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Keating was guilty of being honest in saying "this is the recession we had to have"
Anyone old enough would appreciate Australia modernised due to the reforms of Hawke & Keating and the consolidation period of not much other than GST under howard.
It is great to see Keating's super being increased now albeit a little too late and hopefully GST increases to close the tax dodge of transfer pricing
If Albo wants to be a legend, he would introduce a wealth tax rather than limit his thinking on capital gains or negative gearing. As a wealth tax taxes the wealthy where the other two create a glass ceiling and class system. Most are too dumb to appreciate that removing capital gains promotes speculation rather than investment in long term assets and removing negative gearing doesn't remove negative gearing for the wealthy.
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Really? We’re defining populist crony capitalism as stable now?
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Really? We’re defining populist crony capitalism as stable now?
And they need to get on their bike and tell Australians the cost of living crisis happened under the Liberals.
Earlier action on interest rates (which at the time were set by the government and not independently by the RBA) would have prevented the worst excesses of the recession, but was avoided by Keating due to pure hubris. He still has not an iota of doubt about his actions which led to a recession where, according to Ken Henry, 1 out of every 2 people who lost their jobs, never worked again. Literal human wreckage.
The reforms of the first four years of the Hawke/Keating Government were required and implemented well. After that they were largely a litany of economic mistakes, all made worse by Keating's inability to take alternative advice or consider different views.
Also, not for nothing, but the first four years of the Hawke/Keating Government did more to reduce union membership in this country than any robust action taken by their political opponents before and since. It's odd how both are lionised, but I also have to bite my tongue in other areas regarding Hawke which I will not go into here. Those are stories for Chatham House rules situations.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.The entire western world was in deep recession in the early 90's and Australia did not have the buffer of the mining boom years that coincided with Howard's government to hind behind and which Australia has been absorbing punches on the back of ever since.
I do agree that the Hawke Keating reforms - which are entirely neo-liberal ideology - are responsible for a lot of the major challenges Australia faces today. They are also responsible for Australia's immense prosperity.
I also agree that ultimately Hawke/Keating started a downturn in union membership and the rights of working class people generally but again that has been a global movement lead by the owners of capital.
The fact remains though that Labor are the party of reform.
Rudd negotiated the GFC better than anyone could have ever imagined and the owners of capital still cannot bring themselves to give him credit. Yes he benefited from an excellent balance sheet left by Howard/Costello and yes he still had the mining boom to hide behind, but it was still elite. Keating certainly did not do that in the 90's.
The party of reform thing is a thing of the past generally in politics. There was plenty of reform early in the Howard Costello years, and they were in fact done in by reform overreach. Rudd negotiated the GFC well early, but the second stimulus package was poorly designed. But Howard lost at the right time for his legacy: there is no evidence he would have managed the 24 hour news cycle any better than any of his successors. Gillard did plenty of important work considering her parliamentary situation, Abbott gave up on reform early, Turnbull's government looked more like Gillard's in that respect (until he got around to energy where MPs were waiting in the long grass for him), and Morrison was never going to be a reformer anyway, regardless of the external crisis that beset his premiership (the pandemic).
There is no party of reform any more in Australian politics.
GST, gun control and what? GST didn't happen in the early years either.
If by "reform overreach" you mean work choices that was the biggest own goal of all time - there was simply no reason to do it. As you pointed out unions were already massively declining and the rights and jobs of working class people were already destined to collapse.
Getting control of both houses was the worst thing to ever happen to Howard - he simply could not help himself which is in complete contrast to his early years where he was quite measured.
GST was taken to the first re-election and then implemented. Certainly in the first half of the Howard years. There was extensive workplace reform in the Howard first term. The budget was repaired, which effected a wide area of government expenditure, including welfare. The CSS became Centrelink and the Job Network. Telstra was privatised. By 2024 standards it was a busy government before 2001.
I'm not defending WorkChoices as a political exercise - just pointing out it was an attempt at reform and it was an attempt too far. The unions saw it as an existential threat and reacted accordingly and won the day.
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GST finished the democrats, that and sleeping with labor ministers
Their rank and file membership no longer wanted them to do what they had been doing since they had gotten Senators elected: from a place between the two major political parties, moderate their worst policy excesses through use of the balance of power in the Senate. That internal tension is what finished the Australian Democrats, the GST was just the tipping point. It would have eventually been something else.
The Greens are heading the same way - they have completely lost their purpose.
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I don't view selling the silverware as reform.
That rules out a big bunch of the Keating premiership then (Qantas, Commonwealth Bank)
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It was just one aspect of Keating's time, whereas for Howard, it was his one wood (along with banking mining cash).
I mentioned a number of other initiatives. The GST wasn't selling assets. Changes to gun laws weren't selling assets. Workplace relations reforms weren't selling assets.
You didn't like the initiatives, and that's fine. But they were numerous, especially compared to the pace of recent governments.
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The GST and guns are the only ones I generally see as reformative and they came very early in the piece. They were few and far between compared to the pace of previous governments.
It really serves these absolute cretins right that they tried going after Albo about being invited to the secret cheese board lounge, but drew attention to them doing basically the same thing.
There is an old legal saying: 'He who comes into equity must come with clean hands.' (If you come to court claiming unfairness, you'd better have been fair yourself).
The LNP can go **** itself.
There is an old legal saying: 'He who comes into equity must come with clean hands.' (If you come to court claiming unfairness, you'd better have been fair yourself).
The LNP can go **** itself.
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Twas a shit sandwich. Straight from the IPA playbook
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Telstra privatisation….both sides. Resulted in needing NBN to actually get market improvements competition was supposed to bring in
Optus lol been here three decades and like a chocolate teapot. Pathetic coverage just want to cherry pick
Optus lol been here three decades and like a chocolate teapot. Pathetic coverage just want to cherry pick
If Ditton doesn't win the next Federal election it will be the greatest Injustice since channel axing Gladiators in the 90s.
Tradies called Rob who drive their Ford Rangers like maniacs and say 'the ecomomy is always ****ed whenever Layba gets in'.
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Workchoices was one of the worst policies ever implemented by an Australian government, and it killed the Howard government along with the 'it's time' factor. But Howard definitely had balls to implement it. He gambled on the GST and won. He gambled on sweeping IR reform and lost.
Dutton either won't do any major reform if he gets in, or would do something stupid and I fear what that might be.
Dutton either won't do any major reform if he gets in, or would do something stupid and I fear what that might be.
This arsehat is actually going to be PM lmao.
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