West Coast need an elite clearance midfielder. Who is it and what do they need to give up?

[Sydswans0512]

 

[Sydswans0512]

You can offer crap trades but nobody can do the same to you?

We were told there was a clause in his contract and we tried to exercise that wouldn't anyone?

 

[Tragic sainter]

We were told there was a clause in his contract and we tried to exercise that wouldn't anyone?

Well in that case if Parker wants to come home we'll offer our fourth rounder otherwise he can walk in the draft. Wouldn't anyone do that?

 

[Sydswans0512]

Well in that case if Parker wants to come home we'll offer our fourth rounder otherwise he can walk in the draft. Wouldn't anyone do that?

The problem you are going to have is every team in Melbourne will offer something for a 20 year old star mid. He's a lot better than Josh Caddy and look how many teams went after him.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Well in that case if Parker wants to come home we'll offer our fourth rounder otherwise he can walk in the draft. Wouldn't anyone do that?

No they wouldn't.
He walks to the draft, you don't get him.
These tough guy tactics work once in a blue moon.

 

[eaglespremiers]

For the record I'd be more than happy to trade Gaff or our 1st pick + fringe player for Parker.

 

[Sydswans0512]

For the record I'd be more than happy to trade Gaff or our 1st pick + fringe player for Parker.

See Gaff is something we could really use I'm thinking we'd have to give you an upgrade of picks aswell

 

[Tragic sainter]

No they wouldn't.
He walks to the draft, you don't get him.
These tough guy tactics work once in a blue moon.

Happened to us with Luke ball. And we had to take a crappy trade or lose crips to the draft for nothing. It can be done.

 

[Sydswans0512]

Happened to us with Luke ball. And we had to take a crappy trade or lose crips to the draft for nothing. It can be done.

Luke Ball was barely making your team and couldn't kick over a jam tin due to a bad groin vs a 20 year old with no injury worries.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Happened to us with Luke ball. And we had to take a crappy trade or lose crips to the draft for nothing. It can be done.

Yes, but Cripps was not performing at the level that Parker is.
And then he nominated one club in a two-club city.
We offered what we could, we didn't have anything else to give.
I think you are letting emotion cloud your reasoning.
The Luke Ball incident was unfortunate, but he put a price on his head that no one else would match.
It didn't reflect well on Collingwood, either.
But Parker would have to put something ridiculous on his head to stop any other Melbourne club from taking him before you.
Melbourne would take him in a heartbeat. He'd improve their midfield straight away.

 

[Sydswans0512]

Yes, but Cripps was not performing at the level that Parker is.
And then he nominated one club in a two-club city.
We offered what we could, we didn't have anything else to give.
I think you are letting emotion cloud your reasoning.
The Luke Ball incident was unfortunate, but he put a price on his head that no one else would match.
It didn't reflect well on Collingwood, either.
But Parker would have to put something ridiculous on his head to stop any other Melbourne club from taking him before you.
Melbourne would take him in a heartbeat. He'd improve their midfield straight away.

And Melbourne have a few guys that we would be willing to trade for

 

[swansfan51]

For the record I'd be more than happy to trade Gaff or our 1st pick + fringe player for Parker.

A high endurance link-man like Gaff would be a real asset to us, and West Coast are obviously looking for that real tough inside midfielder. We'd obviously want to keep Parker but if he wanted out a swap like that would be quite fair. A lot closer than Gilbert.

 

[Sydswans0512]

A high endurance link-man like Gaff would be a real asset to us, and West Coast are obviously looking for that real tough inside midfielder. We'd obviously want to keep Parker but if he wanted out a swap like that would be quite fair. A lot closer than Gilbert.

I wouldn't think Parker would want to up and move to Western Australia tho but it is a pretty good trade both teams would be happy.

 

[eaglespremiers]

I wouldn't think Parker would want to up and move to Western Australia tho but it is a pretty good trade both teams would be happy.

If we traded Gaff for Parker and our 1st round for Conca then our clearance midfield would be significantly bolstered in the future.

 

[Sydswans0512]

If we traded Gaff for Parker and our 1st round for Conca then our clearance midfield would be significantly bolstered in the future.

Why not try Gaff for David Swallow?

 

[eaglespremiers]

Why not try Gaff for David Swallow?

Certainly a consideration.
Many feel that Swallow is underperforming, while others think he is merely being played out of position.
Regardless, ATM he is not as good a prospect as Parker.

 

[Sydswans0512]

Certainly a consideration.
Many feel that Swallow is underperforming, while others think he is merely being played out of position.
Regardless, ATM he is not as good a prospect as Parker.

He might be under performing for his pick 1 status but I think he's doing ok and he's a clearance mid from WA a lot more chance of landing him.

 

[Sydswans0512]

Player Statistics Comparison
Luke Parker Name David Swallow
Sydney Swans Team Gold Coast Suns
Midfield Position Midfield
47 Career Games 48
Dandenong Stingrays Origin East Fremantle
October 25, 1992 Date of Birth November 19, 1992
20yr 8mth Age 20yr 7mth
183cm Height 186cm
86kg Weight 86kg
2010 National Draft Last Drafted In 2010 National Draft
Round 2, Pick #40 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #1
Sydney Swans Last Drafted By Gold Coast Suns
2013 Stats for Season 2013
15 Games 15
10.3 Kicks Per Game 10.7
10.5 Handballs Per Game 8.1
20.9 Disposals Per Game 18.8
2.9 Marks Per Game 2.7
0.9 Goals Per Game 0.1
0.3 Behinds Per Game 0.1
5.5 Tackles Per Game 3.1
0 Hitouts Per Game 0.1
3.1 Inside 50s Per Game 2.4
0.7 Goal Assists Per Game 0.2
1.1 Frees For Per Game 0.5
1.0 Frees Against Per Game 1.0
10.4 Contested Possessions Per Game 8.2
10.1 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 10.5
13.3 Effective Disposals Per Game 13.1
63.6% Effective Disposals % Per Game 69.7%
2.8 Clangers Per Game 2.5
0.6 Contested Marks Per Game 0.3
0.9 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 0.2
3.2 Clearances Per Game 2.0
0.7 Rebound 50s Per Game 2.7
0.9 One Percenters Per Game 1.6
0.1 Bounces Per Game 0.9
74.5 Time On Ground % Per Game 81.9
$385,900 Dream Team Price $301,100
86.5 Dream Team Score Per Game 66.9
$448,500 Supercoach Price $340,700
91.7 Supercoach Score Per Game 74.6
They are not too far apart

 

[eaglespremiers]

He might be under performing for his pick 1 status but I think he's doing ok and he's a clearance mid from WA a lot more chance of landing him.

No, I'd be perfectly happy landing David Swallow.
We'd use him as a pure insider which would probably get the best out of him anyway.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Player Statistics Comparison
Luke Parker Name David Swallow
Sydney Swans Team Gold Coast Suns
Midfield Position Midfield
47 Career Games 48
Dandenong Stingrays Origin East Fremantle
October 25, 1992 Date of Birth November 19, 1992
20yr 8mth Age 20yr 7mth
183cm Height 186cm
86kg Weight 86kg
2010 National Draft Last Drafted In 2010 National Draft
Round 2, Pick #40 Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #1
Sydney Swans Last Drafted By Gold Coast Suns
2013 Stats for Season 2013
15 Games 15
10.3 Kicks Per Game 10.7
10.5 Handballs Per Game 8.1
20.9 Disposals Per Game 18.8
2.9 Marks Per Game 2.7
0.9 Goals Per Game 0.1
0.3 Behinds Per Game 0.1
5.5 Tackles Per Game 3.1
0 Hitouts Per Game 0.1
3.1 Inside 50s Per Game 2.4
0.7 Goal Assists Per Game 0.2
1.1 Frees For Per Game 0.5
1.0 Frees Against Per Game 1.0
10.4 Contested Possessions Per Game 8.2
10.1 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 10.5
13.3 Effective Disposals Per Game 13.1
63.6% Effective Disposals % Per Game 69.7%
2.8 Clangers Per Game 2.5
0.6 Contested Marks Per Game 0.3
0.9 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 0.2
3.2 Clearances Per Game 2.0
0.7 Rebound 50s Per Game 2.7
0.9 One Percenters Per Game 1.6
0.1 Bounces Per Game 0.9
74.5 Time On Ground % Per Game 81.9
$385,900 Dream Team Price $301,100
86.5 Dream Team Score Per Game 66.9
$448,500 Supercoach Price $340,700
91.7 Supercoach Score Per Game 74.6
They are not too far apart

Stats don't mean much. It is impact that matters.
I have Parker competing for a position in my top 50 ATM.
Swallow (of the David variety) is not.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

You'd probably have to draft one, we'll trade you pick 2 for Gaff and you can take your pick of the best inside mids in this draft .

 

[eaglespremiers]

You'd probably have to draft one, we'll trade you pick 2 for Gaff and you can take your pick of the best inside mids in this draft .

Would you give pick 2 in the draft for Gaff?
We'd probably pick up someone like Aish then.
Not purely inside but too hard to go past.
Then we could look at a pure mid with our pick around-10ish like Crouch to compliment him.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Would you give pick 2 in the draft for Gaff?
We'd probably pick up someone like Aish then.
Not purely inside but too hard to go past.
Then we could look at a pure mid with our pick around-10ish like Crouch to compliment him.

Well, admittedly I'm biased because I went to school with him...

He was a big Demon fan, he was perfectly capable of winning inside ball as a junior, he's got great skills and is a hard worker and will have about 65 games at the end of the year.

Yeah, I'd give up pick 2 - it's a slight risk in terms of maybe being able to get a better player through the draft, but he's played a fair bit of good footy at WCE.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Shane Tuck? Knows how to find and win the ball - probably a slightly older and less skilled version of Priddis. Not sure if he will go on next year and given his age and being settled in Melbourne, not sure he would be tempted to move interstate.

Other than that, can't think of any other players on our list we might want to trade. Was Koby Stevens an inside midfielder?

 

[Sydswans0512]

Shane Tuck? Knows how to find and win the ball - probably a slightly older and less skilled version of Priddis. Not sure if he will go on next year and given his age and being settled in Melbourne, not sure he would be tempted to move interstate.

Other than that, can't think of any other players on our list we might want to trade. Was Koby Stevens an inside midfielder?

Stevens isn't a genuine inside mid but he can get in there for the clearances