AFLW West Coast Womens Discussion

[eagleskickass]

Open your deep ******* wallets and get it done.

Soft cap is the issue, we could easily afford it otherwise.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Soft cap is the issue, we could easily afford it otherwise.

Does she want a Hungry Jacks franchise?

 

[Monocle]

Does she want a Hungry Jacks franchise?

Even better.

 

[Keys]

Open your deep ******* wallets and get it done.

If they wanted to show the players that they were serious about getting better as well as supporters then it’s hard to think of a better way of doing it

 

[FKASC]

Please make it happen Nesbit

 

[Carbine Chaos]

The standard of play in the GF has been really good.

It's scary how far off the pace we are.

 

[UseR2006]

North complete choking in the last though.

 

[Avalor]

The standard of play in the GF has been really good.

It's scary how far off the pace we are.

Don't agree with the standard at all, scrappy stuff and girls couldn't pick up the ball or handle it cleanly.
Thought the umpiring was terrible too, as they didn't pay the many kicks where players were scragged or held without the ball, and that led to the scrappiness of the whole affair. Wasn't a good advertisement for the game.
Intensity was strong, and I agree with your last point, we, the WCE, have a bit to do.

 

[Biggie]

Thought the umpiring was terrible too

Has been like this all season unfortunately

 

[Kegs15]

Don't agree with the standard at all, scrappy stuff and girls couldn't pick up the ball or handle it cleanly.
Thought the umpiring was terrible too, as they didn't pay the many kicks where players were scragged or held without the ball, and that led to the scrappiness of the whole affair. Wasn't a good advertisement for the game.
Intensity was strong, and I agree with your last point, we, the WCE, have a bit to do.

Agreed about the umpiring - I didn't find it scrappy though, more just intense pressure - was interesting watching the styles of a more hardened team in Brisbane always be second to the ball but nail the tackles and grind things down vs North trying for cleaner clearances that looked great when coming off, but lost effectiveness when the legs tired. Little bit similar to how Sydney used to play us in the 05/06 finals games.

The decision making of all the players out there was leagues above our standard - when to keep feet vs go to ground, spread vs man up, spoil vs mark etc. Probably not a particularly insightful or left-field observation to compare their coaching and footy smarts to ours but was the biggest gap IMO

 

[AlphaSheep]

Agreed about the umpiring - I didn't find it scrappy though, more just intense pressure - was interesting watching the styles of a more hardened team in Brisbane always be second to the ball but nail the tackles and grind things down vs North trying for cleaner clearances that looked great when coming off, but lost effectiveness when the legs tired. Little bit similar to how Sydney used to play us in the 05/06 finals games.

The decision making of all the players out there was leagues above our standard - when to keep feet vs go to ground, spread vs man up, spoil vs mark etc. Probably not a particularly insightful or left-field observation to compare their coaching and footy smarts to ours but was the biggest gap IMO

Same old AFLW problem, too much congestion. The players skills are fine, they're just given no chance to execute when they have 0.03 of a second before they get tackled. When the players only kick the ball 30 meters, the zone defence stands real close together, leaving no room and turning the game into rugby. It's the biggest structural difference between AFL and AFLW, and the AFLW don't have a solution yet.

My only idea, again, is get white-hot on holding the ball. The coaches make no effort to move the ball to open ground, because they consider it risky. Just take the tackle, get a stoppage, restart the game. But if umpires are constantly picking free kicks out of tackles, then getting tackled becomes risky, and moving the ball wide becomes less risky by comparison. They have to stop congestion from being the safe option.

If anyone still doesn't think the women have great skills, watch a replay of Melbourne flogging teams earlier this season. Terrific skills. But they got found out toward the end of the season, ugly congestion still beats fun football in the AFLW, and it crushes skills and fun. The AFLW will never be a big deal if they can't fix it.

 

[AlphaSheep]

Here you go - WCE chasing Pearce as senior coach for the AFLW side

Seems a long shot but she has history with Cowan. In a good way

Wonder if the realisation that Zippy Fish didn't want to stay here had any role in this? Daisy as the WC coach might change her mind. Might make it easier to get good Eastern States players over, too.

 

[Monocle]

Wonder if the realisation that Zippy Fish didn't want to stay here had any role in this? Daisy as the WC coach might change her mind. Might make it easier to get good Eastern States players over, too.

Excellent points.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Rookie Me Central have just released their AFLW Draft Guidelines



Also include a write up on a certain Falcon's player

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

 

[AlphaSheep]

AFLW Draft Guide. Lot of work put into this, looks great. 2023 AFLW Draft Guide View

 

[AlphaSheep]

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Dude, just beat me to it!

 

[AlphaSheep]

I like Slocombe a lot, but I think 5th is a bit generous. If we get all of the top three, this could be the best draft in Eagles history (not saying much). Slocombe would be a timely replacement if Rowley can't make it back from the ACL in time, Cleaver's a genuine weapon forward and gives depth in the ruck, and Srhoj... I'd guess either on a wing or halfback flank? More speed and height.

Lots of mid-170cm fast players about. Already there's Roberts and Thomas, add Srhoj, if we don't get Zippy next year then we'll definitely get O'Hehir, and in that draft there's Chambers and Entwistle, too.

 

[Biggie]

A few highly touted picks have gone national in the draft and I hear there’s some interest there from WCE.

Not just looking at the WA talent, which is very pleasing.

Might be a surprise first pick

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

A few highly touted picks have gone national in the draft and I hear there’s some interest there from WCE.

Not just looking at the WA talent, which is very pleasing.

Might be a surprise first pick

Can you say which ones have gone national?

 

[footyknut]

A few highly touted picks have gone national in the draft and I hear there’s some interest there from WCE.

Not just looking at the WA talent, which is very pleasing.

Might be a surprise first pick

And if the info in the draft forum board is correct, Srhoj, Slocombe and Henry have nominated National as well so might not go to WA clubs.

 

[Biggie]

Can you say which ones have gone national?

So couldn't post the full list due to potential land alterations, but here's how the AFLW Draft Combine invitees nominated:

NATIONAL:​

Jacinta Baldwick (Lions Academy / Queensland)
Brooke Barwick (Tasmania Devils / Tasmania)
Alissa Brook (South Adelaide/ South Australia)
Cleo Buttifant (Giants Academy / NSW-ACT)
Ava Campbell (Eastern Ranges / Vic Metro)
Kyanne Campbell (South Adelaide / Northern Territory)
Georgia Clark (Tasmania Devils / Tasmania)
Tyla Crabtree (GWV Rebels / Vic Country)
Sophia De Castella (Giants Academy / NSW-ACT)
Gabby Eaton (Swans Academy / NSW-ACT)
Mackenzie Ford (Tasmania Devils / Tasmania)
Keely Fullerton (Bendigo Pioneers / Vic Country)
T'Sharni Graham (Palmerston Magpies / Northern Territory)
Elaine Grigg (Central District / South Australia)
Sarah Grunden (Calder Cannons / Vic Metro)
Lara Hausegger (Oakleigh Chargers / Vic Metro)
Jaime Henry (Swan Districts / Western Australia)
Tamara Henry (Western Jets / Vic Metro)
Lilu Hung (Lions Academy / Queensland)
Holly Ifould (South Adelaide / South Australia)
Lily Jordan (GWV Rebels / Vic Country)
Tshinta Kendall (Bond University / Queensland)
Annabel Kievit (Waratah / Northern Territory)
Tunisha Kikoak (Tasmania Devils / Tasmania)
Mylee Leitch (East Fremantle / Western Australia)
Evie Long (Sandgate / Queensland)
Josie McCabe (Suns Academy / Queensland)
Cassie McWilliam (Swan Districts / Northern Territory)
Olivia Morris (Swans Academy / NSW-ACT)
Holly O'Flaherty (Lions Academy / Queensland)
Anjelique Raison (East Fremantle / Western Australia)
Jemma Ramsdale (Dandenong Stingrays / Vic Country)
Jess Rentsch (GWV Rebels / Vic Country)
Meg Robertson (Dandenong Stingrays / Vic Country)
Marnie Robinson (Swans Academy / NSW-ACT)
Laura Roy (Lions Academy / Queensland)
Jasmine Shepherd (Sandringham Dragons / Vic Metro)
Ella Slocombe (Claremont / Western Australia)
Kaitlyn Srhoj (Peel Thunder / Western Australia)
Mel Staunton (Giants Academy / NSW-ACT)
Jo Sunderland (Geelong Falcons / Vic Country)
Amber Swan (Lions Academy / Queensland)
Jasmyn Thompson (Tasmania Devils / Tasmania)
Asha Turner Funk (Swans Academy / NSW-ACT)
Zara Walsh (Sturt / South Australia)
Kristie-Lee Weston-Turner (Western Jets / Vic Metro)
Kiera Whiley (Western Jets / Vic Metro)
Indiana Williams (Lions Academy / Queensland)
Mia Zielinski (Sandringham Dragons / Vic Metro)

NSW:​

Serina Baukes (Swans Academy / NSW-ACT)
Kendra Blattman (Swans Academy / NSW-ACT)

QUEENSLAND:​

Kiara Bischa (Suns Academy / Queensland)
Rania Crozier (Lions Academy / Queensland)
Sienna McMullen (Suns Academy / Queensland)
Sophie Peters (Lions Academy / Queensland)

SOUTH AUSTRALIA:​

Brooke Boileau (South Adelaide / South Australia)
Piper Window (Glenelg / South Australia)

VICTORIA:​

Chloe Adams (Geelong Falcons / Vic Country)
Isabel Bacon (Sandringham Dragons / Vic Metro)
Sophie Butterworth (Dandenong Stingrays / Vic Country)
Lucy Cronin (Oakleigh Chargers / Vic Metro)
Annabelle Embelton (Sandringham Dragons / Vic Metro)
Emily Gough (Sandringham Dragons / Vic Metro)
Jacinta Hose (Eastern Ranges / Vic Metro)
Ava Jordan (Northern Knights / Vic Metro)
Lila Keck (Bendigo Pioneers / Vic Country)
Bianca Lyne (Dandenong Stingrays / Vic Country)
Chantal Mason (Geelong Falcons / Vic Country)
Bryde O'Rourke (Bendigo Pioneers / Vic Country)
Alyssia Pisano (Eastern Ranges / Vic Metro)
Jemma Rigoni (Oakleigh Chargers / Vic Metro)
Amber Schutte (Gippsland Power / Vic Country)
Georgia Stubs (Eastern Ranges / Vic Metro)
Mikayla Williamson (Dandenong Stingrays / Vic Country)

WESTERN AUSTRALIA:​

Georgie Cleaver (East Fremantle / Western Australia)
Liliana Grassenis (West Perth / Western Australia)
Eva O'Donnell (Claremont / Western Australia)

 

[Monocle]

Thanks Biggie for posting that list.

Wow the number of girls that have nominated for National Selection is huge.

Shows how the new pay deal has significantly altered the drafting landscape.

Biggie - any more snippets of news as to how the Coach search is going ?

I would be hoping that the news of who the next Coach will be could be known before the full draft and trade period.

My understanding is that there are four Coaching positions that need filling:

Collingwood
Doggies
West Coast

And I can’t remember who the fourth Club is !

 

[DanWCE]

Thanks Biggie for posting that list.

Wow the number of girls that have nominated for National Selection is huge.

Shows how the new pay deal has significantly altered the drafting landscape.

Biggie - any more snippets of news as to how the Coach search is going ?

I would be hoping that the news of who the next Coach will be could be known before the full draft and trade period.

My understanding is that there are four Coaching positions that need filling:

Collingwood
Doggies
West Coast

And I can’t remember who the fourth Club is !

Has Giants coach departed? Feel like I may have seen that somewhere