What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 3

[fred cook]

Frydenberg can suck my big toe.
And the club can kiss my arse for agreeing to this bullshit publicity stunt before an election. We are a working class club with working class values.

Josh probably needed Google maps to find the ******* place.

Could not be more disillusioned with the leadership on and off the field for the club. Wouldn't have happened with Gordon in charge.

I bet our corporate loving President of our club had a coffee after the meeting with Frydenberg to discuss the latest Disney share price

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Two of my favourite people
Can’t have too many Baileys and Joshes around the club




This should get ‘em going

 

[Roogal]

Look if they are elected and as long as Mr Freydenberg coughs up the promised $15 mil, the club comes out the better. Beggars can't be choosers, particularly while much of the rest of Victoria is begging. The club has done very well so far to secure Federal and State Government assistance to rebuild VUWO. I'm personally amazed that a Federal Liberal has actually come anywhere near Melbourne. They're throwing all of the limited election promises funds at Queensland and marginal seats in Tassie and WA. I even had a giggle when ScoMo yesterday promised to create 450,000 regional jobs while campaigning on the Sunshine Coast of Queensland. He didn't actually commit any funding to do that or tell anybody how it was going to be done, just that his government were going to create 450,000 regional jobs. I think that ATM there is a labour shortage across regional Australia of about 250,000 so really it's a false promise in that all that the government have to do is to let in more migrants and those jobs will be automatically filled and they can later take the credit claiming that their policies have so far achieved 60% of the aim without them actually having lifted a finger or a single cent having been spent. But it sounded good and impressive in terms of grand announcements and it got ScoMo his five minute news grab on the news broadcasts last night.

I noted in the Ballarat Courier two days ago that not a single Federal Polly (with exception of the local MP Catherine King) has been anywhere near Ballarat to campaign and that the total sum of election promises for Ballarat total um ... Shall we say - a nice round figure

Thank God that Ballarat has Dan Andrews in its corner, otherwise it would have nothing these days (No new hospital, no cancer treatment and research centre, no Mars Stadium, no Selkirk Stadium, no railway yards redevelopment, no GovHub, no rebuilt high schools or new tech school, no Comm Games, no upgraded railways - ALL have been entirely STATE FUNDED since 2014) .

So rather than Bulldogs supporters being too cynical about the motives of the Federal Treasurer, instead try and look on the Bright side. The Western Bulldogs Football Club have gotten $15 million more than the entire Federal Electorate of Ballarat and many other electorates across Victoria for that matter. That said, Ballarat and many other Victorian seats are uber safe Labor (and in some instances safe Coalition) seats so the good people of those electorates shouldn't expect shite Federally because their votes don't have to be bought or secured by either party

Rather than be upset about this, we should celebrate any funding that the club or electorate can secure. That's just how things work, and while others may not understand or bemoan the inequity of Federal funding, I totally get it.

 

[Custard Guts]

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[dogwatch]

Our club would be letting itself, its members and its players and staff down if it refused to seek funding from whoever was in government purely on political leaning.

I am proud that we have a club with a social conscience but we are not a political organisation. Our primary aims are to field football teams, win flags and promote Australian football.

The cost of accepting funding in an even handed way is that we must allow the benefactor their photo opportunity. Every club does it. Everybody understands that’s the charade that must be played.

We need to understand that even in a predominantly Labor territory like the western suburbs at least a third of our supporters, club officials and players are likely to be conservative politically. That includes here on BF too. That doesn’t make them bad people or somehow disqualify them from being part of the Bulldog family. Most of them are good honest people.

Embrace the diversity. And take the money. It’s no more tainted than money from any other government.

Go Dogs!

 

[Roogal]

Our club would be letting itself, its members and its players and staff down if it refused to seek funding from whoever was in government purely on political leaning.

I am proud that we have a club with a social conscience but we are not a political organisation. Our primary aims are to field football teams, win flags and promote Australian football.

The cost of accepting funding in an even handed way is that we must allow the benefactor their photo opportunity. Every club does it. Everybody understands that’s the charade that must be played.

We need to understand that even in a predominantly Labor territory like the western suburbs at least a third of our supporters, club officials and players are likely to be conservative politically. That includes here on BF too. That doesn’t make them bad people or somehow disqualify them from being part of the Bulldog family. Most of them are good honest people.

Embrace the diversity. And take the money. It’s no more tainted than money from any other government.

Go Dogs!

Exactly right, and the club has equally accepted funding from the State Labor Government to fund new lighting and the gifting of former Crown Land upon which it will expand facilities and VUWO amenity. So there's really no issue.

For the record Josh is a dyed in the wool Carlton supporter.

 

[immortalmike]

Our club would be letting itself, its members and its players and staff down if it refused to seek funding from whoever was in government purely on political leaning.

I am proud that we have a club with a social conscience but we are not a political organisation. Our primary aims are to field football teams, win flags and promote Australian football.

The cost of accepting funding in an even handed way is that we must allow the benefactor their photo opportunity. Every club does it. Everybody understands that’s the charade that must be played.

We need to understand that even in a predominantly Labor territory like the western suburbs at least a third of our supporters, club officials and players are likely to be conservative politically. That includes here on BF too. That doesn’t make them bad people or somehow disqualify them from being part of the Bulldog family. Most of them are good honest people.

Embrace the diversity. And take the money. It’s no more tainted than money from any other government.

Go Dogs!

I would argue participation in these photo opportunities especially prior to an election (not when it was announced with the budget) precisely makes us political.

You are acting like anyone is arguing that money shouldn't be taken. That isn't the case. The bullshit that surrounds it is the problem and I'm not sure how many times I have to rephrase that before people such as yourself get it.

This makes the club lose far more social . I certainly view our leadership in a worse light because of it. Have a look at what happened to the CEO of the Vic guide dogs as an example. It is a completely boneheaded move at this stage and I genuinely expect and hope the club receives its due backlash because of it.

 

[Foxman98]

I would argue participation in these photo opportunities especially prior to an election (not when it was announced with the budget) precisely makes us political.

You are acting like anyone is arguing that money shouldn't be taken. That isn't the case. The bullshit that surrounds it is the problem and I'm not sure how many times I have to rephrase that before people such as yourself get it.

This makes the club lose far more social . I certainly view our leadership in a worse light because of it. Have a look at what happened to the CEO of the Vic guide dogs as an example. It is a completely boneheaded move at this stage and I genuinely expect and hope the club receives its due backlash because of it.

The only backlash the club will receive is from far left snowflakes like you. Most of us don't like Frydo or the feds at the moment but if a little photo op in a labour stronghold is what it takes for some money to help redevelop the ground its no big deal. Storm in a tea cup my friend

 

[immortalmike]

The only backlash the club will receive is from far left snowflakes like you. Most of us don't like Frydo or the feds at the moment but if a little photo op in a labour stronghold is what it takes for some money to help redevelop the ground its no big deal. Storm in a tea cup my friend

Calling me a far left snowflake is akin to calling Caleb Daniel a ruckman.
You don't know who you're speaking to sweetheart.

 

[footscray1973]

I would argue participation in these photo opportunities especially prior to an election (not when it was announced with the budget) precisely makes us political.

You are acting like anyone is arguing that money shouldn't be taken. That isn't the case. The bullshit that surrounds it is the problem and I'm not sure how many times I have to rephrase that before people such as yourself get it.

This makes the club lose far more social . I certainly view our leadership in a worse light because of it. Have a look at what happened to the CEO of the Vic guide dogs as an example. It is a completely boneheaded move at this stage and I genuinely expect and hope the club receives its due backlash because of it.

Long bow mike.

The Guide Dogs CEO specifically endorsed Frydenburg and implied her organisation was also doing it by including her job title twice and a photo with a guide dog puppy.

There is no endorsement implied by our club of any party, just an acceptance of a financial commitment. We have done the same at Mars with Juliana Addison now (local Ballarat state MP) several times in recent years.

I will say I don't like the photo of Baz with Frydenburg though - maybe Baz is naïve about pollies, club should have ensured only leadership (CEO, coach, captain, etc) are photographed for any of these announcements, or if other players are included, then only in the official announcement group photo.

Other than that, sorry I wholeheartedly agree with dogwatch, Roogal and others (but definitely not Dogs_R_Us in his last post).

Edit: I get your distinction between photo opportunity and money, I just don't think it is an issue in this case.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Exactly right, and the club has equally accepted funding from the State Labor Government to fund new lighting and the gifting of former Crown Land upon which it will expand facilities and VUWO amenity. So there's really no issue.

$36million in 2020

Josh is the member for Kooyong. Most pollies are campaigning in their seats and home states.

 

[Prince Imperial]

We need to understand that even in a predominantly Labor territory like the western suburbs at least a third of our supporters, club officials and players are likely to be conservative politically. That includes here on BF too. That doesn’t make them bad people or somehow disqualify them from being part of the Bulldog family. Most of them are good honest people.

Embrace the diversity. And take the money. It’s no more tainted than money from any other government.

Go Dogs!

Spot on. Back in 2014 polling unsurprisingly showed that we were the least politically conservative supporter group in Victoria. Nationally, I suspect only Port Adelaide are at or near our level in this regard.

We are a small club and our right wing supporters are more likely to have more dosh and we need their support.

Vote Compass: How do fans of your AFL team lean politically?

Vote Compass reveals where you sit on the political spectrum compared to supporters of your AFL team.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Long bow mike.

The Guide Dogs CEO specifically endorsed Frydenburg and implied her organisation was also doing it by including her job title twice and a photo with a guide dog puppy.

There is no endorsement implied by our club of any party, just an acceptance of a financial commitment. We have done the same at Mars with Juliana Addison now (local Ballarat state MP) several times in recent years.

I will say I don't like the photo of Baz with Frydenburg though - maybe Baz is naïve about pollies, club should have ensured only leadership (CEO, coach, captain, etc) are photographed for any of these announcements, or if other players are included, then only in the official announcement group photo.

Other than that, sorry I wholeheartedly agree with dogwatch, Roogal and others (but definitely not Dogs_R_Us in his last post).

Edit: I get your distinction between photo opportunity and money, I just don't think it is an issue in this case.

You don't agree with me! I'm shocked . Josh's comment on the photo was that he wanted to know Baz's secret to growing hair. All a bit of fun. Do you remember what that is?
You people... (shakes head sadly)

 

[Draft Pick]

It must be said that the Howard govt provided a large chunk of the funds for the Training Centre upgrade leading into the 2004 election.

Howard went out to the Whitten Oval for photos as well.

How John Howard came to the aid of the Western Bulldogs

The Howard government's $8 million package in 2004 helped the Western Bulldogs survive. Today, the club is thriving.

www.afr.com

Don’t recall any backlash from the supporter base then.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Young gun Darcy close to playing for Dogs

Sam Darcy, the son of Western Bulldogs great Luke, is over the foot troubles that have halted his first AFL season and will soon play in the club's reserves.

thewest.com.au

 

[Norm De Guerre]

Who cares if the LNP get a photo op at Whitten Oval?

The important thing is that funding for the future expansion of the club and its facilities are secured.

I very much doubt that the announcement swings a single vote and if it did then that voter is a moron.

This is not a hill I'd bother planting my ideological flag on.

Smile for the camera. Cash the cheque. Move on.

 

[footscray1973]

You don't agree with me! I'm shocked . Josh's comment on the photo was that he wanted to know Baz's secret to growing hair. All a bit of fun. Do you remember what that is?
You people... (shakes head sadly)

I'd be equally as disappointed if Baz posted a photo like that with Shorten, Bandt or a UAP numpty.

Thanks for projecting what you think my life or sense of fun are like though. Says more about you than me. GFY.

 

[Foxman98]

I'd be equally as disappointed if Baz posted a photo like that with Shorten, Bandt or a UAP numpty.

Thanks for projecting what you think my life or sense of fun are like though. Says more about you than me. GFY.

I'm sorry but what is the issue with Baz taking a photo with him? He has no club gear on so not sure what the issue is

 

[Virgin Dog]

Genuine question regarding the funding - is this an election promise (i.e. we only get it if the Libs stay in power), is this one of those cases like the $2bn Bushfire Recovery fund (never existed in the first place), or is it guaranteed that this funding is coming?

I just want to know whether this is something to be excited about.

 

[immortalmike]

Genuine question regarding the funding - is this an election promise (i.e. we only get it if the Libs stay in power), is this one of those cases like the $2bn Bushfire Recovery fund (never existed in the first place), or is it guaranteed that this funding is coming?

I just want to know whether this is something to be excited about.

My understanding is that is was part of the federal budget so is locked in no matter who wins in a few weeks.

 

[MYOB]

And this is why I thought any political conversations were not allowed on this forum

 

[hutchy31]

Got to love BF - reading through the preceding conversation and my banner ads are for someone called Anne Webster, who's running for the Nationals in Mallee.....

 

[ScragCity]

I hate the LNP but if they offered me enough money I'd go work on their propaganda team in a heartbeat

 

[Virgin Dog]

My understanding is that is was part of the federal budget so is locked in no matter who wins in a few weeks.

That's great to hear then. Always so wary whenever any political party makes these types of announcements so close to an election

 

[Mofra]

I would argue participation in these photo opportunities especially prior to an election (not when it was announced with the budget) precisely makes us political.

You are acting like anyone is arguing that money shouldn't be taken. That isn't the case. The bullshit that surrounds it is the problem and I'm not sure how many times I have to rephrase that before people such as yourself get it.

This makes the club lose far more social . I certainly view our leadership in a worse light because of it. Have a look at what happened to the CEO of the Vic guide dogs as an example. It is a completely boneheaded move at this stage and I genuinely expect and hope the club receives its due backlash because of it.

Not quite apples & apples though.

The Guide Dogs:

• Got around $3.5m in donations and a multi million dollar jobkeeper payment from the federal government
• The management team voted themselves a 10% payrise in Dec 2021
• Retain a legal team which has as it's partner... Gai Frydenberg

It's smelly.

The WO announcement is a Government fluff promise that may or may not be kept, and probably won't be honoured if Labor get in.