Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

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Not saying the club should have held them. But in not getting in the way of the players leaving, that is a decision and a strategy in itself.
Nothing new with Rioli and Bolton. We've done the same thing with a bunch of other players the past few years (Ellis, Higgins, Coleman-Jones, Chol, Soldo etc.) in not playing hardball and holding guys to contracts or terms they don't want. It makes us way easier to trade with as we're not going to play games or withhold information (looking at you Carlton/Essendon), and doesn't leave players with a bad taste in their mouth about us when they go to other clubs.
 
Nothing new with Rioli and Bolton. We've done the same thing with a bunch of other players the past few years (Ellis, Higgins, Coleman-Jones, Chol, Soldo etc.) in not playing hardball and holding guys to contracts or terms they don't want. It makes us way easier to trade with as we're not going to play games or withhold information (looking at you Carlton/Essendon), and doesn't leave players with a bad taste in their mouth about us when they go to other clubs.
I take it you are talking about Chris Yarran? The player Richmond were tapping up for months when he was under contract?

Can you tell me what the Club Dr's responsibilities are in this instance. I would have thought patient/dr confidentiality would be involved here.

Wouldn't the onus be on Richmond to do their due diligence on the player they were tapping up?
 
Marks should only be paid in the 50's.

Throw ins ruin the game and a wall should be put up like in ice hockey.

A wild horse should be let onto the ground in play during boring matches. Let's see how courageous you are going back with the flight when Phar Lap is lurking.
Not sure if it's unpopular, but backwards marking should be abolished and should just be play on. I think some preseason games trialled it, would really stop icing of matches, would make players have to take the game on until the end.
 
If the stadium has a roof it should be closed. Couldn't care less if the ground was built in the perfect position for the sun. Why would any sports fan be against seeing their sport played in the most perfect conditions?
It actually makes the most sense to close it, but it just looks horrible with it closed without the natural lighting. It makes me envy The MCG matches even more, lol.
 
So what would you consider a extreme case?
Throwing the ball away in a completely different direction, really delaying a significant amount of time holding onto the ball or hanging onto a player for far too long after they've marked the ball (but give the player a chance to actually hear the call). Not 50s when the players throw the ball back and it lobs slightly, they're so trigger happy giving out 50s. They even give out 50s for throwing their hands in the air, it's terrible.
 
'Clubs aren't loyal so neither should you be.'

Usually applied to guys who have at least three contract offers on hand.

Clubs are actually quite loyal. how many players are given an effective 'sort your stuff out for the next eight months' and are placed on a rookie list? clubs also keep guys on their VFL list for the next year or two, or get them into junior or womens programs. Freo delisted some total spud the other month and within a few weeks it was announced he was joining the staff.

AFL clubs give you so many connections and opportunities, just because they delisted someone who showed nothing means nothing – there's also the fact that a lot of delistings happen for very reasonable reasons (they care more about being 'an AFL player' than a good footballer; drugs and alcohol issues; their heart isn't in it).
 
Not sure if it's unpopular, but backwards marking should be abolished and should just be play on. I think some preseason games trialled it, would really stop icing of matches, would make players have to take the game on until the end.
I don’t know whether this is unpopular or not either, but it’s an interesting idea. Would absolutely raise the adrenaline for watchers if you don’t have to watch time killing crap for the last five minutes by the team out by two goals.
 
I don’t know whether this is unpopular or not either, but it’s an interesting idea. Would absolutely raise the adrenaline for watchers if you don’t have to watch time killing crap for the last five minutes by the team out by two goals.

We're forever changing rules to try and counteract trends in how the game is played.

Slowing the game down and playing keepings off has been going on forever. There are still the same number of players on the same size field as there were 50 years ago, and players are fitter than ever. If there are 5 minutes left and you are standing in a defensive zone defending a patch of grass while your opponent plays kick to kick then you deserve to lose.
 

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We're forever changing rules to try and counteract trends in how the game is played.

Slowing the game down and playing keepings off has been going on forever. There are still the same number of players on the same size field as there were 50 years ago, and players are fitter than ever. If there are 5 minutes left and you are standing in a defensive zone defending a patch of grass while your opponent plays kick to kick then you deserve to lose.
Fair enough. I don’t have great solutions to any of the game’s challenges.
 
I take it you are talking about Chris Yarran? The player Richmond were tapping up for months when he was under contract?

Can you tell me what the Club Dr's responsibilities are in this instance. I would have thought patient/dr confidentiality would be involved here.

Wouldn't the onus be on Richmond to do their due diligence on the player they were tapping up?
Yep. Blues completely ****ed us over with that trade. Unsurprisingly we haven't traded with them again cause they're untrustworthy. It was shady car salesman type stuff in selling us a lemon fully knowing what it was. We should've done more due diligence, but likewise the Blues should've been transparent. Scumbag club.

The fact is all the list managers would know each other. Same with any other business, you prefer to do deals with people you like and respect.
 
We're forever changing rules to try and counteract trends in how the game is played.

Slowing the game down and playing keepings off has been going on forever. There are still the same number of players on the same size field as there were 50 years ago, and players are fitter than ever. If there are 5 minutes left and you are standing in a defensive zone defending a patch of grass while your opponent plays kick to kick then you deserve to lose.
If they're so insistent on changing rules, the no marking backwards rule should have been the rule that was changed, rather than those other terrible changes. It would create real suspense and actual contests when going defensive, because they can't ice things and there's no longer a huge advantage from going backwards. Should also make rushed behinds just a throw in or a ball up 30 metres away from the middle of the goal line, so it rids the advantage of rushing the ball, and creates another defensive contest.
 
We're forever changing rules to try and counteract trends in how the game is played.

Slowing the game down and playing keepings off has been going on forever. There are still the same number of players on the same size field as there were 50 years ago, and players are fitter than ever. If there are 5 minutes left and you are standing in a defensive zone defending a patch of grass while your opponent plays kick to kick then you deserve to lose.

Not an unpopular view though.
Rule changes never seem to have to justify themselves
 
Yep. Blues completely ****ed us over with that trade. Unsurprisingly we haven't traded with them again cause they're untrustworthy. It was shady car salesman type stuff in selling us a lemon fully knowing what it was. We should've done more due diligence, but likewise the Blues should've been transparent. Scumbag club.

The fact is all the list managers would know each other. Same with any other business, you prefer to do deals with people you like and respect.
Once again, would the club and the club doctor be breaking doctor/patient confidentiality by letting Richmond know about his issues?

Did you expect them to come out and say "hey Richmond, the guy you have been tapping up all year behind our back has drug issues"?

So are you saying Richmond won't do business with St Kilda now because their list manager was Carlton's list manager at the time?
 
Not sure if it's unpopular, but backwards marking should be abolished and should just be play on. I think some preseason games trialled it, would really stop icing of matches, would make players have to take the game on until the end.

I remember someone (maybe Sam Newman) bringing this up a very long time ago, it's very good
 
I remember someone (maybe Sam Newman) bringing this up a very long time ago, it's very good
It went far beyond "someone bringing it up" as a suggestion - it was literally in the rules of the pre-season competition over several years
 
Once again, would the club and the club doctor be breaking doctor/patient confidentiality by letting Richmond know about his issues?

Did you expect them to come out and say "hey Richmond, the guy you have been tapping up all year behind our back has drug issues"?

So are you saying Richmond won't do business with St Kilda now because their list manager was Carlton's list manager at the time?
Not sure. There's probably info about what constitutes fair trade / transparency policies buried somewhere in contracts/terms of agreements etc., but none of us are likely privy to that.

I can't recall another instance recently where a team has traded a player in for a decently high pick and the guy didn't play a game. Don't remember us courting him throughout the year, the trade was done super late. We actually took care of him in his contract payout when we could've left him nothing.

It's just shady trading business.
 
It went far beyond "someone bringing it up" as a suggestion - it was literally in the rules of the pre-season competition over several years

but I remember someone bringing it up
 

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