What AFL record will stand forever?

[Wallaby]

St Kilda's 98 losses from 100 matches 1897-1903.
They were only in the League because:
1. They played at a ground (the St Kilda Cricket Ground) which was very well located regarding public transport.
2. Their players were regarded as 'very nice chaps' and 'good sports'.
3. Their rival for a place in the league, Port Melbourne were regarded as 'unsporting thugs'!

Well, GWS only won 3 of their first 44 matches (not quite as bad admittedly), but:

They were only in the League because:
1. They played in a region where no one was interested in the game at all, but the organising body (AFL) was thinking primarily about potential TV revenue.
2. There were 17 teams in the league, and adding another club meant an extra game each week, meaning more potential TV revenue.
3. Their rivals for a place in the league (Tasmania), despite having had an australian football culture lasting 160 years, producing multiple premiership captains, Brownlow medallists, Coleman Medallists and other egendary players at the highest level, were deemed to provide less potential TV revenue.

 

[Billy ray]

Whats the record (both games played and time (days) for time between a first win against a club and the second win against a club?

Eg suns beat port in 2011 and havent again since

 

[Purple Suit]

Getting fined for tanking but being found not guilty of tanking at same time?

How about Adelaide coping the penalty since their assistant coach was suspended.

 

[Breretonisahood]

Peter Hudson’s 5.64 goals per game average. Modern day 2-3 per game is elite.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

How about Adelaide coping the penalty since their assistant coach was suspended.

Same happened to Carlton when Greg Williams came to us. Sydney and Williams were punished over some salary related thing, but Williams suspension was announced after he joined us.

 

[North park]

Whats the record (both games played and time (days) for time between a first win against a club and the second win against a club?

Eg suns beat port in 2011 and havent again since

That would have to be North Melbourne against Geelong.

North Melbourne beat Geelong by 8 points in its first ever match in the VFL on 2 May 1925. Geelong then won the next 23 games between the two teams before North triumphed again in Round 18 of 1939 (played on 2 September).

So 24 games between wins for North Melbourne over a period of 14 years and 4 months.

 

[speedpeck23]

Winningest Player Ever.... Michael Tuck Played 426 Won 302 games.....next closest Shaun Burgoyne

9

Shaun Burgoyne

Age

41

Ht

186cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.0

4star

K

9.9

4star

HB

8.1

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.8

5star

MG

162.7

3star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

2.6

4star

MG

162.7

3star

D

6.2

2star

K

3.2

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

1.2

2star

T

1.6

4star

263 Wins, KB 260 Wins. Not to mention the 7 Premierships, 11 Grand Finals. Plus Pre Season Cups and 1 Reserves Premiership

 

[blueboy25]

It will be hard to see anyone reach 400 games.

About to see our 3rd player go past the 400 game mark since this comment

 

[speedpeck23]

About to see our 3rd player go past the 400 game mark since this comment

Great effort ? how many wins.

 

[scotty13]

Peter Hudson’s 5.64 goals per game average. Modern day 2-3 per game is elite.

Geez imagine having 69 shots at goal per game and only kicking 5 of them...

 

[JackFlash]

1) 150 goals in a season ( Bob Pratt & Peter Hudson
2) Most Grand Final appearance by a player (11) Michael Tuck
3) Most Grand Finals as a coach (17) Jock McHale

 

[sobrave]

Ken "daddy donuts" Hinkley coaching 260 games at one club without making a grand final.

No one will ever beat that one

 

[PerthBoy86]

Peter Hudson’s 5.64 goals per game average. Modern day 2-3 per game is elite.

Back when most full forwards rarely left forward 50.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Same happened to Carlton when Greg Williams came to us. Sydney and Williams were punished over some salary related thing, but Williams suspension was announced after he joined us.

Reckon the blues would still do the deal, they did well from Williams

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Reckon the blues would still do the deal, they did well from Williams

Oh, for sure but it put a dent in that season. Pretty sure we only missed the top 6 on percentage that year.

 

[Freomaniac]

Hard to see anyone coming close to Michael Tuck's eleven grand final appearances as a player.

yet Boomer harvey broke his 426 game record. Impressive stat.

 

[BF Tiger]

Winningest Player Ever.... Michael Tuck Played 426 Won 302 games.....next closest Shaun Burgoyne 263 Wins, KB 260 Wins. Not to mention the 7 Premierships, 11 Grand Finals. Plus Pre Season Cups and 1 Reserves Premiership

How is Michael Tuck not a Legend.

Really deserves to be celebrated more.

 

[GoldbergsGold]

length of a single quarter?
When buddy broke that record?

That's not the longest quarter record, that round 10 1996 Essendon against St Kilda match had the longest quarter that spanned 3 days.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

yet Boomer harvey broke his 426 game record. Impressive stat.

Absolutely, but I guess Boomer (3), Burgoyne (6), Pendlebury (5 - even if you want to count the 2010 replay, which is BS) and Fletcher (3) demonstrate how unobtainable 11 grand final appearances is. I may have some of those figures wrong, that's just off the top of my head how many times their team made a grand final while they were on the list, not sure if there were any misses through injury or whatever.

Boomer, Fletcher and Pendles have all played 400 games (Pendlebury on the cusp) they all had/have had what would be considered very successful careers and yet they only match Tuck for GF appearances combined if you give Pendles 'Two for the price of one' credit for 2010.

Looking at it another way - Geelong has probably featured in as many grand finals as anyone since I've been following the game and you have to go back nearly 60 years to reach their last 11 grand final appearances. You have to go back 35 years for Hawthorn. For Collingwood it's - what - 1977? What chance does anyone have of making 11 GFs in a career where only half a dozen or so players in the history of the league would have played for 20 years?

How is Michael Tuck not a Legend.

Really deserves to be celebrated more.

I think there's two factors here, Tuck was probably slightly before my time, so happy to be corrected.

1. This is no knock on Jason Dunstall on anyone else, I think it's just a fact: if Tuck and Dunstall's post football careers were switched around (I.e. Tuck featuring as a host, panellist and commentator on the weekly football coverage and serving in various senior/board roles with Hawthorn), I think Tuck would be the one with Legend status.

2. (Again, this is the one I'm not sure about) I don't recall Tuck really being discussed in the late-stages of his career as one of the absolute superstars of the competition, or even as the best player in his team. I'm sure it was partly because he was past his prime, but it seemed like Dunstall, Platten, Ayres, Brereton and Langford got most of the attention and would have been the players who'd have been mentioned at the top end of 'Top 50' lists back in the day (not sure if they were a thing, but I doubt it).

That Hawthorn team was stacked with stars: you can add the likes of Dipper, Buckenara, Mew, Wallace, Greene, Pritchard and Collins at different times during the 1983-91 era, combined with the twilight of champions like Knights and Matthews at the start of that run and you probably had half of Hawthorn's team who were the best in the comp - or close enough to it - at their position.

 

[Catsace]

Whats the record (both games played and time (days) for time between a first win against a club and the second win against a club?

Eg suns beat port in 2011 and havent again since

Geelong lost to North Melbourne in the opening round of 1925, indeed that was North's first ever match. But their second win was in 1939 in Round 18, indeed given the time difference about the same time the Wehrmacht invaded Poland. Geelong had won the previous 23 matches.

 

[_Mike_]

Fanning's 18 goal game record. I dont think that will ever be broken due to the way the game is played today

 

[speedpeck23]

Absolutely, but I guess Boomer (3), Burgoyne (6), Pendlebury (5 - even if you want to count the 2010 replay, which is BS) and Fletcher (3) demonstrate how unobtainable 11 grand final appearances is. I may have some of those figures wrong, that's just off the top of my head how many times their team made a grand final while they were on the list, not sure if there were any misses through injury or whatever.

Boomer, Fletcher and Pendles have all played 400 games (Pendlebury on the cusp) they all had/have had what would be considered very successful careers and yet they only match Tuck for GF appearances combined if you give Pendles 'Two for the price of one' credit for 2010.

Looking at it another way - Geelong has probably featured in as many grand finals as anyone since I've been following the game and you have to go back nearly 60 years to reach their last 11 grand final appearances. You have to go back 35 years for Hawthorn. For Collingwood it's - what - 1977? What chance does anyone have of making 11 GFs in a career where only half a dozen or so players in the history of the league would have played for 20 years?



I think there's two factors here, Tuck was probably slightly before my time, so happy to be corrected.

1. This is no knock on Jason Dunstall on anyone else, I think it's just a fact: if Tuck and Dunstall's post football careers were switched around (I.e. Tuck featuring as a host, panellist and commentator on the weekly football coverage and serving in various senior/board roles with Hawthorn), I think Tuck would be the one with Legend status.

2. (Again, this is the one I'm not sure about) I don't recall Tuck really being discussed in the late-stages of his career as one of the absolute superstars of the competition, or even as the best player in his team. I'm sure it was partly because he was past his prime, but it seemed like Dunstall, Platten, Ayres, Brereton and Langford got most of the attention and would have been the players who'd have been mentioned at the top end of 'Top 50' lists back in the day (not sure if they were a thing, but I doubt it).

That Hawthorn team was stacked with stars: you can add the likes of Dipper, Buckenara, Mew, Wallace, Greene, Pritchard and Collins at different times during the 1983-91 era, combined with the twilight of champions like Knights and Matthews at the start of that run and you probably had half of Hawthorn's team who were the best in the comp - or close enough to it - at their position.

There were a lot of stars at Hawthorn during Tucks career, virtually the whole time he played.....Never won a Best and Fairest at the Club....8 times Runner Up....Matthews usually won it.

 

[speedpeck23]

First 3 kicks in 1st game...3 goals.....again Michael Tuck......maybe that's not a record....

 

[ioppolo]

First 3 kicks in 1st game...3 goals.....again Michael Tuck......maybe that's not a record....

John Butcher has this I think? 6 kicks for 6 goals.

 

[SC_Power]

First 3 kicks in 1st game...3 goals.....again Michael Tuck......maybe that's not a record....

Daniel Metropolis kicked 4 goals with his first 4 kicks in his first game, for WC v StKilda in 1992.