Traded Liam Baker - Now a West Coast Eagle

[Jeremias]

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[SSSSSS]

Hasn't it been confirmed that offer was never on the table from Hawthorn? I lose track with all the blatant incorrect reporting by the footy media.

Didn't we have 14 + Future 2nd and the sticking point was the Eagles didn't want to send a future 3rd back?

A pick in the late 30s to 40s next year caused your club to implode it's draft hand.

Hilarious.

 

[bzparkes]

You will get our Future 3rd for TB and you will be happy.

Clarke is a VICBias plant.

I'm beginning to believe...

 

[raffrox]

Surely this means that Baker was seriously considering coming to Freo?

What a desperate move by the Eagles.

 

[bzparkes]

Didn't we have 14 + Future 2nd and the sticking point was the Eagles didn't want to send a future 3rd back?

A pick in the late 30s to 40s next year caused your club to implode it's draft hand.

Hilarious.

Offer from Hawks was 14 and F3rd, according to Duffield.

 

[Wild Bill]

I disagree, precedent is there now with eagles. 12 and 14 got pick 3, surely 10 and 14 gets 2. Go get em Blair!

Lachie Weller got Freo pick 2 - just because 1 club makes a mistake - doesn’t mean all clubs will.

Without 6 we shouldn’t go anywhere near a trade.

 

[fnerd]

Surely this means that Baker was seriously considering coming to Freo?

What a desperate move by the Eagles.

Apparently Pyke on radio said our offer for Bolten and baker “showed” WC just how valuable little Liam is….


Oh man it’s looking more and more our “offers” for baker sky rocketed his price for what WC had to pay ….

Just when I thought reading all the details of thid trade couldn’t get any better from a freo perspective…

 

[tigs2010]

Dumb as shit when he got where he wanted to go a year early? Baker wouldn't have got us band 1 next year, at best would've been end of R1.

The only person that's come away from this deal looking 'dumb' it Matty Clarke for coughing up pick 3.

I should go back and find their posts about Clarke not being a dud and it's just Richmond fans being bitter.

 

[T2B_]

Honestly just feeling pity for WCE long suffering supporters

Sure I wanted to “win” the trade

But getting pick 14 when I thought he was worth 16-18 and WCE supporters thought he was worth 21-23 was enough for me

This feels devastating for WCE supporters on the back of a few very tough years

Doesn’t sit well

I mean, they won a flag less than 10 years ago.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Shit deal overall for Eagles but you've got a beauty in Baker. Has been harshly marked in here by most Freo and Eagles fans cos they were stressing about overpaying for him, but the guy is a jet and will become a fan favorite very quickly.

I think the issue he will have is they overpaid for him, so they expect too much from him.

Especially if pick 3 goes well, and pick 12 does not, then he will be in a non win situation.

 

[dean33]

Lachie Weller got Freo pick 2 - just because 1 club makes a mistake - doesn’t mean all clubs will.

Without 6 we shouldn’t go anywhere near a trade.

Fair enough, 6 and 30 should get it done. You negotiate hard my friend.

 

[Cactus_]

I mean, they won a flag less than 10 years ago.

This is true

Seemed like such a freak at the time it hardly even registered

 

[tiger_tough]

I think the issue he will have is they overpaid for him, so they expect too much from him.

Especially if pick 3 goes well, and pick 12 does not, then he will be in a non win situation.

Barely.

The real issue is that he was not a good fit for them given the rebuild and the need to hit the draft. Baker always made much more sense for Freo, but Eagles couldn't resist.

 

[Cactus_]

It does sound like it is possible in this draft that the player taken at 12 will be as good or better than the player taken at 3 . . .

 

[LOLchie Schultz]

WCEs went to another level today

 

[Cactus_]

Barely.

The real issue is that he was not a good fit for them given the rebuild and the need to hit the draft. Baker always made much more sense for Freo, but Eagles couldn't resist.

Seems to be talk that Baker wouldn’t go to Freo (maybe because $ were a lot lower)

If so he’s probably taken $ in return for being a whipping boy at WCE due to the way he joined the club

 

[JackOutback]

It does sound like it is possible in this draft that the player taken at 12 will be as good or better than the player taken at 3 . . .

It's always possible. The best players overall are rarely taken in the top five (Cripps, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Neale etc). But what you get with a top 3 pick is an almost guarantee of a quality, 200-game player. Picks in the teens are more gambles, with some excelling but just as many not making it.

 

[Cactus_]

It's always possible. The best players overall are rarely taken in the top five (Cripps, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Neale etc). But what you get with a top 3 pick is an almost guarantee of a quality, 200-game player. Picks in the teens are more gambles, with some excelling but just as many not making it.

If you were one pick in front of Freo rather than one pick behind and you scored Bo Allen that might go a fair way to easing the pain – the guy looks like a beast

 

[Cactus_]

Or WCE could still score the best KPF in the draft at 12 so if they’d decided that’s what they wanted anyway . . .

 

[tiger_tough]

Seems to be talk that Baker wouldn’t go to Freo (maybe because $ were a lot lower)

If so he’s probably taken $ in return for being a whipping boy at WCE due to the way he joined the club

He would have, had the Eagles not already committed to him.

 

[tonygeeks]

Honestly just feeling pity for WCE long suffering supporters

Sure I wanted to “win” the trade

But getting pick 14 when I thought he was worth 16-18 and WCE supporters thought he was worth 21-23 was enough for me

This feels devastating for WCE supporters on the back of a few very tough years

Doesn’t sit well

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[Barrybran]

Or WCE could still score the best KPF in the draft at 12 so if they’d decided that’s what they wanted anyway . . .

Scoring the best KPF in this draft would cap off this trading period nicely. It's the last position we need players in.

 

[Cam Payne]

Honestly just feeling pity for WCE long suffering supporters

Sure I wanted to “win” the trade

But getting pick 14 when I thought he was worth 16-18 and WCE supporters thought he was worth 21-23 was enough for me

This feels devastating for WCE supporters on the back of a few very tough years

Doesn’t sit well

There is no such thing as a long suffering Eagles supporter and there won't be for at least 10 years.

 

[Wild Bill]

Fair enough, 6 and 30 should get it done. You negotiate hard my friend.

Thanks - but no thanks - I would prefer either FOS or Lalor.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Thanks - but no thanks - I would prefer either FOS or Lalor.

I'd do 6 & 14 for 2 & 25.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Surely this means that Baker was seriously considering coming to Freo?

What a desperate move by the Eagles.

I thought Eagles was the preferred option?