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Even at WAFL level Culley’s lack of speed is so evident. Centre bounce his opponent puts 3 metres on him instantly.

He might be a forward, or a forward that occasionally pinch hits a couple of times per game in the middle, but he’s not a mid.
People still rate him on here but i unfortunately think he is always going to be an extremely limited player. Some want him playing AFL next week which is crazy.
 

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In brighter news. I think clay hall may have done enough to hopefully gets call up. 3rd highest possession getter would have liked him to hit 20. That's not looking at his ball use
 
Very, very poor. East Perth rested their two best players and we still got belted. Could easily have been worse.

Harley Sparks put our AFL listed mids to absolute shame in the middle.


EAST PERTH 18.7 115 def. WEST COAST 6.5 41

From best to worst, but not really...

Harry Edwards - 15 disposals, 6 marks
Dominated down back. The only reason we didn't get done by 120 plus.

Tyrell Dewar - 15 disposals, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 5 i50s, 1.3
Our most dangerous player up the ground. Mixed some magic with the quite dumb to possibly play himself out of an AFL berth.

Andrew Gaff - 21 disposals, 6 marks, 2 tackles, 1 i50
No real impact on the game. 1 inside 50 remains unacceptable for a player of his experience playing at that level.

Jai Culley - 13 disposals, 1 mark, 3 tackles, 2 i50s, 1.0
A nice mark and goal early. Still building fitness around the ball. Looked a bit cumbersome, don't think he's ready.

Clay Hall - 17 disposals, 2 tackles
16 handballs says it all. Needs to get more ball on the outside as he actually has some zip and pace. Not ready.

Archer Reid - 6 disposals, 2 marks, 7 HOs, 3 i50s
A bit odd to put a 6 touch game this high, but he looks the part. Can we send him on loan? He's really going to struggle in this system. Has a lovely kick on him, can pick out a pass.

Jamaine Jones - 14 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 i50
No real impact off half back. Gave away some free kicks. Looks a likely delisting at this stage.

Coen Livingstone - 10 disposals, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 16 HOs, 1 i50
A decent effort in the ruck but looks pretty lumbering to me. A lot of development ahead.

Coby Burgiel - 12 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 i50
Another subpar effort. Needs to work harder and demand the ball. Losing enthusiasm with him a little. Lazy disposals.

Loch Rawlinson - 5 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 i50
Surprised he's made his debut before Dewar. Was invisible for the most part.

Jordyn Baker - 9 disposals, 1 mark
Pretty easy delisting, I'd have thought.
 
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Pathetic. East Perth rested their two best players are we still got belted. Could easily have been worse.

Harley Sparks put our AFL listed mids to absolute shame in the middle.

EAST PERTH 18.7 115 def. WEST COAST 6.5 41

From best to worst, but not really...

Harry Edwards - 15 disposals, 6 marks
Dominated down back. The only reason we didn't get done by 120 plus.

Tyrell Dewar - 15 disposals, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 5 i50s, 1.3
Our most dangerous player up the ground. Mixed some magic with the quite dumb to probably play himself out of an AFL berth.

Andrew Gaff - 21 disposals, 6 marks, 2 tackles, 1 i50
No impact on the game. 1 inside 50 remains unacceptable for a player of his experience playing at that level.

Jai Culley - 13 disposals, 1 mark, 3 tackles, 2 i50s, 1.0
A nice mark and goal early. Still building fitness around the ball. Looked a bit cumbersome, don't think he's ready.

Clay Hall - 17 disposals, 2 tackles
16 handballs says it all. Needs to get more ball on the outside as he actually has some zip and pace. Not ready.

Archer Reid - 6 disposals, 2 marks, 7 HOs, 3 i50s
A bit odd to put a 6 touch game this high, but he looks the part. Can we send him on loan? He's really going to struggle in this system. Has a lovely kick on him, can pick out a pass.

Jamaine Jones - 14 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 i50
No real impact off half back. Gave away some free kicks. Looks a likely delisting at this stage.

Coen Livingstone - 10 disposals, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 16 HOs, 1 i50
A decent effort in the ruck but looks pretty lumbering to me. A lot of development ahead.

Coby Burgiel - 12 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 i50
Another subpar effort. Needs to work harder and demand the ball. Losing enthusiasm with him a little. Lazy disposals.

Loch Rawlinson - 5 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 i50
Surprised he's made his debut before Dewar. Was invisible for the most part.

Jordyn Baker - 9 disposals, 1 mark
Pretty easy delisting, I'd have thought.
Curious to see who you think we are going to replace all our injured/out of form players with next week if no one is ready or is shit?
 
Feels like we’ve got one foot out the door of the WAFL. There’s just no level of enthusiasm or investment.

It felt like the problem over the last couple of years was the lack of senior players available, but this year we’re putting out a team of half AFL-listed players and half top-ups and still getting our pants well and truly pulled down.
 
The rules are not there too stifle the Eagles but to try to keep the integrity of the comp.
Peel and West Coast only have 70 points and traditional wafl clubs have 90,100 0r 110 depending on how they have been performing. West coast have 3o players on their beagles list whereas Peel and all other clubs have to have a minimum 55 players which are one point for a local zone player and more if they are a recruit from another tier two league.
Remember Peel and Wafl clubs do have to run a Wafl league and reserves sides.
I would say the Beagles have not reached their 70 points limit.

Apart from poaching top players from wafl clubs the Beagles can recruit nearly anybody. .
They can recruit Eagles delisted players with little restriction except for a transfer fee to their original club.

They can recruit interstate players like all wafl teams do from vfl, sanfl or any delisted afl players. and their points value is determined by wafl rules that are the same for all wafl teams. two players in this group are Trey Ruscoe and Gilbee.

They can recruit any ex wafl listed player. Harley Sparks who played about twenty games for East Perth played country footy last year.

They can recruit from the ammos. East Perth got two from the ammos last year and are presently b22


As for the Tpp. Both Peel and west coast have $147,000 and Wafl clubs about $245,00.
It is as fair as practically possible. The traditional clubs get more because they don't have 10-12 afl players getting paid
a couple of million to pay wafl.Apart from Jackson Nelson, Trey Ruscoe, Gilbey and Sparks who would get paid well?
I again would think the Beagles Tpp would be under their limit and if it wasn't i would question why not?
I'll flip the narrative.


Do you think that the Beagles are setup for success and ultimately the success for the Eagles and what we are trying to achieve? And that's a place where our players who are not ready are playing in a competitive team and league to hone and build on their skills.

Or is it to protect the royals and the traditional WAFL clubs?
 
Our wafl club get belted on the outside inside we are fine its the outside run that is the real worry

That and there turn overs are killing us

There is just no spread and understanding of position outside the contest

Really needs a lot of coaching with the amo boys to fix this

Just on Gaff saw him without his jumper on was shocked at his conditioning he has a gut on him
 
Curious to see who you think we are going to replace all our injured/out of form players with next week if no one is ready or is s**t?
That's probably the point mate, we'll have a few players coming in a bit short of a gallop.

We already have with Sheed and Ryan I suppose.

If I had to throw up some names I'd probably start with Dewar, but presumably Brockman didn't play today as he's seen as the automatic inclusion. I don't think I'd bring in Culley yet. If we could fit in Edwards and perhaps push Rotham further up for a week then I would, Harry has been very good the last few weeks. Likely unbalances us too much though.
 
I'll flip the narrative.


Do you think that the Beagles are setup for success and ultimately the success for the Eagles and what we are trying to achieve? And that's a place where our players who are not ready are playing in a competitive team and league to hone and build on their skills.

Or is it to protect the royals and the traditional WAFL clubs?

What effect do you think the “protections” are actually having on our ability to compete? Given we haven’t got near our salary cap.

The WAFL could relax the rules even more than they have, it’s still not going to help if we can’t entice decent players to sign up because they don’t want to play in repeated beltings, and/or risk getting dropped to the ammos regardless of form so an AFL player coming back from injury can come in and play limited minutes.
 

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I'll flip the narrative.


Do you think that the Beagles are setup for success and ultimately the success for the Eagles and what we are trying to achieve? And that's a place where our players who are not ready are playing in a competitive team and league to hone and build on their skills.

Or is it to protect the royals and the traditional WAFL clubs?

Yes they setup for success, unfortunately the Eagles have been decimated with injuries the last couple of years. And they have recruited poorly. How is that the WAFL clubs fault if the WCE football club do their job poorly?
 
Forcing a club to play Ammos is ultimately going to destroy the integrity of the WA competition. There's a reason the WAFL is weak compared to other leagues (yes, I know you disagree 😉 )

You do know every VFL, WAFL and SANFL club would be playing ammo players.
I think you are failing to accept that an AFK reserves side talent level is 2nd/3rd tier level.
That level is WAFL and amateur level. This applies to all AFL clubs.
 
You do know every VFL, WAFL and SANFL club would be playing ammo players.
I think you are failing to accept that an AFK reserves side talent level is 2nd/3rd tier level.
That level is WAFL and amateur level. This applies to all AFL clubs.
I'll take your word on that. Maybe the ammo comps are stronger there.
 
Forcing a club to play Ammos is ultimately going to destroy the integrity of the WA competition. There's a reason the WAFL is weak compared to other leagues (yes, I know you disagree )

How many guys out of the amateurs played for East Perth today??

They picked a guy out of the reserves who kicked 4 on debut who showed more footy nous and poise than any of our listed players… whose fault is that? The wafl clubs? Not likely


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How many guys out of the amateurs played for East Perth today??

They picked a guy out of the reserves who kicked 4 on debut who showed more footy nous and poise than any of our listed players… whose fault is that? The wafl clubs? Not likely


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No doubt the Eagles are to blame, I don't think Nesbitt had any interest in the WAFL. But it's delusional to think the WAFL haven't played a role as well. Thankfully the Eagles will move to the VFL and this will cease to be an issue.
 
Lot of guys playing A grade Ammos/Country footy who'd walk into most WAFL sides if they could be bothered.

A lot of guys on our AFL list who'd struggle to keep their spot on an A Grade Ammos list.

Therin lies the problem.

WC need to do far better with their Beagles because right now, it's an absolute joke. We aren't getting any sort of development into our young players being absolutely smashed week in week out.
 
No doubt the Eagles are to blame, I don't think Nesbitt had any interest in the WAFL. But it's delusional to think the WAFL haven't played a role as well. Thankfully the Eagles will move to the VFL and this will cease to be an issue.

Except they will need to find the same players to make up the numbers as they won’t attract any top wafl player to them.


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No doubt the Eagles are to blame, I don't think Nesbitt had any interest in the WAFL. But it's delusional to think the WAFL haven't played a role as well. Thankfully the Eagles will move to the VFL and this will cease to be an issue.
The wafl would be pissed when we poach 15 wafl players and don't pay the wafl clubs the fee for allowing our team anymore 🤣
 

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