Why do people really hate Hird?

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morgoth said:
The same Charter how used HGH to get over a serious foot injury.

Same Charter who was busted for drug dealing with Hird called as a witness.

Same Charter Hird was happy to have involved in the footy club.

Same Charter who got done for dealing in roids last week.

And Hird does all these business courses that include corporate governence.
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Sad part is we don't have any journos willing to confront him about the Charter relationship
 
Lavender Bushranger said:
It was pretty gutless, I must say.

School yard stuff. They had a whiff of victory and went early and with the help of some woeful blow ins flying the Essendon flag - created a bully mentality and went over the top (no pun intended).


If you detach yourself from your online persona, then 'personal' attacks aren't really even personal anyway.

I've actually put a few on the ignore list because of the personal stuff. Not that it upsets me, just that it genuinely ruins decent banter and debate. It's boring frankly. And predictable.
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And they were all so certain WADA weren't going to appeal and it would all be over and they could enjoy the fantastic season they think their club is having.:D Funny how many of them have suddenly disappeared.
 
Jack Gun Cyril Stun said:
And "nutritionally advised" by Shane Charter to all that glory as a player and then coincidentally a decade later as coach (without the glory part)...yeh all above board..give him another medal...maybe a knighthood.
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The many talents of Shane Charter. He'd be the #1 person to go to for nutritional advice of course. No one better at that. And there's all the other things he can help with.
 

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beechy12345 said:
Obviously does deserve a significant portion of blame but the attacks on him have been very personal. Robson, Reid, Corcoran etc have gotten off very lightly in comparison. The reason people despise him is the same reason people dislike guys like chris judd and nick reiwoldt - jealousy.
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Jealousy
1.
jealous resentment against a rival, a person enjoying success or advantage, etc., or against another's success or advantage itself.

Nope...can't say I'm jealous of hird in the slightest
 
Jack Gun Cyril Stun said:
And "nutritionally advised" by Shane Charter to all that glory as a player and then coincidentally a decade later as coach (without the glory part)...yeh all above board..give him another medal...maybe a knighthood.
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By all means give hird a knighthood after what he has been through.
Deserves a lot of credit for media harassment and all the abuse from the sheep that believe them.
Charters was advising others like Woewoden got any proof any banned peds were taken ,feel free to name the peds.
 
It must be his almost mythical coaching prowess that riles most people - the way he sees things 5 steps ahead of everyone else and his supreme knowledge of match-day tactics and opposition structures.....they might even win a final one day under such a brilliant mind.
 
why do i hate hird

well for starters he couldnt kick on his left
apart from that i think he has been on the gear since his first association with charter to aid recovery and help injury, this has now slid over to the playing group he has under him because he knew charters could get anything under the radar

once a cheat always always a cheat and will stop at nothing to get to the top and be the best
would have the idea in his head that its not cheating unless you get caught
 

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militiaa said:
Yes, he admits there were mistakes in the 2012 supplements regime as everyone would agree. But farrk me, the scrutiny he has copped has been unbelievable. The guy has yet to be proven to do anything else wrong and yet for some reason, torn to shreds by everyone.

For me, the last 6 months the way he has conducted him self and the way he stands by his beliefs I give him more respect than I ever have, and just going about his business and not giving a **** about the media in what they do or says with the persona they have created, and yet comes out of it all unscathed and still standing.
James Hird, you have my support.
Bravo mate!
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Probably, any other leader, would accept responsibility and step down.

He was involved, as seen in the txt messages. Any other CEO, or manager, that was part of that process, where employee health was damaged or at risk, they'd remove themselves from the organisation.

He has no moral culpability, his indignant approach is of someone who cannot grasp the moral and ethical dilemmas of leadership.
 
bomber c said:
By all means give hird a knighthood after what he has been through.
Deserves a lot of credit for media harassment and all the abuse from the sheep that believe them.
Charters was advising others like Woewoden got any proof any banned peds were taken ,feel free to name the peds.
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The others were a bit smarter to leave their association with Charter behind...but why on earth Hird continued his AFTER taking the role as coach at a minimum raises many suspicions...would you as senior coach want Charter associated with the club and you in any capacity ?
 
A guy I used to think was a good human being, has been shown to be a lying douchebag. And as he has been told he can do no wrong for so long has been shown to be someone who believes their own bullshit.

He has also been happy for everyone to be thrown under the bus in order for him to be saved.

I don't like when people are treated as demi gods who can do no wrong. Many people in sport, life in general I admire and like, but everyone is fallible.

All this doesn't add up to hate, but I do want what I believe for justice to be served, either that or him explaining exactly what happened without BS.
 
bomber c said:
By all means give hird a knighthood after what he has been through.
Deserves a lot of credit for media harassment and all the abuse from the sheep that believe them.
Charters was advising others like Woewoden got any proof any banned peds were taken ,feel free to name the peds.
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:drunk:
 
Lavender Bushranger said:
Well I got called the 'foamiest of foamers' recently.

Thought that was pretty cool. Might even get a t-shirt made up.
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I remember that! You pulled up okay then? :) I got told all my posts are crap and I'm finding it hard to pull through.

Dunno about you Lav - I like this thread suddenly. Probably means it will get locked though. Quick now - who else got called something?
 
Mancey said:
Jealousy
1.
jealous resentment against a rival, a person enjoying success or advantage, etc., or against another's success or advantage itself.

Nope...can't say I'm jealous of hird in the slightest
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I'd like his pay. Not so much for doing anything, but I probably would quite like it
 
Jack Gun Cyril Stun said:
The others were a bit smarter to leave their association with Charter behind...but why on earth Hird continued his AFTER taking the role as coach at a minimum raises many suspicions...would you as senior coach want Charter associated with the club and you in any capacity ?
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Only so we could get the good gear.
 
Chief said:
It is just flabbergasting how many Essendon people are clinging to this issue for dear life. Let it go. People have already forgotten. Just enjoy the footy. Nobody cares any more.
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I know you said it like 10 days ago and all, but still

"Flabbergasting"???

How did I miss that the first time around?
 
Jobe Watson said:
He's the Toorak mansion-owning, BMW-driving golden child who used to regularly rip teams new assholes as a player. He's a man that most would want to be like. Some deem his greatness as a player and pursuit of perfection as a coach as arrogance, and no doubt he cops hate because of that. Some truthers also want to believe that Hird set out to implement a doping program where his players would be knowingly injected with banned and dangerous drugs, and no matter how ridiculous this notion is, they continue to believe it - therefore, Hird refusing to "take responsibility" for this doping program provides another reason for people to hate him. Hird made mistakes, even the most supportive fan of his could admit this - he let the wrong people assume too much control. He copped a suspension and paid for those mistakes.

Really, the Hird fanaticism goes both ways... sure, if it was anyone else other than Hird as coach he probably wouldn't have the support from the Essendon faithful that Hird does, but conversely, if it was (say) Brendan McCartney who was coach during this saga, he wouldn't have received the hate nor media attention that Hird does.
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Oh please get your hand off it. I don't know whether you are trolling or simply a fanatic who truly believes this dribble.

To me he is a narcissistic prick of the highest order. I had no issue with what he did during his playing days. Many were doing it. And the rules were different back then. I do have an issue with him giving the ok for Dank to do what he did to the players. And IMO, Hird knew what Dank was doing...too many obvious signs:
  • Text messages between Dank and Hird
  • Charters involvement (FFS he is a known convicted drug peddler...what do you think he's doing?)
  • "United Nations" text to Corcoran
  • being injected himself with Hexarelin...on site no less. Shows acceptance.
Hird knew...black and white.

Hird was a true believer in Charters and Dank and their joojoo.

Just one man's opinion.
 
bomber c said:
By all means give hird a knighthood after what he has been through.
Deserves a lot of credit for media harassment and all the abuse from the sheep that believe them.
Charters was advising others like Woewoden got any proof any banned peds were taken ,feel free to name the peds.
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He has been so brave throughout this, hasn't he. Do you think Hirdy should have continued his relationship with Charter?
 
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