think you were experiencing some sort of success over last 2 years?
I agree with you.Too early in the season to completely write us off. Media and other teams supporters piling on about how we will get a priority pick so early in the season.
Things can turn quickly. At the moment we have been beaten by teams who will be contending either for finals or the flag and they should be beating us comfortably or questions should be asked.
As you have said there are winnable games believe it or not for the Eagles. Eagles need a good run with injuries.
At the moment availability is good that is why Gaff was dropped.
I think people should hold off till we play lesser teams. We do have some troops comimg back in the next several weeks who can make a difference. Sheed and Culley playing Wafl this week and Liam Ryan the following week .Once Flynn and Oscar Allen become available it will hopefully give the team some targets in the forward line with Bailey Williams Playing forward/ruck.
This is fine in theory if we don't get another injury crisis.
Thing is, if you spend 2-3 years out of the finals you get more access to the pointy end of the draft. Once you make finals your list needs will have changed anyway.
If you keep givng equalisation handouts to teams that actually play finals then you are defeating the purpose of what it is all about and just opening up pandoras box once again (e.g. "why did they get draft assistance, they just played finals").
Agree wholeheartedly and its the main reason why I am such a strong advocate for this strategy.
Most people get really hacked off with the haphazard manner in which help gets handed out. In fact some cynics would suggest that it is one step away from match fixing.
Crankyhawk
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Oh not disputing your premise, I can imagine though someone whose team kept finishing 9th, seeing another team who had played consistent finals/ won flags then have a shit year, end up on the bottom, scores equalisation pick 1 as well as pick 11 while the multiple 9th team has had pick 10 and then 20
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