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You looking for a Powerpoint presentation Travvy?
If two players jumped the fence then of course the league has to get involved.You looking for a Powerpoint presentation Travvy?
No players jumped the fence. But the ball being kicked into a spectator was an accident. Ray did very well in an attempt to break it up and actually copped won for his effort, to his credit he told the bloke to get f____d and and laughed it off. Goes to show all you guys who get on his case that he is a bigger man than you give him credit. As for spotty people being scared i think this issue goes beyond that and the fact that supporters were willing to step in to break it up while certain cowards through punches while guys were occupied with trying to break it up is a disgrace. Shame on those supporters wanna be heroes.
As for ways to deal with this here are some possible solutions.
An agreement needs to be made with the league and the clubs that security or officials should be present at all games. I'm aware this is an added expense but instead of knocking the idea down lets work out a solution to make it happen.
Even if possible 2 police officers at the ground could even help alcohol abuse.
Just in the same way in which clubs provide a time keeper they should have to provide a camera person to tape the game. All grounds should have a central position where these cameras are set up such as the wing. This allows for good video positioning.
Lets not just sit and write off all solutions and find reasons why we can't deal with them. Lets start cleaning up the league cause with the way some score lines are and with incidents like these we will only go backwards.
To for the league to start stepping up to the plate and stop being soft!!
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I think the cost would be the problem to have 2 police officers at each game unless your spotty or YC who have plenty of the boys in blue at there clubs
Bloods. It did get out of hand.
Shitting bricks is a fair alternative to the situation getting to the point where a hundred people are involved and some poor bastard gets booted to death in the frenzy. We see it in international soccer where spectators get caught up in the heat of a large brawl and someone either dies or ends up in a coma.
From what I hear, anyone trying to diffuse it was in a bit of strife. No use having a large set of chops when their lying underneath a hospital gown.
Thunderball
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Wrong - 2 players jumped the fence as per umpire's report - tribunal an/or League to deal with as a matter of course
Jensen struck by "fridge" - Glenorden Captains (who was not playing)brother - Police and league to investigate
Murphy hit from behind by Glenorden Captain and his brother (see above)- Police and League to investigate
Glenorden to suspend their Captain !! and ban his brother from attending games until at least the end of the season - WRFL Radio show broadcasting from there next week !!
Footy - Spotty v PMC this week. No AFL or VFL games so should be a big crowd at McLean Reserve. StAlbans v Hoppers Xing as well. Both games to have a bearing on the makeup of the final 5.
Thunderball
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Sorry - forgot to mention - Glenorden Shit can make their own arrangements while the finals are on - Maybe a busload to visit their mates at Barwon Prison !!
Thunderball
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Sorry again - forgot to wish the personal from the Radio show all the best for the game on Saturday, particularly if Altona (as expected) are winning.
This gets a touch worse as more details come out. The league wont take too kindly to a registered player/captain getting involved. Then again, knowing the league, he'll get the ol 'naughty boy' couple of weeks.
Many of the suggestions that have been raised cost money and i am sure the league does not have a stack of money to throw around. If some of these strategies were put into place it would probably mean increased league affiliation fees for clubs and that would then mean increased membership fees for players.
Club themselves should be taking an active role in ensuring events of this nature dont take place.
EG
If there are alcohol abuse issues, committees should be enforcing the responsible service of alcohol.
If all clubs take a role in filtering out the badly behaved, then it will be for the betterment of the league.
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Agree.. if players jumped the fence or an umpire was abused some way off field in the clubrooms then the league should get involved. However a fight between supporters off the ground is predominately a club issue. The league may follow up with the club for a bit of a "Please explain" (in want of a different phrase) to ensure the issue has been dealt with a strategies have been put in place for it not to occur again.
Also to Red Devil.... good to see you back posting after 7 days off.
beeroclock
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So sick of people calling spotty soft. I was at the game against glenorden & right from the start glenorden tried to ruff spotty up. Spotty never took a back step & when given cheap shots like soft cowards do when players head over ball ,would stand up & give back to glenorden players to there face. Spotty footy club attract good footballers to there club to play football not to start fights or give cheap shots, thats why they been so successfull for so many years. What happened on weekend was a disgrace & should never of happened, i just hope that glenorden make the right decision & penalise the people involved because if they ever want to become succussful in division 1 & gain respect then it needs to start now. We dont need this shit in our comp anymore.
beeroclock
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Bale im sick of hearing you call spotty players copper dogs or laggers, just name 1 player who is a cop at spotty. There use to be a few & i can tell you they where prob the better blokes at the club. Time to move on bale those days are well past.
Trav
Clubs can conveniently sweep situations like this under the carpet. Many pass it off as the booze and then continue to serve it irresponsibly. It's all about the dollars and some clubs have no choice. Crowd and supporter behavior is more than likely going to become a league issue as the attempts to clean up the image of local footy becomes more of a priority.
Orden have taken some big steps in the last couple of years. They have some good people there and it would be a shame if nothing comes out of this and there's a repeat of it in the future. Make no mistake, the league will have to step in or be seen as irrelevant.
Thunderball
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Thanks for the correction. Yes only Port Melbourne v Bendigo play on the Saturday so should be a few interested people from the likes of Williamstown and Werribee
How would you go in a jack shop thunderball singing like a canary you known dog let the club & league handle it.Are you 30/30 in disguise looking for another payout you rat
I am not going to defend our supporters because they should be gracious in victory and defeat but in all honesty it was a couple of old drunk guys who were mouthing off and for port supporters and injured players to go over there was only going to start trouble.
we have coped it over the years about our supporters not travelling to away games but i didnt see many supporters from port there on Saturday, so i guess it is a common theme with most clubs.
our supporters a little unfairly have the worst rep in the league but i can remember reading on here that ports crowd gave it to spootty when they beat them at the start of the year but spotty were man enough to walk away.
i am not defending our supporters actions in any way.
about the game anyway it was a good hard game off footy with both teams wasting some opportunities in front of goal but in the end we were just lucky enough to be in front at the final siren.
better players for both sides were St Albans were Aguis,Brown,Hollow and Port Jacobs and young Campbell looked good
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Grizzley, thanks for your insightful and well worded retort. Better to post the facts than some of the previous inaccuracies. You are right though, let the League handle it.
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Yeah M D , your president & your a copper dog
& im sure theres plenty more down there i even heard spotty offered c nixon a 3 year deal she should be a great adittion come finals time
playsnogood
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Crowd violence should not be tolerated and all matters should be investigated fully and where possible criminal charges should follow. It isn't part of the game. But due to the courts being soft, the league has to be tough!!!
Glenorden were an incident waiting to happen, there have been several close calls where supporters have approached opposing teams at the breaks and after the games hurling abuse at them and being confrontational.
An incident while slightly more severe occurred several years ago in a country league, where there was an all in brawl prior to the match commencing, players and crowd involved and the game was called off. As a result the league kicked the team out! They had half a year off, won an appeal and got back in, but it made them clean up their supporters.
Banning supporters from going onto the ground would be a start.
You won't get police to alot of games as according to the papers, there are none!
Security may help, but I doubt it.
Taking a strong handed approach and banning the team for the rest of the season could send a very strong message. Giving the seniors a year off would be severe but if it happened again could be called for.
Not doing something would make the league responsible for any incidents that happen in the future, and they will happen.
There is nothing wrong with being passionate for your club, but if you use it as a way to release some stress, cos your missus left you when you yelled or belted her, then perhaps you need help from a higher authority!
Glenorden were an incident waiting to happen, there have been several close calls where supporters have approached opposing teams at the breaks and after the games hurling abuse at them and being confrontational.
An incident while slightly more severe occurred several years ago in a country league, where there was an all in brawl prior to the match commencing, players and crowd involved and the game was called off. As a result the league kicked the team out! They had half a year off, won an appeal and got back in, but it made them clean up their supporters.
Banning supporters from going onto the ground would be a start.
You won't get police to alot of games as according to the papers, there are none!
Security may help, but I doubt it.
Taking a strong handed approach and banning the team for the rest of the season could send a very strong message. Giving the seniors a year off would be severe but if it happened again could be called for.
Not doing something would make the league responsible for any incidents that happen in the future, and they will happen.
There is nothing wrong with being passionate for your club, but if you use it as a way to release some stress, cos your missus left you when you yelled or belted her, then perhaps you need help from a higher authority!
cork_in_the_ocean
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Wrong again av07. stop gettin ahead of yourself mate
At $40.00 bucks an hour x 4 minimum. $640 plus each week. Cheaper than the coppers but how clubs can come up with that amount every week? Although I'm willing to negotiate on prices. ha ha
Grizzley. Years ago clubs and leagues were trusted to control their crowds and it didn't work. The dollar overrides sensible decision making. Why else would clubs set up make shift bars outside the club rooms? From all reports this wasn't two groups of supporters having a dust up. As a club, you can't ban anyone from turning to council park lands to watch a game of footy or drink their own beer while they're doing it. I'm sure the Glenorden will deal with it as best they can but their best won't stop this from happening again once blokes have had a skin full. I'd hate to see us go down the line of the VAFA a few years back and ban alcohol from games but it's a possibility.
Dogs, singing like a canary, rats, payouts? This aint Underbelly or the God Father. Clubs have been too soft in the past, haven't rid themselves of trouble makers or done enough to discourage bad behavior. Most of those clubs could be struggling too survive, playing in a crap division or aren't around anymore.
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On a completley different note: with the split round and interstate footy games in the AFL, again, the WRFL is presented with a chance to host a Division one night game on Friday or Saturday night.
What is the main deterant for this not going ahead as they have proven to be highly successful.
Most Division one clubs have the facilities. Why not use them. Im sure that the clubs involved would be better off and it would make for a good spectacle.
What is the main deterant for this not going ahead as they have proven to be highly successful.
Most Division one clubs have the facilities. Why not use them. Im sure that the clubs involved would be better off and it would make for a good spectacle.
From what I understand of the league most clubs come up with significants amount of $$ to pay their players each week. If clubs truly want to support the development of the sport and the league maybe clubs need to prioritise their spending and take security seriously. Am sick of hearing clubs crying poor, wanting councils to provide better lights and other facilities for them yet are irresponsible in paying overrated hacks to play football. Its a catch 22 I know as clubs need to spend to remain competitive - reinforces the argument for league salary cap/points systemAt $40.00 bucks an hour x 4 minimum. $640 plus each week. Cheaper than the coppers but how clubs can come up with that amount every week? Although I'm willing to negotiate on prices. ha ha
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Dont think the points/ salary cap would work, but if a club spends the money on security and gets a safer and more enjoyable feel to the club, a few more people might go and watch. Maybe a few more women and childeren, and maybe that short term pain of spending could turn into a long term gain??? maybe...
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