Moved Thread Why does Eddie decide what Jumper Port Adelaide can or can't wear?

[Jonts]

Do people realise that Port Adelaide in the SANFL wore Prison bars, not just black and white vertical stripes

 

[PowerForGood]

It's pretty basic gws. They're not allowed to wear the prison bars because it's not their jumper. They are the Port Power not the Port Adelaide Magpies. If Port want to stay in the national competition then they need to accept this. It can't be healthy for their football club obsessing over Collginwood's jumper all the time.

Absolutely correct.

Collingwood has the AFL behind it regarding this discussion, so as far as the AFL competition is concerned, Collingwood have the exclusive rights to the B&W stripes because of they got there first in this competition.

Having said that, this is where the VFL becoming the default National Competition has an inherent flaw, in that it automatically conveys historical superiority to Victorian clubs, under the guise of a National Competition. Can't change it, so I guess that is that. Who cares that Collingwood actually commenced playing in Victoria in b&w diagonal stripes (source - Argus), or that it took the Magpies moniker after a trip to play in SA and they liked the Piping Shrike SA emblem? Means nothing in this competition, AFL makes the decisions and we have to abide by them.

Although I am interested as to how Port Adelaide Magpies played in the Foxtel Cup (an AFL sanctioned competition) wearing the prison bar guernsey. Did they have to ask permission from AFL / Collingwood for that?

Completely hypothetically, I wonder what would happen if a higher authority (eg court challenge or state government law change) said that within South Australia, Port Adelaide as a club (not the AFL team or the SANFL team) has the right to its trademark and a National competition could not play in SA without meeting the requirements of that law. It wouldn't do that, but could it do that?

 

[PowerForGood]

Your argument might carry some weight except for the fact that the tradition and history of the Port Power started in 1997. As a Collingwood supporter I have no problem with other clubs celebrating their tradition, I do however have an issue with clubs inventing it.

You argument might carry some weight if it had any basis in fact.

If you can't tell the difference between a football club and a football team, then you shouldn't comment in a public forum.

 

[Jonts]

Do people realise that Port Adelaide in the SANFL wore Prison bars, not just black and white vertical stripes

 

[mcgarnacle]

It's pretty basic gws. They're not allowed to wear the prison bars because it's not their jumper. They are the Port Power not the Port Adelaide Magpies. If Port want to stay in the national competition then they need to accept this.

another fool. the Port Adelaide that competed in the SANFL is the same Port Adelaide that moved into the AFL in 1997 and competes today. The moniker is insignificant.

you might as well argue that the Geelong Pivotonians aren't the same club as the Geelong Cats, or even the Geelong from the early 2000s aren't the same club as the Geelong Cats now because they changed their official name from Geelong FC to the Geelong Cats FC.

Same goes for Melbourne from Fuschias to demons, Essendon from same olds to bombers, South Melbourne from bloods to swans, to Sydney swans, etc.

A new Port Adelaide was formed in 1997 to compete in the SANFL and called the magpies to maintain the heritage in the SANFL.

It can't be healthy for their football club obsessing over Collginwood's jumper all the time.

at least you've got that right. Collginwood would probably be the club's name if they ever left the AFL to play in another league. Eddie owns shit.

 

[radiojake]

Heh.. So Sydney can totally take on all of 'Blood's culture' yet, Port Adelaide's AFL team is a completely new club to the one that played 100+ years in the SANFL...

Logic -


Disclaimer.. I f*cking loathe Port Adelaide, but it does shit me when people troll with the est 1996 rubbish...

I would hate it if Norwood had managed to get the 2nd AFL license, and because they would have had to change colours to avoid a clash with Melbourne (I assume) doesn't mean their history would have dissapeared....

 

[Lach72]

I've never understood the issue if having two clubs with the same jumper. We have clash strips.

I agree. Man Utd and Liverpool have managed

 

[basashi]

No clubs can wear whatever they want be it at home or away.

I used "should" to indicate the desired state.

 

[smasha]

We need that Veruca Salt song I Want The World with Eddie's head superimposed.

Oogac the master?

 

[smasha]

Because Collingwood have a trademark on black and white used in a vertical patten.

Eddie's next stop is basketball refs then Juventus

Port Adelaide-1870.
Collingwood Magpies-1892.
Sorry Ed but Port can wear the black and white any bloody time they like.
Vlad "but,but but"

Shudaap you bumbling booby.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Whatever Eddie says goes, should of learnt that by now.

 

[smasha]

Didn't read loki04's post.

 

[FrancisX]

Wow never knew prison bars were so enviable

 

[greg62]

I prefer our present guernsey. Not really fussed whether they wear prison bars ever again.

 

[DrKrieger]

Is Collingwoods away guernsey just the inverted colours of their normal one? Reminds me a lot of how Essendon used to have a slightly fatter red stripe until the afl forced them to change.

 

[MarkT2]

Having said that, this is where the VFL becoming the default National Competition has an inherent flaw, in that it automatically conveys historical superiority to Victorian clubs, under the guise of a National Competition. Can't change it, so I guess that is that. Who cares that Collingwood actually commenced playing in Victoria in b&w diagonal stripes (source - Argus), or that it took the Magpies moniker after a trip to play in SA and they liked the Piping Shrike SA emblem? Means nothing in this competition, AFL makes the decisions and we have to abide by them.

Nice rant but Collingwood wore Black and white stripes before Port no matter how you measure it and that includes the renamed AFL in 1990 that Port were not a part of. On what basis could you possibly argue there was Victorian bias?

Although I am interested as to how Port Adelaide Magpies played in the Foxtel Cup (an AFL sanctioned competition) wearing the prison bar guernsey. Did they have to ask permission from AFL / Collingwood for that?

Given it is their jumper and not being the AFL that seems a pretty silly question.

 

[MarkT2]

I used "should" to indicate the desired state.

So clubs should be able to wear anything they want? Pandora's Box.

 

[Gus Poyet]

Because this is the AFL, not SANFL. If they want to wear a black and white stripped jumper **** off back to the SANFL.

 

[Gus Poyet]

Well we wouldn't expect you ton understand things that happened more than 20 years ago would we?

Just as we don't care about SANFL clubs. Nor should we.

 

[EOP26]

it's the same club, fool.

True - The Port Adelaide FC Fields two Different teams in two different Competitions

Port Adelaide Power - AFL

Port Adelaide Magpie – SANFL

 

[PowerForGood]

I agree. Man Utd and Liverpool have managed

Shhhh... we're better run than the EPL....

 

[basashi]

So clubs should be able to wear anything they want? Pandora's Box.

Write to the EPL. You may be able to help them avoid impending doom.

 

[B 52]

Do you sweetheart? Ever seen the SA state of origin Guernsey?
Or would you rather a big red sash? Like the one you guys wear proudly after winning nationals in the 2011/2012 drug cheat competition!

You mad honey ?

 

[Eddie Dingle]

Just as we don't care about SANFL clubs. Nor should we.

Just as no one in the EPL cares about your "other team" and nor should they.

 

[DrKrieger]

Nice rant but Collingwood wore Black and white stripes before Port no matter how you measure it

From wiki

The Port Adelaide Football Club was first founded on 20 April 1870

The Collingwood Football Club was established on 12 February 1892.

Hmmm, unless Port changed to the prison bars after Collingwood did?