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Current Wiembilla Shootings * Coronial Inquiry
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Sounds legit
Seem to remember it was some idea of using it as a retreat (not sure that's the correct term) for Police suffering PTSD.
Seems like the location of such a tragedy would not be likely to help and probably the opposite, IMO.
Dogs_R_Us
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Who does it belong to, legally? The relatives? I don’t think anyone else has a moral right to it.
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In some circumstances property can be seized or forfeited, I'm not sure exactly how it's done but the Police Union has asked the government's help in the acquisition.
The reasons stated are in the link below. Given the reports of crime through that area and the sov citizen type signage that's gone up in the towns, a bit more police activity/visibility probably isn't a bad idea and they can do some PR.
Union wants to prevent bushland site where two officers were shot dead from falling into hands of conspiracy theorists.
“The QPU would never want to see this land fall into the hands of any other anti-vaxxer, pro-gun conspiracy theorist, sovereign citizens who may seek to utilise the reputation of this site to promote their own dangerous and warped views,” said union head Ian Leaver.
Leavers told the Courier-Mail the land could be used for a retreat for officers, a training centre and be the site of a memorial.
The government is reportedly considering the proposal.
Queensland police union wants to buy Wieambilla property so it can’t be used to promote ‘warped views’
Union wants to prevent bushland site where two officers were shot dead from falling into hands of conspiracy theorists
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The Crime Commission I think can do it under 'proceeds of crime' which wouldn't apply here and victims of crime may have a case but I don't think the Police Union are suggesting it be seized under any of those mechanisms, they want to pay for it.
The police do buy property for various reasons, so does the government.
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I’m a bit uneasy about this proposal. What about Alan Dare’s property next door as well? His wife may want to sell up.In some circumstances property can be seized or forfeited, I'm not sure exactly how it's done but the Police Union has asked the government's help in the acquisition.
The reasons stated are in the link below. Given the reports of crime through that area and the sov citizen type signage that's gone up in the towns, a bit more police activity/visibility probably isn't a bad idea and they can do some PR.
Union wants to prevent bushland site where two officers were shot dead from falling into hands of conspiracy theorists.
“The QPU would never want to see this land fall into the hands of any other anti-vaxxer, pro-gun conspiracy theorist, sovereign citizens who may seek to utilise the reputation of this site to promote their own dangerous and warped views,” said union head Ian Leaver.
Leavers told the Courier-Mail the land could be used for a retreat for officers, a training centre and be the site of a memorial.
The government is reportedly considering the proposal.
Queensland police union wants to buy Wieambilla property so it can’t be used to promote ‘warped views’
Union wants to prevent bushland site where two officers were shot dead from falling into hands of conspiracy theoristswww.theguardian.com
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Might be another one with residents evacuated.
Police have declared an emergency after reports of gunfire at Tara on Queensland's Western Downs.
Officers responded to reports of shots fired at 3:30pm on Wednesday.
An emergency declaration was made at 5:30pm.
Police said no-one has been injured, but an area has been locked down, and several residents have been evacuated.
www.abc.net.au
Police have declared an emergency after reports of gunfire at Tara on Queensland's Western Downs.
Officers responded to reports of shots fired at 3:30pm on Wednesday.
An emergency declaration was made at 5:30pm.
Police said no-one has been injured, but an area has been locked down, and several residents have been evacuated.
Police investigate shooting incident at Tara
The boys — aged 14, 15 and two 16 year olds — are assisting police with their investigations into the incident in the town of Tara after a car was shot at.
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It is in the centre of town 65km away from the last siege.
Dogs_R_Us
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Fired at a police civilian’s car. Can’t expect to come out of this well.
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They've sent police tacticals in.
Police have made an emergency declaration and are hunting for a shooter after reports two officers were fired at in Tara, about three hours west of Brisbane.
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Police have made an emergency declaration and are hunting for a shooter after reports two officers were fired at in Tara, about three hours west of Brisbane.
Queensland Police cordon off area in Tara after shots fired at two officers
Police were responding to reports of shots fired in Tara, about three hours west of Brisbane.
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Police investigate shooting incident at Tara
The boys — aged 14, 15 and two 16 year olds — are assisting police with their investigations into the incident in the town of Tara after a car was shot at.
www.abc.net.au
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How two talented children were abandoned by cop-killing parents
Maddy Train has been left devastated by the conspiracy theorists' ambush which killed police constables Rachel McCrow, 29, and Matthew Arnold, 26, and neighbour Alan Dare, 59.
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So the Trains also have children, as well as parents. What a burden for them.How two talented children were abandoned by cop-killing parents
Maddy Train has been left devastated by the conspiracy theorists' ambush which killed police constables Rachel McCrow, 29, and Matthew Arnold, 26, and neighbour Alan Dare, 59.www.dailymail.co.uk
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How two talented children were abandoned by cop-killing parents
Maddy Train has been left devastated by the conspiracy theorists' ambush which killed police constables Rachel McCrow, 29, and Matthew Arnold, 26, and neighbour Alan Dare, 59.
The three of them were so selfish. The families of people who commit awful crimes can really suffer. I'm glad she's spoken up, it might help her moving forward and break some ground for her brother as well as going to our collective better understanding.
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Anyone watch the interview with the Trains’ daughter on channel 9? I forgot…
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ThanksI'll have to catch up online but I think most of it might be in here.
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It says in that 9 article that the footage shown was part 1 with part 2 being shown on Channel 9 at 6.00pm Monday.
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Cue the revelations/allegations from Madelyn Train tonight.
Police killers’ daughter tells of phone call hours before parents started shooting
Madelyn Train has revealed further details about a phone call she received before three people were gunned down at a rural Queensland property.
'Police killers’ daughter tells of phone call hours before parents started shooting'
'January 23, 2023 — 6.51pm''Madelyn had received a voicemail from a Walgett policeman about two hours before the Trains shot the constables, asking her to call him back. Madelyn said she had missed the call because she was at work but had planned to call back.
“I think they were contacting us to ask if Nathaniel was missing and to get contextual information,” she said.
“But they never should have sent anyone there until they got all the contextual information.”'
Police were preparing a report for the coroner, who would consider how Queensland and NSW police worked together, and how officers were briefed before attending the property.'
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'She said Nathaniel’s former wife Vanessa – before he left her and his job in NSW as a principal – had warned police before the shooting.
“She told police officers that there was a mistrust of police, like [Gareth] had a mistrust of police, and then the NSW police force apparently did not disclose that to Queensland Police Service,” she said.'
Dogs_R_Us
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There is an astounding lack of information-sharing between state police forces and agencies.Cue the revelations/allegations from Madelyn Train tonight.
Police killers’ daughter tells of phone call hours before parents started shooting
Madelyn Train has revealed further details about a phone call she received before three people were gunned down at a rural Queensland property.www.smh.com.au
'Police killers’ daughter tells of phone call hours before parents started shooting'
'January 23, 2023 — 6.51pm'
'Madelyn had received a voicemail from a Walgett policeman about two hours before the Trains shot the constables, asking her to call him back. Madelyn said she had missed the call because she was at work but had planned to call back.
“I think they were contacting us to ask if Nathaniel was missing and to get contextual information,” she said.
“But they never should have sent anyone there until they got all the contextual information.”'
Police were preparing a report for the coroner, who would consider how Queensland and NSW police worked together, and how officers were briefed before attending the property.'
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'She said Nathaniel’s former wife Vanessa – before he left her and his job in NSW as a principal – had warned police before the shooting.
“She told police officers that there was a mistrust of police, like [Gareth] had a mistrust of police, and then the NSW police force apparently did not disclose that to Queensland Police Service,” she said.'
She contradicts herself. I’m sure she said on Sunday night that there were no indications that they would do something like this. Then she says last night that the cops should have waited for contextual information.
Also didn’t believe that her mother fired on police.
Also didn’t believe that her mother fired on police.
Dogs_R_Us
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There's always hindsight, isn't there. Whether her mother fired on police or not, two officers were killed in cold blood; the SWAT team wouldn't have been asking any questions.
craffles
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Not sure if this has been posted but this absolutely cooked. Every video from the trains former YouTube channel.
