Why is abortion a live issue in Australian politics again?

[Seeds]

I think if you polled most people, they would say abortion isn't really a political issue and should be the mothers choice and they should have access to be able to do it.

Where people differ would be on the age limit where abortions are allowed to happen. 3mths/6,mths/9mths etc
Again its really the mothers choice of when it happens but people would have an idea on when best.

Mental health wise, there probably needs to be services available to potential mothers and fathers pre and post abortion.
It generally is a thing people are reluctant to talk about.

I have a mate who convinced his girl friend at the time to have an abortion as they were young and he felt too immature for a child. They broke up partly because of it (she wanted to have it) and he sometimes regrets it, like mentions how old they would have been.

Have also been in situation where ectopic pregnancy meant had to be aborted. Thats different. But leads to different potential outcomes if could have survived re future kids etc.

But what hit home to me was hearing someone talking about a chat he had with his dad, where he told his dad of the abortions they had had etc, he was similar young and wasn't ready. And his dad said why are you killing my grand children. He since had 4 kids, but does think about the ones that were aborted too.

Where do people believe life begins. for me it doesn't feel that real until they are born. But imagine it could be different for everyone.

And there was also that netflix documentary about that aus water polo player Kelli lane.

Um when life begin isnt up to you or people to decide based on how they feel. Your feels have no say in the matter. Its based on biology.

Consciousness begins in the womb. But it doesnt just suddenly appear with a bang. There is no distinct point in time when life is life. Even after babies are born there is much development still to happen.

 

[Todman]

Late term abortions of healthy babies/fetuses do happen. They are the exception rather than the rule. But to me it doesn’t seem like a fringe or extreme view that it shouldn’t be happening.

What surprises me is how a woman can go from "I'm having a Baby" carrying for 30+ weeks to "Get this parasite out of me and kill it." There has to be mental issues involved.

 

[ElectricG]

What surprises me is how a woman can go from "I'm having a Baby" carrying for 30+ weeks to "Get this parasite out of me and kill it." There has to be mental issues involved.

Or extreme carelessness and procrastination.

An uncommon thing I’m sure.

 

[faible]

What surprises me is how a woman can go from "I'm having a Baby" carrying for 30+ weeks to "Get this parasite out of me and kill it." There has to be mental issues involved.

Later term abortions aren't just a 'suddenly changed their mind' thing. Often they'd be health / complication related.

The idea that it's some kind of lifestyle choice or suddenly change of mind is a furphy.

For example, in Victoria:

Abortion after 24 weeks

[html different_values="0" format="ckeditor"]This fact sheet sets out questions and answers relating to abortion after 24 weeks in Victoria.[/html]

whv.org.au

Key messages:

• Under the current law, abortions after 24 weeks require the agreement of two doctors, taking into account the woman’s medical, physical, psychological and social circumstances.
• Abortions at this stage of pregnancy are very rare, but there will always be a small but very real need for these services, and the current law acknowledges this.
• The circumstances surrounding abortion after 24 weeks are very complex and it is difficult to speculate on each woman’s individual circumstances.
• Reasons for seeking abortions at this stage often involve factors like intimate partner violence, failure to recognise a pregnancy, and congenital abnormality.

 

[schneebly111]

What surprises me is how a woman can go from "I'm having a Baby" carrying for 30+ weeks to "Get this parasite out of me and kill it." There has to be mental issues involved.

Late term terminations basically only happen if a risk to the mother’s health or a severe foetal abnormality is discovered in the third (last) trimester. They comprise less than 1% of all terminations.

No woman carries a pregnancy for 30 weeks then suddenly decides to terminate it for “convenience”. Anti abortion groups try to spread rubbish than women can just choose to “get rid of a baby” right before birth and campaign to have it made illegal as the start of a slippery slope with the intent for all abortions to be banned.

Think I’m joking? I think the US state of Idaho is considering banning abortions even in the case of rape.

 

[ElectricG]

No woman carries a pregnancy for 30 weeks then suddenly decides to terminate it for “convenience”.

I guess not allowing that kind of abortion to take place would be a no brainer if it affects precisely zero people.

 

[liz]

Think I’m joking? I think the US state of Idaho is considering banning abortions even in the case of rape.

They won’t be the first. Several states already have a “no exceptions” law in place I believe, at least for surgical abortions. Medical abortions (ie early term, via medication) are harder for them to control but they’re trying their damnedest to do so.

 

[peetoo]

Late term terminations basically only happen if a risk to the mother’s health or a severe foetal abnormality is discovered in the third (last) trimester. They comprise less than 1% of all terminations.

No woman carries a pregnancy for 30 weeks then suddenly decides to terminate it for “convenience”. Anti abortion groups try to spread rubbish than women can just choose to “get rid of a baby” right before birth and campaign to have it made illegal as the start of a slippery slope with the intent for all abortions to be banned.

Think I’m joking? I think the US state of Idaho is considering banning abortions even in the case of rape.

One can only wonder what the mental anguish a woman goes through faced with that decision it must be horrific