2nds West Coast Eagles WAFL Watch 2024

[Alesana]

Is the game being broadcast anywhere?

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[greatwhiteshark]

The wafl would be pissed when we poach 15 wafl players and don't pay the wafl clubs the fee for allowing our team anymore

The fee is stuff all now. And who are you going to poach? 24-30 year olds with a career you are going to convince them to come and play in a comp that is for training only. Nit sure it will have any impact on the WAFL unless the AFL allows the AFL clubs seconds to spend huge money.

 

[Ochre]

The fee is stuff all now. And who are you going to poach? 24-30 year olds with a career you are going to convince them to come and play in a comp that is for training only. Nit sure it will have any impact on the WAFL unless the AFL allows the AFL clubs seconds to spend huge money.

If the 19-23 year olds do want a chance at AFL and enter the reserves comp, they're less likely to end up 24-30 year olds in the WAFL though aren't they?

 

[Priddis Is Done]

So so disappointing that the cupboard is pretty much bare in the WAFL. Or if there is a mediocuim of talent in one's pinky, it will never shine through.

The thing that $hits me the most is that some of the credits crew get a pass. Exacerbated by injures.

End of rant.

 

[Underdog]

The bloke leading the league goalkicking, Leigh Kohlmann, was playing for South Bunbury in the SWFL last year. In fact, he's been an amateur and country player most of his career (32 years of age and just 27 league games).

Let's not pretend that WAFL clubs don't have ammos running around for them.

 

[wce4premiership]

WAFL website says Burgeil "0 goals" but I am sure that is a mistake.

 

[chaddy22]

Very, very poor. East Perth rested their two best players and we still got belted. Could easily have been worse.

Harley Sparks put our AFL listed mids to absolute shame in the middle.


EAST PERTH 18.7 115 def. WEST COAST 6.5 41

From best to worst, but not really...

Harry Edwards - 15 disposals, 6 marks
Dominated down back. The only reason we didn't get done by 120 plus.

Tyrell Dewar - 15 disposals, 5 marks, 2 tackles, 5 i50s, 1.3
Our most dangerous player up the ground. Mixed some magic with the quite dumb to possibly play himself out of an AFL berth.

Andrew Gaff - 21 disposals, 6 marks, 2 tackles, 1 i50
No real impact on the game. 1 inside 50 remains unacceptable for a player of his experience playing at that level.

Jai Culley - 13 disposals, 1 mark, 3 tackles, 2 i50s, 1.0
A nice mark and goal early. Still building fitness around the ball. Looked a bit cumbersome, don't think he's ready.

Clay Hall - 17 disposals, 2 tackles
16 handballs says it all. Needs to get more ball on the outside as he actually has some zip and pace. Not ready.

Archer Reid - 6 disposals, 2 marks, 7 HOs, 3 i50s
A bit odd to put a 6 touch game this high, but he looks the part. Can we send him on loan? He's really going to struggle in this system. Has a lovely kick on him, can pick out a pass.

Jamaine Jones - 14 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 i50
No real impact off half back. Gave away some free kicks. Looks a likely delisting at this stage.

Coen Livingstone - 10 disposals, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 16 HOs, 1 i50
A decent effort in the ruck but looks pretty lumbering to me. A lot of development ahead.

Coby Burgiel - 12 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 i50
Another subpar effort. Needs to work harder and demand the ball. Losing enthusiasm with him a little. Lazy disposals.

Loch Rawlinson - 5 disposals, 2 marks, 1 tackle, 1 i50
Surprised he's made his debut before Dewar. Was invisible for the most part.

Jordyn Baker - 9 disposals, 1 mark
Pretty easy delisting, I'd have thought.

they also played one man short due to Schofield injuring himself in a marking contest early in the first quarter.
No better chance for the eagles to win without Scott Jones and Hamish Brayshaw.
I question the recruiting of top up players.
Do they only train twice a week?

 

[ghostbat12]

Is it such a bad thing that players get dispersed across all clubs?

In one side, they don’t play together, but on other side, it’s better than getting smacked (how do you learn the system when you are constantly chasing leather?) and there are senior players at all these wafl clubs who would be leaders and pointing out how to improve.

Just putting it out there as I am not sure who developed what out there today.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

If the 19-23 year olds do want a chance at AFL and enter the reserves comp, they're less likely to end up 24-30 year olds in the WAFL though aren't they?

That would be correct but you must remember they have been passed up multiple times. Unless they are brain dead they will know they will be getting used and under false pretence that they might get a contract.
Some I am sure will fall for it I have no doubt. But from a WAFL clubs point of view they are not players that win them games or are their stars. Just another young bloke with maybe some potential. And that’s where those guys need to be in the dreamland of AFL development comp.

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

Is it such a bad thing that players get dispersed across all clubs?

In one side, they don’t play together, but on other side, it’s better than getting smacked (how do you learn the system when you are constantly chasing leather?) and there are senior players at all these wafl clubs who would be leaders and pointing out how to improve.

Just putting it out there as I am not sure who developed what out there today.

Mate who knows. I think Eagles/WAFL need to have a rethink how to make this work and my preference. Otherwise Eagles need to do whats best for them.

And if that is a national reserves comp with some decent funding, so be it.

4,50M per club for a squad of 30. I am sure you can get a few 19-25 year old that still think they can make it and get paid 100K-ish a year to play 6/7 months of the year. I am pretty sure it can easily be achieved if they want it bad enough.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Is it such a bad thing that players get dispersed across all clubs?

In one side, they don’t play together, but on other side, it’s better than getting smacked (how do you learn the system when you are constantly chasing leather?) and there are senior players at all these wafl clubs who would be leaders and pointing out how to improve.

Just putting it out there as I am not sure who developed what out there today.

Not at all, it worked great for the Eagles for a long time but once one AFL club does something they all follow like sheep and hence here we are.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Mate who knows. I think Eagles/WAFL need to have a rethink how to make this work and my preference. Otherwise Eagles need to do whats best for them.

And if that is a national reserves comp with some decent funding, so be it.

4,50M per club for a squad of 30. I am sure you can get a few 19-25 year old that still think they can make it and get paid 100K-ish a year to play 6/7 months of the year. I am pretty sure it can easily be achieved if they want it bad enough.

You don’t seriously think the AFL are going to put that type of money into a national reserves comp do you?
It will be lucky to be half a million they will put in.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

In a perfect world I would like the Eagles and Dockers to stay in the WAFL. But I can’t see that happening.

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

You don’t seriously think the AFL are going to put that type of money into a national reserves comp do you?
It will be lucky to be half a million they will put in.

Why not?

In the long run they will probably package the TV rights with it, and if it takes off use the state league for promotion relegation which they have talked about in some form. I am sure some Snr Commercial operator could have a strategy for it.

This is all pie in the sky anyway, all I am saying if WAFL and Eagles need to think again about its current alignment. And if Eagles walk away, work with Port/Crows to figure out a proposal. What I hate is the fact we will again reward Victoria (VFL) to be the base of the national reserves comp.

 

[WCE_phil]

Was at the game, Burgiel has become a real worry, even outside of his injuries up till this point. Was told he is fully fit. His knock pre draft was that the defensive side of his game was a weakness however it's starting to look more and more to me as though it's not the defensive side that was lacking but his intent is what was lacking. Looked amazing offensively.

That 2022 draft is looking rough now. The club drafted 3 players I wanted us to draft and all 3 of them have been disappointing so far and the one I didn't want them to draft has easily been the best of the cohort and is getting better and better at AFL level.

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

Was at the game, Burgiel has become a real worry, even outside of his injuries up till this point. Was told he is fully fit. His knock pre draft was that the defensive side of his game was a weakness however it's starting to look more and more to me as though it's not the defensive side that was lacking but his intent is what was lacking. Looked amazing offensively.

That 2022 draft is looking rough now. The club drafted 3 players I wanted us to draft and all 3 of them have been disappointing so far and the one I didn't want them to draft has easily been the best of the cohort and is getting better and better at AFL level.

Are you referring to Ginbey Phil?

And is it really that dire? Surely we have 2/3 years to see where Hewett, Burgiel, Barnett and Long are at.

 

[southcoast]

That 2022 draft is looking rough now. The club drafted 3 players I wanted us to draft and all 3 of them have been disappointing so far and the one I didn't want them to draft has easily been the best of the cohort and is getting better and better at AFL level.

I’d recommend not using this record as a point of reference on your resume’



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[greatwhiteshark]

Why not?

In the long run they will probably package the TV rights with it, and if it takes off use the state league for promotion relegation which they have talked about in some form. I am sure some Snr Commercial operator could have a strategy for it.

This is all pie in the sky anyway, all I am saying if WAFL and Eagles need to think again about its current alignment. And if Eagles walk away, work with Port/Crows to figure out a proposal. What I hate is the fact we will again reward Victoria (VFL) to be the base of the national reserves comp.

Because no one will follow it, I know you say they will but history says no one cares about the seconds. Go back 100 years.
Even if the did gave us a curtain raiser it will not be like it was 40 years ago, the game will finish an hour and a half before the main game so they can do all their pre game rubbish . Who is going to go and watch both? Not very many I can assure you.
I agree the AFL can look at crap and tell their fans it’s good and they will believe it. But this would be a miracle.

 

[chaddy22]

How many guys out of the amateurs played for East Perth today??

They picked a guy out of the reserves who kicked 4 on debut who showed more footy nous and poise than any of our listed players… whose fault is that? The wafl clubs? Not likely


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As some have alluded East Perth's zone is not a good zone.To improve our list we look at many avenues to improve our list. In 2022 we recruited #37 Raykos and #39 Saunders who were playing ammos in 2022.
#26 Mitch Schofield who did a pre season at Richmond this year did not come through our colts system.
#52 Darcey Craven was playing colts last year and didn't get drafted. played his first league game and kicked four goals.
This is the first year at the Royals we have hardly lost any senior players from our list

The question is how come the Beagles list is ever changing.
When you have decent players why do they leave.
I am thinking Alec Waterman and Zane Sumich

All the delisted players decided to go to play for their former clubs except Isaac Winder who being a Peel boy may have been worried about getting a game with the alignment. He is currently in a rich vein of form. Were the Eagles interested in him?

I hear reasons why players don't want to play for the Beagles. They are not a real club. I went to the after game presentations can you? It is all about the process and not about winning at the Eagles

Even the Wafl teams can't retain talent. Point of interest. The hated former Eagle rookie Tom Gorter is playing down south rather than at East Perth. Why because he gets $1000 a game and doesn't have to train. apparently trains by himself.
The Wafl have a paltry tpp compared to the Sanfl apparently

Player retention is not just a Eagles problem

 

[chaddy22]

If the 19-23 year olds do want a chance at AFL and enter the reserves comp, they're less likely to end up 24-30 year olds in the WAFL though aren't they?

one year of delusional hope about making it onto a AFL list and they will return to the WAFl, ammos or country footy which are real competitions not a AFL reserves comp.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Went to the game today and it was a absiolute shitshow summed up by this 1 part of the day

Tyler Brockman was meant to play but was a no show. No one knew where he was or why he hadnt turned up. Eventually they called his agent who said Brockman was at a funeral up north and so wasnt able to play (seemed like no one told them). These numpties dont even know who is playing ffs never mind well coaching to a system, coaching the players and the like

You watch them play and its just u10s like run after the ball, the amount of times East Perth just have some dude sitting 20m away from anyone to be hit up is insane. All the players are so ball focused they just dont contemplate things like defensive pressure, playing on a man or what happens when you lose a contest.

Im at a point where I think we should pull the team from the competition. We would do better organising just scratch matches on a day of our choosing then continuing this shitshow more then 1 second longer

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Was at the game, Burgiel has become a real worry, even outside of his injuries up till this point. Was told he is fully fit. His knock pre draft was that the defensive side of his game was a weakness however it's starting to look more and more to me as though it's not the defensive side that was lacking but his intent is what was lacking. Looked amazing offensively.

That 2022 draft is looking rough now. The club drafted 3 players I wanted us to draft and all 3 of them have been disappointing so far and the one I didn't want them to draft has easily been the best of the cohort and is getting better and better at AFL level.

He is absolutely petrified of contact or the contest. Think he needs to play back pocket and get hit a few times to toughen up.

 

[chaddy22]

Why not?

In the long run they will probably package the TV rights with it, and if it takes off use the state league for promotion relegation which they have talked about in some form. I am sure some Snr Commercial operator could have a strategy for it.

This is all pie in the sky anyway, all I am saying if WAFL and Eagles need to think again about its current alignment. And if Eagles walk away, work with Port/Crows to figure out a proposal. What I hate is the fact we will again reward Victoria (VFL) to be the base of the national reserves comp.

You guys are streaming or watching it on free to air tv. What makes it so more attractive for tv rights to pay up big money to see Sheed and Gaff running around in the reserves.
Another comment i heard is that the players are in favour of staying in the Wafl rather than a national comp.
We always think that our travelling cuts the life of a eagles player and now we want to add more travel and shorten their afl career even more

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

You guys are streaming or watching it on free to ait tv. What makes it so more attractive for tv rights to pay up big money to see Sheed and Gaff running around in the reserves.
Another comment i heard is that the players are in favour of staying in the Wafl rather than a national comp.
We always think that our travelling cuts the life of a eagles player and now we want to add more travel and shorten their afl career even more

You mean a bunch of soft numpties want to take the soft option? Color me shocked on that one

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Went to the game today and it was a absiolute shitshow summed up by this 1 part of the day

Tyler Brockman was meant to play but was a no show. No one knew where he was or why he hadnt turned up. Eventually they called his agent who said Brockman was at a funeral up north and so wasnt able to play (seemed like no one told them). These numpties dont even know who is playing ffs never mind well coaching to a system, coaching the players and the like

You watch them play and its just u10s like run after the ball, the amount of times East Perth just have some dude sitting 20m away from anyone to be hit up is insane. All the players are so ball focused they just dont contemplate things like defensive pressure, playing on a man or what happens when you lose a contest.

Im at a point where I think we should pull the team from the competition. We would do better organising just scratch matches on a day of our choosing then continuing this shitshow more then 1 second longer

Just out if curiosity how will it be any different in the VFL? Still going to have the same average players. Yiu can’t possibly think the top ups the difference?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Just out if curiosity how will it be any different in the VFL? Still going to have the same average players. Yiu can’t possibly think the top ups the difference?

We wont be hamstrung in the other ways we are. Its not just playing list issues. The club has zero leadership, a set of coaches who dont appear to have a clue and basically just play spineless weak football.

Cleaning the slate means a few things. We can sign some leaders, we can find some leaders, we can get coaches who are not complete morons and we can hopefully move towards a new direction with all that in mind.