Banter Carlton is better in 2024. Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[Wosh]

Mainly here so we can enjoy the LOLs afterwards at the end of 2024, but also an interesting discussion point.

Who do you see finishing higher in 2024?

Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective?

Let the games begin…

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Banter - Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood?

Mainly here so we can enjoy the LOLs afterwards at the end of 2023, but also an interesting discussion point. I’m in genuine two minds and can’t call it, but who do you see finishing higher in 2023? Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective? Let the games begin… Mod Note: This is...

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Part 2 is here

Banter - Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 2

Mainly here so we can enjoy the LOLs afterwards at the end of 2023, but also an interesting discussion point. I’m in genuine two minds and can’t call it, but who do you see finishing higher in 2023? Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective? Let the games begin… Mod Note: This is...

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[Worm4]

If you wanna fly your flag because you're 8th and out of the premiership hunt then go ahead, mate. Pies fans are content with this year, especially knowing you can only dream of experiencing a drop off like this

Season isn't over . Ebbs and flows as you have witnessed. Plenty to play out in my opinion . Just won't involve your mob

 

[Arr0w]

You've consistently proven you can't, so why would any of us bother?

See, you can't last one post. Even your own supporters know

Keep playing the poster, you will get a response in kind

 

[Fadge]

I get that, but then you may as well start assessing games played against each opponent when they play each other, not based on a fixture determined by the order in which teams finished last year.

And then take into account personnel / injuries.

You are trying to make something pretty simple overly difficult.

Just stick with ladder position.

Yeah, why use all the data available to arrive at a conclusion, when you can make it very simple and use a single data point to quickly form a conclusion, even if it is inaccurate?

 

[Arr0w]

Yeah, why use all the data available to arrive at a conclusion, when you can make it very simple and use a single data point to quickly form a conclusion, even if it is inaccurate?

Is the ladder inaccurate?

 

[Worm4]

In years to come I will fondly remember Daicos's goal and McGoverns kick to beat your sorry mob twice. Not as great as the grim reaper game but still up there.

I suspect they will end up being the only things Carlton fans remember from 2024 in the future too.

We Carlton supporters get told off for bringing up the past by posters in here. Same rules won't apply. Knock yourself out with those memories.

 

[carlton_99]

There is also the minor point about being a premiership captain.

Yes and Trent Cotchin is better than Gary Ablett then I'm guessing?

Once again being a premiership captain does not make you a better player.

 

[Captivating]

Yeah, why use all the data available to arrive at a conclusion, when you can make it very simple and use a single data point to quickly form a conclusion, even if it is inaccurate?

Are you using ALL the data, or cherry picking?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Who cares when you are in the 8 and still a chance to win it.....your rabble are not !

Weren't you in the top 2 a few weeks ago?

Epic season meltdown

Meanwhile we're still the reigning premier we'll still remember this disappointing season more fondly than you guys

 

[carlton_99]

You've consistently proven you can't, so why would any of us bother?

You have consistently proven yourself incapable of being even a little bit unbiased when it comes to anything relating to Carlton. Why would anyone want to discuss Carlton with you?

 

[Fadge]

Who cares when you are in the 8 and still a chance to win it.....your rabble are not !

Woohoo!

Three consecutive seasons where Carlton have challenged to make finals!

It doesn't get any better than this for a Carlton supporter, despite any chance of them contending for a flag in 2024 disappearing with a McGovern shank on Saturday night.

 

[Madblue]

Weren't you in the top 2 a few weeks ago?

Epic season meltdown

Meanwhile we're still the reigning premier we'll still remember this disappointing season more fondly than you guys

Good try....

 

[Corn Cobbers]

This is a poor post even by your standards

Low quality, repetitive responses deserve rubbish in reply

 

[Arr0w]

Low quality, repetitive responses deserve rubbish in reply

You started the ball rolling, happy to return serve

Ready for a real footy debate? Go

 

[Fadge]

Are you using ALL the data, or cherry picking?

What a ridiculous question.

 

[Captivating]

What a ridiculous question.

Lay out your data and analysis

For me it's simple:

If we are asking which team would I currently prefer based on head to head - Collingwood.
If we are asking which team would I currently prefer based on finals prospects - Carlton

 

[Fadge]

You have consistently proven yourself incapable of being even a little bit unbiased when it comes to anything relating to Carlton. Why would anyone want to discuss Carlton with you?

Because you might learn something.

Four little dot points that I highlighted earlier, and have been saying for years, seem to be the difference between Carlton contending for premierships, and Carlton challenging to make up the numbers in finals.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

You started the ball rolling, happy to return serve

Ready for a real footy debate? Go

Seriously...

You're so not capable of debating anything

 

[Fadge]

Lay out your data and analysis

It's all been laid out, by myself and other posters, previously in this thread.

 

[carlton_99]

Because you might learn something.

Four little dot points that I highlighted earlier, and have been saying for years, seem to be the difference between Carlton contending for premierships, and Carlton challenging to make up the numbers in finals.

It is impossible to learn anything from anyone that incredibly biased. If you even tried to open the other eye maybe some worthy discussion could be had

 

[Captivating]

It's all been laid out, by myself and other posters, previously in this thread.

All I've seen is H2H and games against North, Richmond and WCE. There may be more, but I haven't been following every post or even page in this thread

 

[Corn Cobbers]

It's all been laid out, by myself and other posters, previously in this thread.

They're just a dumb football club, they think it's a game of rugby or something

 

[Worm4]

Woohoo!

Three consecutive seasons where Carlton have challenged to make finals!

It doesn't get any better than this for a Carlton supporter, despite any chance of them contending for a flag in 2024 disappearing with a McGovern shank on Saturday night.

You like to think that. Reality is , Carlton are still in the mix for finals and any side is still a chance from that position.
Collingwood - nup. They blew it against Essendon and Saints of all teams and won't be contending this year.

 

[Worm4]

They're just a dumb football club, they think it's a game of rugby or something

At least we have been here the whole year. You went missing old friend.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

They blew it against Essendon and Saints of all teams and won't be contending this year.

Oh how horrid

The smart ones amongst us kind of worked this out 6 weeks ago

Still getting plenty of unexpected joy though, what a legendary win for Pendles' 400th, great springboard into next year

That's what powerhouses do, salvage from the wreck