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you can only play and beat who the 21 are on the day,,, so stop using excuses portland,,,, u got beaten by better side on the day by the looks of it,, and i hate north,, but stop mentioning who you have out injured coz it means your disrespecting some of your own that are in the 21 at the minute then... also,,,, before millicent people get too up in arms,, the kid was alright,,, and iu dont condone what happened,, but remember in Round 1 a hamilton KID got his jaw broken in which J.Rehn was given 4 weeks.... Short memorys guys
Agree with your first comments. But the Rehn incident in no way makes Becker's thuggery somehow immune from disgust. This guy Becker needs a big holiday. He is a habitual thug. He also belted Nitschke behind play in the first game.
 
If there depth is there strength its obvious to me that it must be no good.I am no rocket scientist but i can read the scores put on the sporting pulse each sat night and it does state you got rolled yesterday.i cant really pick up what your putting down here sam42 maybe bring a few under 18 players in as it looks like your reserve depth is struggling.

I guess what I am trying to put down is that North are not going to be much of a threat come finals.
 

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sam42 that is a big call about north,,,, to say they wont be a threat straight after they beat portland,,, i hope the portland players arent thinking the same as you coz they will fall in a whole real quick. UM, yeh i do agree with you guys, this becker is obvisiously a thug,, im just reminded MILLICENT people that are crying wolf of things that have happened this year. The young kid from hamilton had a broken jaw from the incident in round 1 and the young kid from millicent as ive been told by a millicent player was in the showers jiking around after the game and seemed to be alright..I think both incidents are disgusting and i dont condone either of them,, just stating facts guys
 
sam42 that is a big call about north,,,, to say they wont be a threat straight after they beat portland,,, i hope the portland players arent thinking the same as you coz they will fall in a whole real quick. UM, yeh i do agree with you guys, this becker is obvisiously a thug,, im just reminded MILLICENT people that are crying wolf of things that have happened this year. The young kid from hamilton had a broken jaw from the incident in round 1 and the young kid from millicent as ive been told by a millicent player was in the showers jiking around after the game and seemed to be alright..I think both incidents are disgusting and i dont condone either of them,, just stating facts guys

Regardless of who started it etc etc, the whole thing is a disgrace. There is no room for violence in country footy especially in the crowds. There was also an ugly incident in the South West League - Westerns V Dartmoor. About 60 people involved in an all in brawl and about 6 cop cars with one spectator being taken in the ambulance unconcious.

What are both incidents showing the young kids that run around kicking the footy all arvo. It's not on and the people from the crowds involved need to be banned from the leagues for a bit. Both leagues need to take a stand against it before it becomes the norm.
 
I guess what I am trying to put down is that North are not going to be much of a threat come finals.
I disagree with you SAM42.You stated in a previous quote the portland footy club depth is there main strength in 2011.You then bob after a loss saying you have 5 players out and are using that as an excuse you lost to north and they will not shape the finals.Hows your depth looking now?.obviously not very good if it is beaten by a side you dont rate as a finals threat.This would have to be one of the most stupid opinions i have read on this forum and there have been a few stupid ones from a few campaigners on here.I hope that 42 on the end of your name is not your age.If you are a little younger than that get down to tigers training this week and help stock there b grade depth up a bit because by the sounds of it they need a little help.
 
Sam42 no point using injuries as an excuse. North had a heap early in the season, west seem to be in the same vote as Portland and so is probably every other club in the league half way through the season. All you can do is field the best 21 available end of story. Bit early talking finals, hope Portland falls short in the last day of September. Look at south last year. Best team out there and didn't make it.
 
sam42 that is a big call about north,,,, to say they wont be a threat straight after they beat portland,,, i hope the portland players arent thinking the same as you coz they will fall in a whole real quick. UM, yeh i do agree with you guys, this becker is obvisiously a thug,, im just reminded MILLICENT people that are crying wolf of things that have happened this year. The young kid from hamilton had a broken jaw from the incident in round 1 and the young kid from millicent as ive been told by a millicent player was in the showers jiking around after the game and seemed to be alright..I think both incidents are disgusting and i dont condone either of them,, just stating facts guys

Your contacts must run deep If you know whats going on in the showers at Millicent. Caught the last half of the portland/north game and would have to say portland looked the better side even with all these injuries except north kicked away in the last 10 minutes of the game. Whats the story with the imbis boys - when can we expect them back SAM42? Surely portland are not concerned about dropping a game. I believe your almighty 07 side dropped a couple of games.
 
Sam42 no point using injuries as an excuse. North had a heap early in the season, west seem to be in the same vote as Portland and so is probably every other club in the league half way through the season. All you can do is field the best 21 available end of story. Bit early talking finals, hope Portland falls short in the last day of September. Look at south last year. Best team out there and didn't make it.
agree with everything except the bolded part! ;)
i dont think i have ever seen a premiership team go through a season without relying on a lot of players so injuries are just a part of every season for every team. those that deal with them the best will come out on top usually, along with a bit of good management and good fortune.
 
I disagree with you SAM42.You stated in a previous quote the portland footy club depth is there main strength in 2011.You then bob after a loss saying you have 5 players out and are using that as an excuse you lost to north and they will not shape the finals.Hows your depth looking now?.obviously not very good if it is beaten by a side you dont rate as a finals threat.This would have to be one of the most stupid opinions i have read on this forum and there have been a few stupid ones from a few campaigners on here.I hope that 42 on the end of your name is not your age.If you are a little younger than that get down to tigers training this week and help stock there b grade depth up a bit because by the sounds of it they need a little help.
Firstly Portlands depth has been its strength-Portland have only had one loss. Secondly why would I rate a side who only beat Portland by 10 points, on their home ground, with all the players Portland had out. Sorry if that sounds stupid to you. Lets wait and see who turns out to be right.
 
"Of course they have improved" "Who will get near them" Sorry If only you knew, not sure what I was thinking by saying saying I dont think they have improved. By memory, they beat North twice last year???
There would be 9 other sides in the competition happy to be 9W 1L. The North v Portland clashes over the years have been tight, as North seems to play their best against Portland. Maybe North will start delivering what was promised in the lead up to the season. Their last month has been solid! But for me, If Portlands key players stay on the park, the flag is theirs!
 
http://www.standard.net.au/news/loc.../call-for-imps-hamilton-to-merge/2201149.aspx

Call for Imps, Hamilton to merge
TIM AULD
21 Jun, 2011 04:00 AM
FORMER champion Hamilton Imperials footballer Shane McKew has called on his old club to amalgamate with Hamilton and put a side in the Hampden Football Netball League (HFNL) next season.

McKew, who played 180 games with Imperials and is the captain of the century for the club, said if his old club did not amalgamate with Hamilton, then Imperials should put a stand-alone side in the HFNL next year.


“I know there will be plenty of people that will say Imps and Hamilton will never amalgamate but if footy is to grow in this region it’s got to happen,” he said.


“They must join the HFNL.”


The two-time Imperials premiership captain-coach believes if his former Western Border Football League (WBFL) club joins Hampden either by itself or merging with Hamilton, then Portland would follow.

Nice to see someone else jumping on the bandwagon - this will happen - very soon.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if a mount team gets a couple of new players before the cut off for clearances is over. Could be the difference once finals come.
 

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http://www.standard.net.au/news/loc.../call-for-imps-hamilton-to-merge/2201149.aspx

Call for Imps, Hamilton to merge
TIM AULD
21 Jun, 2011 04:00 AM
FORMER champion Hamilton Imperials footballer Shane McKew has called on his old club to amalgamate with Hamilton and put a side in the Hampden Football Netball League (HFNL) next season.

McKew, who played 180 games with Imperials and is the captain of the century for the club, said if his old club did not amalgamate with Hamilton, then Imperials should put a stand-alone side in the HFNL next year.


“I know there will be plenty of people that will say Imps and Hamilton will never amalgamate but if footy is to grow in this region it’s got to happen,” he said.


“They must join the HFNL.”


The two-time Imperials premiership captain-coach believes if his former Western Border Football League (WBFL) club joins Hampden either by itself or merging with Hamilton, then Portland would follow.

Nice to see someone else jumping on the bandwagon - this will happen - very soon.

You've been trying to sell this for some time now and to no prevail. You have to have a genuine reason for weakening a league to strengthen another. The reasons being the club is too strong, not strong enough or for geographical reasons - you dont have a case for either of these. The western border also has to approve this - they wont !!!! And why would the 2 clubs merge? Hamilton have improved this year and imperials have alot of good kids coming through and I have heard of no financial problems on either clubs part. Clubs go up and down it is part of the cycle - we could see these 2 clubs dominating the league soon. At the moment you dont have a case to leave this league!!!
 
http://www.standard.net.au/news/loc.../call-for-imps-hamilton-to-merge/2201149.aspx

Call for Imps, Hamilton to merge
TIM AULD
21 Jun, 2011 04:00 AM
FORMER champion Hamilton Imperials footballer Shane McKew has called on his old club to amalgamate with Hamilton and put a side in the Hampden Football Netball League (HFNL) next season.

McKew, who played 180 games with Imperials and is the captain of the century for the club, said if his old club did not amalgamate with Hamilton, then Imperials should put a stand-alone side in the HFNL next year.


“I know there will be plenty of people that will say Imps and Hamilton will never amalgamate but if footy is to grow in this region it’s got to happen,” he said.


“They must join the HFNL.”


The two-time Imperials premiership captain-coach believes if his former Western Border Football League (WBFL) club joins Hampden either by itself or merging with Hamilton, then Portland would follow.

Nice to see someone else jumping on the bandwagon - this will happen - very soon.

Imperials were denied to join the hampden league because they could not provide a genuine reason for leaving - plus the VCFL were doubtful they were financial enough to operate in the hampden league - same old story!!! so whats changed?
 
You've been trying to sell this for some time now and to no prevail. You have to have a genuine reason for weakening a league to strengthen another. The reasons being the club is too strong, not strong enough or for geographical reasons - you dont have a case for either of these. The western border also has to approve this - they wont !!!! And why would the 2 clubs merge? Hamilton have improved this year and imperials have alot of good kids coming through and I have heard of no financial problems on either clubs part. Clubs go up and down it is part of the cycle - we could see these 2 clubs dominating the league soon. At the moment you dont have a case to leave this league!!!

I have no axe to grind with the WBFL, but I am trying to look at the situation rationally from a long term health view. Hamilton is supporting way too many teams given its size, Imps haven't tried to come in on four occassions for no reason. Heywood has been struggling for 15 years or more. No doubt success is cyclical but it's also a function of available players and there just aren't the players around that there used to be.

The Hampden League has become essentially Warrnambool centric since Colac departed and eight teams is bare bones for a major league. I would suggest that overall travelling would be reduced given you would have games against Port Fairy, Koroit (Warrnambool x 3) Mortlake (Terang) with the only treks being to Cobden & Camperdown.

It seems pretty logical - to me anyway.
 
Simply form a new club, dont legally need to get a clearance from WBFL, the only requirement would be acceptance by Hampden and VCFL into there league. The way the VCFL is under pressure at the moment, they wont exist to much longer.AFL Victoria will soon have control of country footy, for the better. A merger with HFL would align with TAC cup boundaries, the new head of AFL Vic was the mastermind behind redistrubition of boundaries, a man with a great vision for footy. Hope it happens.
 
You've been trying to sell this for some time now and to no prevail. You have to have a genuine reason for weakening a league to strengthen another. The reasons being the club is too strong, not strong enough or for geographical reasons - you dont have a case for either of these. The western border also has to approve this - they wont !!!! And why would the 2 clubs merge? Hamilton have improved this year and imperials have alot of good kids coming through and I have heard of no financial problems on either clubs part. Clubs go up and down it is part of the cycle - we could see these 2 clubs dominating the league soon. At the moment you dont have a case to leave this league!!!
Hamilton have improved??? What i have witnessed is a lot of paid imports that dont give a stuff about team mates or opposition but take the cash and go. Hamilton will prob finish below Imps and scratch their head at what a financial disaster and embarrassment this season has been. One player in particular should be sacked if anyone at Hamilton had balls!
 
I have no axe to grind with the WBFL, but I am trying to look at the situation rationally from a long term health view. Hamilton is supporting way too many teams given its size, Imps haven't tried to come in on four occassions for no reason. Heywood has been struggling for 15 years or more. No doubt success is cyclical but it's also a function of available players and there just aren't the players around that there used to be.

The Hampden League has become essentially Warrnambool centric since Colac departed and eight teams is bare bones for a major league. I would suggest that overall travelling would be reduced given you would have games against Port Fairy, Koroit (Warrnambool x 3) Mortlake (Terang) with the only treks being to Cobden & Camperdown.

It seems pretty logical - to me anyway.

The argument of travel is a strange one I would think as any side from the Western Border joining the Hampden league would end up travelling more.
On the Heywood front I can confirm there has been quite a bit of talk at a supporter level of dropping back after this season, however it will be interesting to see if that talk continues following the happenings in the South West league last weekend, which highlighted the growing thug element that is currently being allowed to exist unchecked in that league. I suppose the question Heywood people must ask themselves now is what they are willing to trade for the possibility of their senior side enjoying some more onfield success. From what I can see it would appear the price would be their junior pathway, one netball side, major league club status and faith that they will be protected on the field.
 
While I was aware of the upcoming meeting to consider coming back to the South West League I was under the impression it was a player driven topic. It seems the last few years have been worse for voilent incidents in Western Victorian football with numerous investigations in the Hampden League resulting in several long suspensions , the Steve O , V Hockley , J Ryan incident last year. In the South West league over the last few years we have also had some issues. While there will be no winners to come out of last weekend at Noske Park ( no pun intended ) hopefully the right outcomes will be delivered tonight at the tribunual and subsequent investegations. Tyrendarra v Coleraine grand final 3 years ago had a fight between some players that if it wasn,t for the siren to end the game and the players to do the right thing and shake hands and go their seperate ways it had the potential to get nasty. Sadly common sense does not always prevail. The comment about the increasing thug element in the league perhaps tars us all. Umpires do not see everything ( I know you will mention why Jeremy Morton was in hospital before half time 2 weeks ago ) a head high tackle that was missed by both umpires , but it is the incidents that they see and ignore that is the increasing concern. The club I represent and am passionate about while not perfect , waits on the results of the investegations and response by our league officials and VCFL. Believe me LFB Tyrendarra would welcome a rivialry with Heywood and Heywood would thrive in the South West. Tyrendarra as you know have 12 or 13 , 16 / 17 year olds and they love playing in our league. Any way I have to log off and get ready for Auskick for the future South West footballers and netballers.
 
the easy way for the league to start fixing these thing would be to send them off, unfortunately some umpires will not do it because they wont go to the tribunal.

if you send of 2-3 players from each team each game, you will start seeing players play footy again instead of the violence and yes this wont work because umpire will get to trivial and pick any thing, surely we can find a happy medium
 
The argument of travel is a strange one I would think as any side from the Western Border joining the Hampden league would end up travelling more.
On the Heywood front I can confirm there has been quite a bit of talk at a supporter level of dropping back after this season, however it will be interesting to see if that talk continues following the happenings in the South West league last weekend, which highlighted the growing thug element that is currently being allowed to exist unchecked in that league. I suppose the question Heywood people must ask themselves now is what they are willing to trade for the possibility of their senior side enjoying some more onfield success. From what I can see it would appear the price would be their junior pathway, one netball side, major league club status and faith that they will be protected on the field.

little footy battler
11 Aug 2008, 10:04
Is this stuff on again? Ive benn hearing stories like this since 1994!!!

There is a reason this keeps popping up, but it is not what most people outside the story would think.
The SW league, much like the Hampden league, realise that the structure of their competitions would be stronger if they could add more teams to it. Heywood is geographically in a good position to join the SW league, so is an obvious target. From what I understand the gossip about that club joining the SW since the early to mid 90s has almost exclusively been started from South West sources, who have a vested interest, as creating instability in the Heywood club by spreading these rumours hampers that club's recruiting efforts by creating a feeling of uncertainty around the club's future, while also leaving some members within the Heywood club disallusioned as to where they stand in the club and if there are people in the club who are pushing in that direction covertly. From what I understand it has been very rare that there has actually been a Heywood member of any significance who has been interested in pursuing that move at any point in the club's history and I can assure all members on this site and in the public that the club will not at any point in the near future be making that move. The Heywood Football Netball Club would have too much to lose by making the move to the SW league and I am yet to be convinced they would have much, if anything, to gain other than some short term on field success, which is dubious in itself as a large portion of the playing group would not stay at the club to play lower level football. If the other members of the Western Border are serious when they say teams like Heywood and Imperials need to stay in the WB league for the betterment of that league, both clubs, in particular Heywood, need those members of other clubs to stop aiding the SW by keeping these unfounded rumours circulating.
Yes, the SW has made an offer, but did not even have the balls to comment on it when approached by the paper down this way, so they can't be real serious about wanting the club, can they? And while an offer has been made, there is NO danger the club will accept that offer. Period. So the next time someone brings it up to you in conversation, tell them it is untrue and if they persist tell them they are full of shite and vandalising our great competition, not just a battling footy club doing its best to stay a part of it.
 
sorry ive been away for a few weeks. just wondering how many weeks becker got for his latest incident. with his record it must have been at least 6-8??


i think portland will win the flag very easily. too good. they would have won last year too if things went right
 
Sad to see how much millicent have dropped off. If things go well Portland will have some good headaches at the selection table later in the year. Winis Imbi back in the seniors this week and his experience showed. Is there any West people on the forum....if so where are they at?
 

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