Coach Who Should Our Next Coach Be (Poll Updated)

[Carringbush2010]

This is what has me gobsmacked. Who, in their right mind, wouldn’t want the Collingwood gig?! You’ve said it - it’s the best and biggest seat. You’re the senior coach of the biggest FC in Australia, you’re helping rebuild the brand from the ground up and the playing list isn’t as bad as people make it out to be.

I think the media has swayed people’s thinking a little too much.

Wow! Where do I start? Can you link that we're the biggest club in the land? Highest profile yes but don't be influenced by the meeja, we aren't, we're only relevant because we supposedly have a ridiculously large fan base - which no one can undoubtedly prove one way or the other anyway.

Who wouldn't want the job? Anyone with a modicum of an idea of what is going on at the club, we're looking at an egm ffs - that immediately implies instability. And yes the list isn't as bad as some make it out to be but let's not pretend it is not severely imbalanced. There is a mountain of work to be done to drag this squad out of its current hole.

 

[bunter]

I think Ross Lyon was sensitive to the situation with Teague. Has been all along. On Wednesday night, from memory, he began by saying Carlton still has a coach and until they don't, he was being careful about throwing his hat in the ring. When he was pressed he said he would entertain a pitch from Carlton, but that Collingwood was too unstable. Interestingly, he said that if Ed were still in the chair, he'd be thinking differently.

Similarly, I don't think Clarkson would entertain the idea of Collingwood in the current circumstances for the same reasons. It looks like a two horse race between McCrae and Pyke. BTW, who the hell is Jamie Graham and why is his name being mentioned in relation to the job?

I think my BS detector is on a different setting to yours.

 

[Markfs]

I think my BS detector is on a different setting to yours.

I think when Rossie talks, all detectors go into overload within 2 seconds...

 

[Apples]

I don’t think he was Apples.

He’s been strong all year on not commenting on coaching situations because it was disrespectful.

He said he was sensitive to the situation and then went on to highlight that Carlton people are advocating for him and that it’s flattering, that he thought he coached well in his last year, had taken two clubs to GF’s and that he’d take the call.

That’s not being sensitive to the situation. That’s doing your pitch for the job on national television.



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Yep, he did do that. I'd forgotten that bit, but I reckon he was being pushed there. Caro and Ed were asking and probing. He did say he'd rethought the situation and that many people at Carlton had connections to him and had talked him up.
I don't think he was undermining Teague as such. He also said that Clarkson would be and should be Carlton's No.1 choice.

 

[Rebuilder]

I don't know their players well enough, does anyone know which team could expect the brighter future?


25 years and under: 665 Games.

Ruscoe Keane Quaynor
Murphy Moore Maynard

Lynch De Goey N Daicos
Poulter McInnes J Daicos

Henry Kelly McCreery
Begg McMahon Ginnivan

Int:
Dib Macrea Bianco T Brown Noble Wilson



Carlscum 25 years and under: 1100 Games.

Stocker Marchbank Williamson
Parks Weitering Petrevski-Seton

Pittonet Walsh Setterfield
O'Brien Dow Cunningham

Curnow Kennedy Fisher
Silvagni McKay Fogarty

Int:
Honey Cottrell Durdin Philp McDonald De Koning

 

[HFF]

Wow! Where do I start? Can you link that we're the biggest club in the land? Highest profile yes but don't be influenced by the meeja, we aren't, we're only relevant because we supposedly have a ridiculously large fan base - which no one can undoubtedly prove one way or the other anyway.

Who wouldn't want the job? Anyone with a modicum of an idea of what is going on at the club, we're looking at an egm ffs - that immediately implies instability. And yes the list isn't as bad as some make it out to be but let's not pretend it is not severely imbalanced. There is a mountain of work to be done to drag this squad out of its current hole.

Don’t get caught up in that “instability” nonsense.
all clubs have leadership changes ..it doesn’t mean instability...it means a refreshing or changing of the guard. Nothing lasts forever.

this seat has had 2 coaches in 20 years....this should tell you everything you need to know about just how stable and supportive this club is to that chair....

 

[Matt_352]

I don't know their players well enough, does anyone know which team could expect the brighter future?


25 years and under:

Ruscoe Keane Quaynor
Wilson Moore Maynard

Lynch De Goey N Daicos
Poulter McInnes J Daicos

Henry Kelly McCreery
Begg McMahon Ginnivan

Int:
Dib Macrea Bianco T Brown Murphy Johnson



Carlscum 25 and under:

Stocker Marchbank Williamson
Parks Weitering Petrevski-Seton

Pittonet Walsh Setterfield
Dow Cottrell Cunningham

Curnow Kennedy Fisher
Silvagni McKay Fogarty

Int:
Honey Owies Durdin Philp McDonald De Koning

Their talls are definitely better

 

[Markfs]

I don't know their players well enough, does anyone know which team could expect the brighter future?


25 years and under:

Ruscoe Keane Quaynor
Wilson Moore Maynard

Lynch De Goey N Daicos
Poulter McInnes J Daicos

Henry Kelly McCreery
Begg McMahon Ginnivan

Int:
Dib Macrea Bianco T Brown Murphy Johnson



Carlscum:

Stocker Marchbank Williamson
Parks Weitering Petrevski-Seton

Pittonet Walsh Setterfield
Dow Cottrell Cunningham

Curnow Kennedy Fisher
Silvagni McKay Fogarty

Int:
Honey Owies Durdin Philp McDonald De Koning

do we care what ross thinks?

 

[Rebuilder]

Their talls are definitely better

I reckon Walsh is about it for them in the midfield though, Dow might still come on but it's pretty threadbare for a club that's lived in the cellar.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Don’t get caught up in that “instability” nonsense.
all clubs have leadership changes ..it doesn’t mean instability...it means a refreshing or changing of the guard. Nothing lasts forever.

this seat has had 2 coaches in 20 years....this should tell you everything you need to know about just how stable and supportive this club is to that chair....

We're looking at an egm - still! -, that is conflict within the club and its fan base, can't be disputed. Has zero to do with change of leadership, it's the how and why the change of leadership - not leadership change per se.

If you're a coach from the outside looking in, what would be your impression?

 

[Rebuilder]

do we care what ross thinks?

We do not! but we do want to overtake the filth in flags.

 

[HFF]

We're looking at an egm - still! -, that is conflict within the club and its fan base, can't be disputed. Has zero to do with change of leadership, it's the how and why the change of leadership - not leadership change per se.

If you're a coach from the outside looking in, what would be your impression?

Natural evolution of football.
We have had 2 coaches in 20 years
One president and no board changes in 20 years.

if I’m an outsider looking in...this is one place that definitely stands by its people...

the mob up the road has had more coaches in a decade than they have had finals appearances ....

You tell me which chair you would prefer to sit in?

Absolute no brained for mine

 

[MyManLynch]

We're looking at an egm - still! -, that is conflict within the club and its fan base, can't be disputed. Has zero to do with change of leadership, it's the how and why the change of leadership - not leadership change per se.

If you're a coach from the outside looking in, what would be your impression?

There will no EGM.

 

[Scodog10]

Scary as it sounds they are alot more stable then us atm, they also have a better list.

Who would have thought.

They aren’t more stable! A new president, GM of footy operations and 3rd senior coach in 3 years screams instability to me. Their list is just better than ours that’s all.

I haven’t read through, but I assume this discussion is mostly because Lyon rebuffed us citing instability? Is it not probable that it’s because of how tight he is with McGuire and because our interest in him was passing at best? As opposed to him actually knowing the ins and outs of the club.

Don’t get me wrong it’s been a challenging year, but board down we’ve handled things very well since McGuire left…

 

[Scodog10]

We're looking at an egm - still! -, that is conflict within the club and its fan base, can't be disputed. Has zero to do with change of leadership, it's the how and why the change of leadership - not leadership change per se.

If you're a coach from the outside looking in, what would be your impression?

No we’re not. It’s an AGM that takes place every year there’s nothing extraordinary about it except members will actually vote for once and can either prove how stupid or switched on they are.

 

[PieLebo87]

Wow! Where do I start? Can you link that we're the biggest club in the land? Highest profile yes but don't be influenced by the meeja, we aren't, we're only relevant because we supposedly have a ridiculously large fan base - which no one can undoubtedly prove one way or the other anyway.

You might deem yourself as a realist, but that post reeks of pessimism.

Manchester United aren’t in their glory days and there’s at least 2 teams more stable, and better than them at the moment in the EPL. United have also been a rabble for a few years now since SAF left. No-one in their right mind wouldn’t classify them as the highest profile/biggest FCs in England. Collingwood isn’t too dissimilar in that history doesn’t just disappear when we’re down.

We played off in a GF 3 years ago FFS. We average a GF every 3-4 years. Our last 21 years have yielded just 2 flags, yet we’ve played off in 6 GFs. This is meant to be one of our darkest periods in the club’s history. There’s no other club in the competition that comes close to Collingwood and you really shouldn’t think otherwise.

Who wouldn't want the job? Anyone with a modicum of an idea of what is going on at the club, we're looking at an egm ffs - that immediately implies instability. And yes the list isn't as bad as some make it out to be but let's not pretend it is not severely imbalanced. There is a mountain of work to be done to drag this squad out of its current hole.

The position that is up for grabs is the senior coaching position, not a board position, the presidency or the CEO gig. Anyone applying wouldn’t be looking too far past where the current list and FD is at and how much they’d need to change to churn out a successful FD and playing list. Just because the media is talking about the imbalance above that, doesn’t mean media’s perception is reality. Clowns like Lyon are paid to make controversial commentary. I don’t buy into that non sense. Collingwood ain’t going under, and their board room issues ain’t going to make matters any worse than what it currently is in the football department. People are talking now like the applicants for the gigs are bigger than the club and they shouldn’t ‘risk their professional careers’ on such an ‘unstable’ work environment, but anyone with a clear head should be calling bullshit on that. I’d be more concerning coaching Carlton when looking at their EXPOSED form of being a rabble for 15 years or GCS, who might not even be at the GC than worry about the stability of the senior coaching gig at the Collingwood Football Club and what ‘MIGHT HAPPEN’ because of the current board.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Natural evolution of football.
We have had 2 coaches in 20 years
One president and no board changes in 20 years.

if I’m an outsider looking in...this is one place that definitely stands by its people...

the mob up the road has had more coaches in a decade than they have had finals appearances ....

You tell me which chair you would prefer to sit in?

Absolute no brained for mine

Natural evolution?

So sacking a coach mid season and a prez who stuck his foot in his mouth one time too many is natural evolution now?

Uh uh, this is a result of the club making fk up after fk up over a decade and is now reaping what it has sewn.

I'm not comparing to the blose debacle, I'm pointing out that we are not in a 'nothing to see here' situation, the club is undeniably in turmoil at the minute and as far as appointing a new coach goes, the club is the beggar not the chooser because of that.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Clarko spent his time in the UK to study soccer.. played out 18mths later.. put players in grid formation in the backline.. and the rest my friends.. is history..

And who said AFL is not a branch of soccer.

Ade.

$29,550 to be Clarko's assistant.

Guaranteed a Collingwood 3peat.

 

[Markfs]

i think we should start a dedicated "why didnt ross like us" thread and keep it going for the next 5 years

 

[Carringbush2010]

No we’re not. It’s an AGM that takes place every year there’s nothing extraordinary about it except members will actually vote for once and can either prove how stupid or switched on they are.

So it's confirmed there won't be an egm? Apologies, I stand corrected if you're correct.

 

[SchuPie]

Sorry if it’s already been posted:

Pickers said we weren’t interested in Lyon FWIW


Tom Brown / The Duck have both said they think Lyon is the Blues’ man - also FWIW

 

[HFF]

Natural evolution?

So sacking a coach mid season and a prez who stuck his foot in his mouth one time too many is natural evolution now?

Uh uh, this is a result of the club making fk up after fk up over a decade and is now reaping what it has sewn.

I'm not comparing to the blose debacle, I'm pointing out that we are not in a 'nothing to see here' situation, the club is undeniably in turmoil at the minute and as far as appointing a new coach goes, the club is the beggar not the chooser because of that.

We are not in turmoil....that’s sensationalism at its finest.

For 20 years we have had no changes....finally we are seeing some change and everyone thinks it’s turmoil....settle down.

 

[Jekyll and Hyde]

I don't know their players well enough, does anyone know which team could expect the brighter future?


25 years and under:

Ruscoe Keane Quaynor
Murphy Moore Maynard

Lynch De Goey N Daicos
Poulter McInnes J Daicos

Henry Kelly McCreery
Begg McMahon Ginnivan

Int:
Dib Macrea Bianco T Brown Noble Wilson



Carlscum 25 and under:

Stocker Marchbank Williamson
Parks Weitering Petrevski-Seton

Pittonet Walsh Setterfield
Cottrell Dow Cunningham

Curnow Kennedy Fisher
Silvagni McKay Fogarty

Int:
Honey Owies Durdin Philp McDonald De Koning

You started with Ruscoe and Keane….
You’re taking the piss surely.
Both absolute garbage footballers.

 

[Carringbush2010]

You might deem yourself as a realistic, but that post reeks of pessimism.

That's your interpretation, does not mean it's correct.

We played off in a GF 3 years ago FFS. We average a GF every 3-4 years. Our last 21 years have yielded just 2 flags, yet we’ve played off in 6 GFs. This is meant to be one of our darkest periods in the club’s history. There’s no other club in the competition that comes close to Collingwood and you really shouldn’t think otherwise.

Wrong, just one, and let's not pretend we couldn't have had more flags in this period. We had what could've been a dynasty team win one flag. Can't sugar coat that with gf losses.

The position that is up for grabs is the senior coaching position, not a board position, the presidency or the CEO gig. Anyone applying wouldn’t be looking too far past where the current list and FD is at and how much they’d need to change to churn out a successful FD and playing list. Just because the media is talking about the imbalance above that, doesn’t mean media’s perception is reality. Clowns like Lyon are paid to make controversial commentary. I don’t buy into that non sense. Collingwood ain’t going under, and their board room issues ain’t going to make matters any worse than what it currently is in the football department. People are talking now like the applicants for the gigs are bigger than the club and they shouldn’t ‘risk their professional careers’ on such an ‘unstable’ work environment, but anyone with a clear head should be calling bullshit on that. I’d be more concerning coaching Carlton when looking at their EXPOSED form of being a rabble for 15 years or GCS, who might not even be at the GC than worry about the stability of the senior coaching gig at the Collingwood Football Club and what ‘MIGHT HAPPEN’ because of the current board.

I'm not taking what Lyon says with any relevance, I wouldn't trust him as far as a broken tape measure tbh, that's not the point. The club is the beggar not the chooser when it comes to our new coach. Luckily we're the only club officially looking for a coach and that limits the opportunities for coaches looking for a position. Doesn't equate to them all falling over themselves trying to get the job, our coach will likely accept the gig on their terms advantageous to them

 

[Rebuilder]

You started with Ruscoe and Keane….
You’re taking the piss surely.
Both absolute garbage footballers.

Hey that's what we've got to work with under 25, talk to Hine.