What would a Dutton Liberal leadership mean for the Liberals and the country?

[Ghost Patrol]

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Jane Hume was wheeled out on RN this morning. She said that the Coalition would 'rightsize' government and that government spending is crowding out the private sector.

Absolute bullshit. The Great Depression, Second World War, postwar boom and covid pandemic showed that Keynesian economics works. Government spending stimulates the private sector by creating demand, not the opposite. More ideological crap not backed up by evidence. The LNP's schtick.

It’s so dishonest.

 

[Rotayjay]

Of course the Coalition doesn't mind when profits are up much more than ages. Sounding Marxist, they are for the capitalist class, not the working or middle classes.

In their eyes, it's right and just for business owners to make 20% more money while employees make 10% more, or none, because employees are plebs and employers are superior patricians like them. I believe both employees and employers work hard, and it's right and just for them to share any increases in profit.

 

[QuietB]

But but the mega is telling me stridently that there’s a world wide right wing renaissance against progressive?

There is a global movement to xenophobic Nationalism.

The Liberals have always excelled in that environment.

 

[peetoo]

There is a global movement to xenophobic Nationalism.

The Liberals have always excelled in that environment.

But is there? All I see is meeja which gives more and more eye rolls as time goes on

 

[Saint]

There is a global movement to xenophobic Nationalism.

The Liberals have always excelled in that environment.

Is it really a movement, or is it just the same reactionary conservatives have found a new language and figured out how to amplify their racism on Social media without backlash?

Is it not just racist rage bait being amplified by rage clicks and algorithims which promote anger and division?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Is it really a movement, or is it just the same reactionary conservatives have found a new language and figured out how to amplify their racism on Social media without backlash?

Is it not just racist rage bait being amplified by rage clicks and algorithims which promote anger and division?

I think it’s both. Malign feedback loop.

 

[Juddism]

Mate I've lived in different parts of Melbourne so I've been out an about and I know exactly what the outer East for example think in regards to the Labor Party so any excuse to not vote for them they will. As illinformed and as uneducated as you can get. All they care about is getting pissed on weekends, Sport and Cars. Cut and paste the South East. I'll reiterate what I said, if they think Dutton is the better choice we are in real strife as a nation.

Those same folk are the ones complaining that everything costs too much, that they've got no money, and the government is to blame.

Nevermind the fact that they've got 3 cars, a seadoo and 5 houses they can't afford.

Almost as stupid as Midwest America.

 

[Rotayjay]

Those same folk are the ones complaining that everything costs too much, that they've got no money, and the government is to blame.

Nevermind the fact that they've got 3 cars, a seadoo and 5 houses they can't afford.

Almost as stupid as Midwest America.

Same goes for the people crying poor and saying they can't find staff. You'll just have to pay more and forego the second international holiday this year. Cry me a river.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Those same folk are the ones complaining that everything costs too much, that they've got no money, and the government is to blame.

Nevermind the fact that they've got 3 cars, a seadoo and 5 houses they can't afford.

Almost as stupid as Midwest America.

It's the cashed up bogan demographic, a 50km radius in the outer ring of suburbia. They claim there working class but alot of them are borderline high income earners. There not struggling at all what there struggling with is the inconvenience of having to pay more for things. The genuine people who are struggling if there well informed would not vote for Dutton.

 

[peetoo]

It used to be called mortgage belt

 

[Rotayjay]

It's the cashed up bogan demographic, a 50km radius in the outer ring of suburbia. They claim there working class but alot of them are borderline high income earners. There not struggling at all what there struggling with is the inconvenience of having to pay more for things. The genuine people who are struggling if there well informed would not vote for Dutton.

Unfortunately I think a lot of cashed-up bogans - because they are bogans - lack the nuanced thinking to realise that Dutton won't make their lives better. It's simply 'Layba got in and everything's gone up, so I'm voting for Dutton. And he likes Ustralya Day and says he'll get rid of the woke and the immigrants.' Australia is full of people who talk (and presumably think) like that.

 

[peetoo]

Unfortunately I think a lot of cashed-up bogans - because they are bogans - lack the nuanced thinking to realise that Dutton won't make their lives better. It's simply 'Layba got in and everything's gone up, so I'm voting for Dutton. And he likes Ustralya Day and says he'll get rid of the woke and the immigrants.' Australia is full of people who talk (and presumably think) like that.

At this point, I’m saying not enough for Dutton to be PM. I think Albos numbers get better from here

 

[Not Important]

Journos need to start telling Dutton that if it’s so important for Australia’s future that people vote for his policies, he needs to say what those policies are.

any diarrhea factory churno who attempt that line of questioning would be looking for a job the next day. sad, but true.

 

[Not Important]

yep, but the dirty digger’s diarrhea factory would support anyone who does his bidding.

Mike Carlton (@mikecarlton01.bsky.social)

Never forget that The Thug is the Murdochs’ candidate for Prime Minister.

bsky.app

 

[Gralin]

Unfortunately I think a lot of cashed-up bogans - because they are bogans - lack the nuanced thinking to realise that Dutton won't make their lives better. It's simply 'Layba got in and everything's gone up, so I'm voting for Dutton. And he likes Ustralya Day and says he'll get rid of the woke and the immigrants.' Australia is full of people who talk (and presumably think) like that.

regardless of the reasons or the spin in the media and online for most people things were better before this government

that is a hard thing to overcome at the ballot box and Labor don't really seem interested in doing anything to actually change that

they can have all the stories they want about what they've done to make things better but when most people don't feel it, it won't cut through

and that makes it very easy for LNP to be negative and get Labor voted out which will result in them getting in

they don't really have to do anything more than that currently because Labor are making it very easy for them

 

[Not Important]

There needs to be a balance, but it’s been too balanced towards consultants and spin doctors for too long now

there is very little “balance” in the mainstream press generally. had labor been guilty of the disgrace that is robodebt and the consequent destruction of so many lives, including those who took their lives, there would be no end to the coverage.

 

[Not Important]

regardless of the reasons or the spin in the media and online for most people things were better before this government

that is a hard thing to overcome at the ballot box and Labor don't really seem interested in doing anything to actually change that

they can have all the stories they want about what they've done to make things better but when most people don't feel it, it won't cut through

and that makes it very easy for LNP to be negative and get Labor voted out which will result in them getting in

they don't really have to do anything more than that currently because Labor are making it very easy for them

sadly, the last sentence is accurate. albo has been a huge disappointment. when he was leader of the house he was a street fighter with strong policy positions. now pfft.

 

[winty]

Jane Hume was wheeled out on RN this morning. She said that the Coalition would 'rightsize' government and that government spending is crowding out the private sector.

Absolute bullshit. The Great Depression, Second World War, postwar boom and covid pandemic showed that Keynesian economics works. Government spending stimulates the private sector by creating demand, not the opposite. More ideological crap not backed up by evidence. The LNP's schtick.

Is that the same Jane Hume who claimed the LNP don't have any policies because they're in opposition?

 

[Kram]

A Coalition government would lean on banks to lend to creditworthy businesses in fossil fuels, forestry and agriculture after Opposition Leader Peter Dutton attacked “woke” bankers for rejecting loans on environmental grounds.
Coalition sources not authorised to speak publicly said a new policy nearing finalisation would seek to rein in the rise of banks rejecting loan applications from companies in sectors that contravene their environmental, social and governance (ESG) commitments.

Banks would face new loan regime under Coalition amid ESG pushback

Peter Dutton says bankers on multimillion-dollar pay packets who restrict lending on environmental grounds are out of step with ordinary Australians.

www.afr.com

 

[Gough]

A government interfering in the free market like that sounds pretty socialist to me.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Thats weird. Why would Gina need a loan?

 

[Gough]

Thats weird. Why would Gina need a loan?

Gastro banding and binging don't come cheap.

 

[DaRick]

It's the cashed up bogan demographic, a 50km radius in the outer ring of suburbia. They claim there working class but alot of them are borderline high income earners. There not struggling at all what there struggling with is the inconvenience of having to pay more for things. The genuine people who are struggling if there well informed would not vote for Dutton.

Unfortunately I think a lot of cashed-up bogans - because they are bogans - lack the nuanced thinking to realise that Dutton won't make their lives better. It's simply 'Layba got in and everything's gone up, so I'm voting for Dutton. And he likes Ustralya Day and says he'll get rid of the woke and the immigrants.' Australia is full of people who talk (and presumably think) like that.

The LNP already hold a lot of seats like these.

I can see Dutton increasing the margins in such seats, but how will that help him win government?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Gastro banding and binging don't come cheap.

I wonder how much Trump charged her for entry to Mar a Lago on election night.

 

[peetoo]

Banks would face new loan regime under Coalition amid ESG pushback

Peter Dutton says bankers on multimillion-dollar pay packets who restrict lending on environmental grounds are out of step with ordinary Australians.

www.afr.com

If it’s super money being discussed, account holders can specify yeah or nay. Anyway these ‘sustainable options’ give as good if not better returns anyway