Why has GWS done much better than Gold Coast?

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Both are still hopeless with the leg-ups they have received. Unbelievable neither have a flag. Look at all the other expansion teams (with the exception of Freo) that got AFL support.

So if this thread was why have both failed so miserably …probably the coaches and the poor building of culture. Yes it’s worse at the Suns but the Giants should have 2 or 3 flags by now

And please don’t say something inane like “it’s hard getting a flag”. No shit. It’s also hard getting a ridiculously awesome list and a shitlaod of great picks …for some
Should be worth noting that despite all the concessions GC in particular received to start up, their two best players right now were both results of further AFL handouts due to their poor management .

Sam Collins is a 2x B&F winner and was picked up in 2018 when GC and Carlton were allowed to list some state league players outside of the draft.

Noah Anderson was taken in 2019 from a priority pick due to their poor on field performance
 
Should be worth noting that despite all the concessions GC in particular received to start up, their two best players right now were both results of further AFL handouts due to their poor management .

Sam Collins is a 2x B&F winner and was picked up in 2018 when GC and Carlton were allowed to list some state league players outside of the draft.

Noah Anderson was taken in 2019 from a priority pick due to their poor on field performance
Ben King? Touk Miller? Jarrod Witts?
 

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Not as close to being elite in their positions as the aforementioned two, who are the last two B&F winners and constantly finishing up there
Fair enough. Well, I'd say Collins at least could have been selected by any other club when Freo delisted him. I think giving first crack at a state league player is an appropriate level of help for a struggling club. Pick 2 not so much, but it seemed to be a one-off given to Gold Coast as an admission by the AFL that they screwed up the initial conditions. I doubt it'll be repeated outside of first year clubs.
 

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