Banter Carlton is better in 2024. Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[Arr0w]

Not season shaping?

He kicks it and you're in the mix to finish top 2.

He misses, and you likely scrape into the lower rungs of the top 8.

Do you understand how the finals system works, or do you need schooling on that as well?

I do fudge, I've seen heaps of GF wins and pie losses

 

[Worm4]

Not season shaping?

He kicks it and you're in the mix to finish top 2.

He misses, and you likely scrape into the lower rungs of the top 8.

Do you understand how the finals system works, or do you need schooling on that as well?

I think you really need to look at the fixturing. Carlton win all 3 games and they finish top 4.
You can have your scenarios, and we can have ours as well

 

[Worm4]

NFI.

You've got NFI ?

 

[Arr0w]

You've got NFI ?

Again

 

[Arr0w]

Still

 

[Fadge]

More injuries?

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Carlton are fortunate they have 35 players in their best 22.

 

[Fadge]

I do fudge, I've seen heaps of GF wins and pie losses

Yeah, the finals system has changed in the last 4 decades.

'But McGovern's miss was not season defining....'

 

[Mayes2Gray]

Still tipping pies to finish stronger than Carlton.

 

[Arr0w]

Yeah, the finals system has changed in the last 4 decades.

'But McGovern's miss was not season defining....'

What defining "moment" has contributed to the Pies being in mexico

Please don't make a prediction, my sides can't handle the laughter

 

[carlton_99]

Carlton are fortunate they have 35 players in their best 22.

Not even looking at best 22 just total - not sure how Pies have "more"

 

[Fadge]

I think you really need to look at the fixturing. Carlton win all 3 games and they finish top 4.
You can have your scenarios, and we can have ours as well

A. You'd have to win ALL 3 games;
B. You'd have to rely on other teams losing.

The permutations and combinations would be a lot more favourable if McGovern slotted it last week.

'But not season shaping'.

 

[beerbandit]

Carlton are fortunate they have 35 players in their best 22.

I think if champion data did a stat on games lost to premiership players we would have them covered comfortably.

 

[beerbandit]

Never fear, the “Cavalry” are here!

 

[Madblue]

There’s little doubt we are the better side based on head to head, and the ladder position is just a quirk of more injuries and harsher fixturing.

What only two excuses ? Surely a few more ?

 

[Worm4]

A. You'd have to win ALL 3 games;
B. You'd have to rely on other teams losing.

The permutations and combinations would be a lot more favourable if McGovern slotted it last week.

'But not season shaping'.

You don't have to rely on others losing when they play each other -

This week
Brisbane v GWS
Freo v Cats
Melb v Port
Adelaide v bulldogs

Next week -
GWS V freo
Port v Crows

Final round
Bulldogs v giants
Freo v Port

Has to be a winner and loser generally, so part B of your statement will take care of itself

Up to Carlton to hit some form
It's collingwood who have to rely on other results to have any chance

 

[adammania9]

My first attempt at a ladder prediction that had Carlton winning all three still left them in fifth

 

[Fadge]

You don't have to rely on others losing when they play each other -

This week
Brisbane v GWS
Freo v Cats
Melb v Port
Adelaide v bulldogs

Next week -
GWS V freo
Port v Crows

Final round
Bulldogs v giants
Freo v Port

Has to be a winner and loser generally, so part B of your statement will take care of itself

Up to Carlton to hit some form
It's collingwood who have to rely on other results to have any chance

I think you need a new abacus.

There's actually a number of permutations that sees Carlton still finishing 6th, even if they win ALL 3 remaining games.

For example, if GWS and FREO lose all of their remaining games (except obviously the round 23 match against each other), Carlton finish behind Sydney, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Geelong and Bulldogs.

 

[Arr0w]

There's also a number of permutations where Carlton could finish 2nd

But in regard to this thread, Pies are no where near it

 

[Fadge]

My first attempt at a ladder prediction that had Carlton winning all three still left them in fifth

I've just run the numbers....

If Carlton win their remaining 3 games, there's still only a 29% probability they finish top 4.

29%.... now where have I heard that number before?

 

[Arr0w]

I've run the numbers, someone came out broke

 

[Worm4]

I think you need a new abacus.

There's actually a number of permutations that sees Carlton still finishing 6th, even if they win ALL 3 remaining games.

For example, if GWS and FREO lose all of their remaining games (except obviously the round 23 match against each other), Carlton finish behind Sydney, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Geelong and Bulldogs.

Carlton are 1 game behind Port. If they lose 2 of 3 , how does Carlton finish behind them ?

 

[Arr0w]

I'm going to have side splitting laughter again, aren't i

 

[Worm4]

I've just run the numbers....

If Carlton win their remaining 3 games, there's still only a 29% probability they finish top 4.

29%.... now where have I heard that number before?

What's the probability of Collingwood finishing top 4 ?

 

[Scritchyscroony]

For Posterity.

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Most Carlton ending to a game ever!

McGovern is usually an excellent kick. He really dug deep and channelled his inner Carlton there though.

 

[Fadge]

Carlton are 1 game behind Port. If they lose 2 of 3 , how does Carlton finish behind them ?

Clearly the implication is the other teams win their remaining 3 games....