Banter Carlton is better in 2024. Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[HeathySure]

Wonder what pick Freo will end up with after this round from the Schultz trade?

We get players like premiership full forward Mihocek from the rookie draft. You pick Paddy Dow at pick 2.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

We get players like premiership full forward Mihocek from the rookie draft. You pick Paddy Dow at pick 2.

Yeah Nathan Freeman and Jaidyn Stephenson were great pick ups

 

[HeathySure]

Yeah Nathan Freeman and Jaidyn Stephenson were great picp

Yet we win premierships and you win struggle to make the 8 with 3 number 1 draft picks, 2 Coleman medalists, and 1 brownlow medalist in your side.
I bet you are really happy about that

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Yet we win premierships and you win struggle to make the 8 with 3 number 1 draft picks, 2 Coleman medalists, and 1 brownlow medalist in your side.
I bet you are really happy about that

How many is it in the last 7 decades again?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Don't be concerned . It's not a collingwood issue.

He's still a human being, bloody ridiculous a leaping leading FF trying to play in a leg brace

Can't see the point myself but anyway good luck with that

 

[HeathySure]

How many is it in the last 7 decades again?

sadly less than as many wooden spoons you have had this century. oh well, at least you won at something

 

[Worm4]

He's still a human being, bloody ridiculous a leaping leading FF trying to play in a leg brace

Can't see the point myself but anyway good luck with that

It's an ankle brace for support. I wear one for my knee but it doesn't restrict my movement post OP. It just holds it all together . Do you know how bad his ankle is ? I don't. Maybe its ok to go ? Why assume that it's fckd ?

 

[Worm4]

Yeah Nathan Freeman and Jaidyn Stephenson were great pick ups

We all know collingwoods draft past 10 years has been crap. Lucky they got some v good father sons coz without them they'd be in Antarctica, not mexico

 

[Corn Cobbers]

It's an ankle brace for support. I wear one for my knee but it doesn't restrict my movement post OP. It just holds it all together . Do you know how bad his ankle is ? I don't. Maybe its ok to go ? Why assume that it's fckd ?

You're not doing anything in the finals without a fit Curnow, just seems like a crazy risk not worth taking, he could have 4 weeks off and come out huffing

Anyway that's the Voss way, everything in the very short-term, terrified of missing finals

 

[joy division]

Collingwood have been better in 2024. Rd 24 won’t change that result.

 

[Fadge]

We all know collingwoods draft past 10 years has been crap. Lucky they got some v good father sons coz without them they'd be in Antarctica, not mexico

So our drafting in the last 10 years has been 'crap', yet in the past 6 years we've won a flag, lost a Grand Final, and had two other top 4 finishes.

Imagine if we even had moderate success at the draft?

Meanwhile, Carlton had drafted Coleman Medallists, a Brownlow Medallist and the Gary Ayres Medallist in their only finals appearance. Amazing drafting - surely they've been regular premiership contenders in recent years?

Nope, you say?

Oh well.

 

[adammania9]

Ok then, Tigers one flag in the last decade, nothing to hang your hat on really

As a matter of fact, Richmond haven’t won a flag this decade, as since there was no year 0, the decades and centuries begin with a 1

 

[Worm4]

So our drafting in the last 10 years has been 'crap', yet in the past 6 years we've won a flag, lost a Grand Final, and had two other top 4 finishes.

Imagine if we even had moderate success at the draft?

Meanwhile, Carlton had drafted Coleman Medallists, a Brownlow Medallist and the Gary Ayres Medallist in their only finals appearance. Amazing drafting - surely they've been regular premiership contenders in recent years?

Nope, you say?

Oh well.

Imagine ? Jeez , there's that word again

 

[adammania9]

Speaking of stinky drafting. Carlton’s first round drafting since taking Walsh as a reward for winning 2 games in 2018

Pick 19 - Liam Stocker

14

Liam Stocker

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

Pick 17 - Brodie Kemp
Pick 20 - Sam Philp

34

Sam Philp

Age

23

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

0.5

1star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.5

3star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

0.5

1star

T

1.5

2star

G

0.5

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

0.5

1star

T

1.5

4star

G

0.5

3star

Pick 11 - Oliver Hollands



Jaidyn Stephenson

2

Jaidyn Stephenson

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

did more in one and a half years at Collingwood than they have in many years combined

 

[Worm4]

Speaking of stinky drafting. Carlton’s first round drafting since taking Walsh as a reward for winning 2 games in 2018

Pick 19 - Liam Stocker

14

Liam Stocker

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

Pick 17 - Brodie Kemp
Pick 20 - Sam Philp

34

Sam Philp

Age

23

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

0.5

1star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.5

3star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

0.5

1star

T

1.5

2star

G

0.5

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

0.5

1star

T

1.5

4star

G

0.5

3star

Pick 11 - Oliver Hollands



Jaidyn Stephenson

2

Jaidyn Stephenson

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.4

5star

did more in one and a half years at Collingwood than they have in many years combined

Kemps draft year 2019.
Surely collingwoods finest moment in its history of the draft. Its hilarious.

 

[carlton_99]

Speaking of stinky drafting. Carlton’s first round drafting since taking Walsh as a reward for winning 2 games in 2018

Pick 19 - Liam Stocker
Pick 17 - Brodie Kemp
Pick 20 - Sam Philp
Pick 11 - Oliver Hollands



Jaidyn Stephenson did more in one and a half years at Collingwood than they have in many years combined

How exactly is O.Hollands a "stinky" pick? Kemp as well proving to be a pretty good asset. Stocker playing pretty consistently for the Saints. Philp just a horrid run with injury.

 

[Fadge]

Kemps draft year 2019.
Surely collingwoods finest moment in its history of the draft. Its hilarious.

Tell us all what happened in that draft?

Collingwood were too busy contending for a premiership again in 2019 to remember anything about the draft.

 

[adammania9]

Kemps draft year 2019.
Surely collingwoods finest moment in its history of the draft. Its hilarious.

You want to try writing that again?

 

[adammania9]

How exactly is O.Hollands a "stinky" pick? Kemp as well proving to be a pretty good asset. Stocker playing pretty consistently for the Saints. Philp just a horrid run with injury.

Hollands is a run of the mill winger with poor skills. Kemp is a stock standard rookie-draft type defender. If Philp was good, he’d have been afforded the same time as Marchbank and Cuningham. Stocker you’re embarrassing yourself trying to justify

 

[Worm4]

You want to try writing that again?

It's in English - should I interpret in Mexican so you can understand the local language ?

 

[Forward Press]

It's in English - should I interpret in Mexican so you can understand the local language ?

Mexicans speak Mexican?

 

[Worm4]

Hollands is a run of the mill winger with poor skills. Kemp is a stock standard rookie-draft type defender. If Philp was good, he’d have been afforded the same time as Marchbank and Cuningham. Stocker you’re embarrassing yourself trying to justify

Ruscoe, Bianco and Rantall from 2019 are all class
Are you sure you want to go down this path of conversation ?

 

[carlton_99]

Hollands is a run of the mill winger with poor skills. Kemp is a stock standard rookie-draft type defender. If Philp was good, he’d have been afforded the same time as Marchbank and Cuningham. Stocker you’re embarrassing yourself trying to justify

• Hollands has been in the system <2 years and was voted the third best young player in 2023 (AFLPA Best First-Year Player Award) behind Sheezel and Aschroft.
• Kemp is no where close to a rookie-draft type player - bizarre comparison
• No idea if Philp was good - we didn't get a chance to see him because of injuries
• And Stocker is playing consistent football at AFL level - not sure how that is embarrassing. He is pick 19 not pick 3 - not every player is going to be a star. But he has been a good role player for the Saints.

 

[Fadge]

• Hollands has been in the system <2 years and was voted the third best young player in 2023 (AFLPA Best First-Year Player Award) behind Sheezel and Aschroft.
• Kemp is no where close to a rookie-draft type player - bizarre comparison
• No idea if Philp was good - we didn't get a chance to see him because of injuries
• And Stocker is playing consistent football at AFL level - not sure how that is embarrassing. He is pick 19 not pick 3 - not every player is going to be a star. But he has been a good role player for the Saints.

No, you're right.

Carlton's recruiting has been second to none for a long time.

Just keep doing what you've been doing for the past two decades.

Please.

 

[carlton_99]

No, you're right.

Carlton's recruiting has been second to none for a long time.

Just keep doing what you've been doing for the past two decades.

Please.

Nothing to do with my post