Where does Marcus Bontempelli sit in the players of this era

[TiAn_]

Footy is a two way game and Danger mostly excelled one way. Bont had 170 tackles last year, leads all midfielders in 1%ers, second in the league in smothers, leads the league in contested knock ons, etc. Does all the dirty defensive work and unheralded stuff while also being an elite ball winner, offensive weapon and an exquisite kick of the footy. Casual fans won’t notice that stuff though, they’ll just gravitate to whoever gets the 30 disposals.

Danger just never did the breadth of work that Bont does on both sides of the ball (e.g. Bont’s siting at 5.2 tackles a game for his entire career, a number Danger only managed in a season twice in 16 years) and his kicking simply wasn’t in the same league.

To each their own though, Danger was obviously a fantastic ball winner and great player too, in his prime.

 

[Young Redleg]

How exactly was bont close to a norm smith in a game in a grand final you got obliterated in 2021?? He didnt get a single norm smith vote either... And was no where near petraccas 40 touches and 2 goals.

Yeah if anyone was 'close' to a norm smith that day it was definitely Bailey Fritsch

 

[Cleansweep17]

Bont has been more consistent for longer throughout his career. Once he became elite (very quickly) he's never truly dipped.

This argument you've used here is the same as saying Matt Priddis is a better footballer than Joel Selwood because he actually won a Brownlow and then followed it up with a podium finish the following year.

Problem with that is that Danger has 8 AAs compared to 5 lol

 

[geelong_crazy26]

2021 and 2023.

Lol hilarious

 

[Cleansweep17]

Signature move lol wtf? This isn’t the WWE.

Exactly he’s vanilla like many good footballers.

Nothing separates him from the pack. Hence why he isn’t tier 1.

I’m not being unreasonable. The best of the best in any competition have something that stands out that’s makes them so good.

Even Pendlebury (who I wouldn’t even put in tier 1 and I think is boring af to watch) has his signature “evasiveness”

 

[Cleansweep17]

I remember Dangerfield, Fyfe and Martin all being beaten by Tom Mitchell in a Brownlow.

They must all be hacks...

You mean the guy that broke multiple disposals records in the season? Yeah shocking.

 

[Fadge]

You mean the guy that broke multiple disposals records in the season? Yeah shocking.

Oh.

So very good players can have a great season to nab a Brownlow ahead of far better players of their era?

Interesting.

 

[YeoShuey]

In terms of this season:

Somewhere behind Cripps who is the best player in the league, and Naicos who is a distant second.

 

[Fadge]

In terms of this season:

Somewhere behind Cripps who is the best player in the league, and Naicos who is a distant second.

Dreaming. (Which is worse than imagining).

 

[Bald]

Exactly he’s vanilla like many good footballers.

Nothing separates him from the pack. Hence why he isn’t tier 1.

I’m not being unreasonable. The best of the best in any competition have something that stands out that’s makes them so good.

Even Pendlebury (who I wouldn’t even put in tier 1 and I think is boring af to watch) has his signature “evasiveness”

I think you're being completely unreasonable. Suggesting a player needs a point of difference to be a tier one player is ludicrous.

What was Gary Ablett Juniors "signature" move?

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Dangerfields prime is so underrated. People seemed to hate him for

a) leaving Adelaide
And
B) showing some personality in the media

Bontempelli has been a top 10 player for 6 or so years but Dangerfield in his best years was as good as any player I’ve seen in the last 20 years not named GAJ. Bloke averaged 30 and kicked 45 goals in 2017.

I’d say Bontempelli needs to have a season where he is indisputably the best player in the league before he should be mentioned in the top 10

Even since 2010 if we include only midfielders he’s probably below Fyfe, Danger, Martin, and Pendlebury

Bingo. He is not as good as dangerfield martin etc

 

[The Dougster]

Better than Judd what the hell is this, everyone calm down...

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Judd comfortably sits in the top tier with Buddy & Gaj.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I think you're being completely unreasonable. Suggesting a player needs a point of difference to be a tier one player is ludicrous.

What was Gary Ablett Juniors "signature" move?

Did you actually watch ablett?? He is the slippery most evasive player i have seen, had also a burst of excelleration out of packs and an elite medium forward.

Up there with the top ten all time

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Footy is a two way game and Danger mostly excelled one way. Bont had 170 tackles last year, leads all midfielders in 1%ers, second in the league in smothers, leads the league in contested knock ons, etc. Does all the dirty defensive work and unheralded stuff while also being an elite ball winner, offensive weapon and an exquisite kick of the footy. Casual fans won’t notice that stuff though, they’ll just gravitate to whoever gets the 30 disposals.

Danger just never did the breadth of work that Bont does on both sides of the ball (e.g. Bont’s siting at 5.2 tackles a game for his entire career, a number Danger only managed in a season twice in 16 years) and his kicking simply wasn’t in the same league.

To each their own though, Danger was obviously a fantastic ball winner and great player too, in his prime.

Tackles and 1 percenters??

Sure, bont can have that. Dangerfield pretty much takes the cake in every other area across his prime compared to bontempelli.

 

[Bald]

Did you actually watch ablett?? He is the slippery most evasive player i have seen, had also a burst of excelleration out of packs and an elite medium forward.

Up there with the top ten all time

Rubbish. Ablett did everything better than everyone but did not have one specific "signature move". I can't believe that's even a thing that supporters think about, what an utter nonsense.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Dreaming. (Which is worse than imagining).

Some full of dilusion in this thread.

The guy is not on the same level as dangerfield martin fyfe

 

[Fadge]

Rubbish. Ablett did everything better than everyone but did not have one specific "signature move". I can't believe that's even a thing that supporters think about, what an utter nonsense.

It's not a thing that rational supporters think about.

We are talking about a very special case here...

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Rubbish. Ablett did everything better than everyone but did not have one specific "signature move". I can't believe that's even a thing that supporters think about, what an utter nonsense.

Rubbish?? Whats rubbish about ablett i just said?

 

[Bald]

Rubbish?? Whats rubbish about ablett i just said?

Your dedication to username and post correlation is actually admirable.

You saying that Ablett's signature move was his evasiveness is some of the stupidest shit I've ever read.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Problem with that is that Danger has 8 AAs compared to 5 lol

several posters got upset and had swipes at me... Then they go on to claim some of the dumbest laughable things you will hear such as “ close to a norm smith medal” in a grand final he got zero norm smith votes in.

Then topping it with saying a player lacks consistency who has an all time record 8AA’s.

I guess when your iq is that low yu produce ripping posts and logic like this, anything rational will make you angry

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Your dedication to username and post correlation is actually admirable.

You saying that Ablett's signature move was his evasiveness is some of the stupidest shit I've ever read.

So garry ablett didnt have elite evasiveness and wasnt an explosive player?? You need to lay off the drugs a little

 

[Bald]

So garry ablett didnt have elite evasiveness and wasnt an explosive player?? You need to lay off the drugs a little

Where did I say he wasn't evasive or explosive? I'm saying it wasn't a signature move. If you are saying that's what put him into the tier one of the competition (which is what this "signature move" conversation is based on) then you are doing him a great disservice.

After this conversation I'm actually going to have to lay in to the drugs a little.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Where did I say he wasn't evasive or explosive? I'm saying it wasn't a signature move. If you are saying that's what put him into the tier one of the competition (which is what this "signature move" conversation is based on) then you are doing him a great disservice.

After this conversation I'm actually going to have to lay in to the drugs a little.

I didnt say you need a signature move, i am just highlighting a few of abletta elite traits he was 10/10 at. He had a few others also.

Ablett sits on a whole different shelf to bont mate

 

[Bald]

I didnt say you need a signature move, i am just highlighting a few of abletta elite traits he was 10/10 at. He had a few others also.

Ablett sits on a whole different shelf to bont mate

You responded to a conversation about a player needing to have a signature move, or they are considered vanilla - perhaps do a bit of light reading before involving yourself in a conversation mate?

I also don't hold any issues saying Ablett is better than Bont. Ablett is the best player I've ever seen.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

You responded to a conversation about a player needing to have a signature move, or they are considered vanilla - perhaps do a bit of light reading before involving yourself in a conversation mate?

I also don't hold any issues saying Ablett is better than Bont. Ablett is the best player I've ever seen.

I assume signature move he simply means something a player is elite at that makes him stand out. I simply answered that and gave a few things.