Who's closer to a flag, Fremantle or West Coast?
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Bit of both to be honest. he forgot Brennan cox as well
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Yep Top 2 with the likes Of Masten in the team.
Yes - well.
Imo the range is much narrower then he believes. Trajectory is not being appropriately factored in.
- Darling gets double teamed, then free's up another forward, that is if Mcarthy can hold those chest marks.
Kersten is exactly another Jack Anothony for mine. Reasonable WAFL player at best. I am utterly unconvinced.
- Ballantyne has been useless for years. A liability. Boggles the mind how he remains on the list. I'll concede 3 years may have been a stretch after a 49 goal season. (Classic lazy bigfooty posting).
- Apeness - the suggestion was Darling wouldn't get a game because of Apeness and a few others. This guy can't and may never get on the park, making the assumption Darling wouldn't get a game even more absurd. I don't doubt his ability its just he can't get out there.
- I get the feeling with anything Ross lyon, Freo fans can't get over the fact he took your grand final virginity away and refuse to look objectively at whats going on. The hidings, the manner of the hidings, recruiting, drafting, dismal seemingly irrelevant style of play, the worst forward line + structure in the league hands down.
None of it is Ross' fault despite the glaring similarities in all these facets of his days at the saints and the mess he left when he departed.
Freo fans will defend him at any cost.
Your backline is more a strength than your forward line in my opinion, Because outside of Kennedy , And to a much lesser extent Darling There are some question marks .And i think you have either grossly underrated Hambling or grossly overrated your key defender options to say 5th , I would go as far to say the only one he lowers his colours to for sure is Mcgovern , McKenzie ?? debatable , Barrass ?? if you say so , Logue is a work in progress , Pearce i am not expecting too much from one game at a time approach , And Wilson will slot in like a glove i have no worries there , As far as 7 defenders MJ and Spurr are still at the club , And young Cox is more of a defender than a forward , Plus we have Blakeley , Hill and Mundy who run through there as rebounding options, Our backline has looked stronger in past years i will admit With MJ and Mcpharlin at their best , But we are rebuilding and 2018 looks another year outside the top 8 for that reason
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Darling not getting a game was only one mans opinion , And not one shared by the vast majority of Freo supporters
Even if you played your best 22 every week and Nic Nat returned to his all Australian form , Top 2 is a stretch ,Just hard to see who is winning the ball at the coalface for West coast , Like your optimism though, glass half full and all that
Yes he is a hack and I would rather play one man down than any of them!
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It will be Sheed and Redden.
Yes, not exactly the cream of the crop but they are both still young and you have to back them. Sheed in particular does have something there, I think he is capable of being close to A-grade if all things go well.
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Masten is no longer best 22, if he plays more than a couple of games this year we're already stuffed anyway.
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I was referring to last year
Really? Redden is a year older than Fyfe at 27 - wouldn’t realistically be expected to improve from here and yet hasn’t hit any great heights thus far.
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Redden still has years in him in my view, his game doesn't rely on athleticism or pace. I do agree though he hasn't hit any great heights, get the feeling he will be transitioned out quickly if one of our draft picks comes on (eg Venables).
He now is the number 1 inside mid, with more TOG and NicNat, he has no excuses not to improve and realistically, he actually should!!!
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Well you should speak in past tense, especially considering the post you replied too.
Also last years defence has changed dramatically over the summer, so no real point to your post!
For sure he will improve statistically. But in an underlying sense, not so much.
Remember the WC coaching panel, assuming they are rational, rated him a less effective inside mid than Priddis or Mitchell last year - even though most WC supporters consider the 2017 form of the latter two to have been poor.
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They were still very good inside mids for us. It was when the ball got to the outside that Priddis and to a lesser extent Mitchell became liabilities.
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How's it changed dramatically? You haven't played a game yet so how do you know how it will be structured?
So net/net are Redden/Sheed upgrades on Priddis/Mitchell in your view?
Passing comment from WC supporters seems to suggest that is possibly the case.
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Yes. Obviously not prime Priddis/Mitchell, but I am confident 2018 Redden/Sheed will be better than 2017 Priddis/Mitchell with someone like Naitanui palming it down their throats.
New players, returning players, retired players, ect ect, simplez!!!
But way to zero in and over emphasize the 'dramatically' aspect of my post!
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No, they are downgrades individually, although Redden and Sheed would be better than Priddis once the centre clearance has finished. But as far as the teams style and game play, we hopefully won't have to cover their man anymore with another player.
Personally, I am not a fan of Redden. I look forward to seeing Yeo, Ah Chee, Venables, Sheed, Duggan, Partington and Shuey become our onballers next year. Pretty young group but if they can at least break even, then we will do ok, with our great backline and efficient forward line.
I am not one of those who thinks top 2 but I think we can finish around the same position as last year, barring any crucial injuries. (6-10).
Part of my reasoning for this is that there are 3 or 4 teams as favourites and then a big group of teams that could be anywhere from 5th to 14th.
We lost most centre clearances last year and still won more quarters than any other side.
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Specifically what has changed though? Can you post last year's back 6 and what you think this years will be?
Naming a back 6 is pointless because it changed so much over the year, other than Hamling and Johnson, there was no player that was confident of being named the next week and the general consensus is Johnson will not play much this year!
Johnson, Spurr, Hamling, Wilson, Ryan, Logue, APearce, Cox, Nyhuis & Hughes are the defenders!
Mids like SHill, Blakely & Mundy will all run through there at times but, with the addition of Wilson, I don't know if one will be stationed there like seasons past!
I expect Johnson to get games early but, along with Spurr, and depending on form of player and club, to be injury backups as the season roles on!
The back 6 as I see it.
Ryan Hamling Hughes
Wilson APearce Logue (playing Johnson's role)
If you believe that is not significant change then you, in all honesty, have know idea!!!
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