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Will be nice to meet you. I'll be wearing a dubious looking trenchcoat.
As a marketing student raised in a family of marketing and advertising workers, that set off something primal in me. Top post.If you want to get technical with information, heres something I learnt at Uni that kind of applies to this situation.
There is a term in Marketing called Corporate Visual Identity. Essentially its any visual cue that an organization can control and be identified by. This includes the use of logo's, colours, shapes etc.. Its the reason why McDonalds arch's can be universally identified, why no other soft drink manufacturer uses red packaging (Dr Pepper is owned by Coke) and why the Apple logo hasnt drastically changed in over 30 years.
There have been numerous studies into how Corporate Visual Identity affects reputation, and can ultimately define success. I wont bore you with the details of these studies, but they have established that there is a clear link between financially successful organizations, and their ability to create a different yet consistent CVI. The key is to be consistent. Use the same colour, the same logo and same visual elements, and people will begin to recognise your brand usually out of sheer habit and exposure. This is where the development of reputation and image starts for organisations.
But what about AFL teams. Well let's look at some of the Victorian clubs that have kept the same jumper design, and see if there is a link between that and success (on-field or off field)
Collingwood
Carlton
Essendon
Richmond
Geelong
Hawthorn
Is it a co-incidence that all of these clubs have strong followings, and history of success (some not so recently of course). Alot of this comes down to history , with these clubs having 150 years to develop their own reputation. There is no doubt that keeping the same jumper made them somewhat identifiable, and really gave them a strong reputation amongst footy fans. The Black and White stripes are synonymous with Collingwood, the Red Sash with Essendon, the Yellow and Black of Richmond, The baby poo of Hawthorn and the classic Geelong stripes. I'm not trying to suggest that the jumpers are the prime reason behind success, but they certainly are indicative of where these clubs sit in the overall scheme of things, and represent brand consistency
Now lets look at some of the clubs that have had a number of different jumpers throughout history.
St Kilda
Melbourne
Western Bulldogs
These clubs have had very little on-field success, and do not attract a huge amount of following. Most of these clubs have been around as long as the others, but during this time have made alterations to their playing strip, which I think has damaged their ability to be recognised by footy fans, and ultimately grow their supporter base. Once again, im not suggesting jumpers/colours are the be all and end all, but it certainly help to develop your club as a big name club regardless of on-field performance.
I used the Victorian teams as an example of what can be created with over 100 years of history. They have had time to keep this consistent visual identity and it has certainly helped some clubs really develop a supporter base .Look at Richmond's high attendances, despite the fact they have made 2 finals in over 10 years. Its the yellow and black army that everyone recognises. There is a real opportunity for the inter-state sides to start something similar so early on in their history. Right now, the main source of visual recognition comes from the Wings and the royal blue and yellow combination. This should be something that is fixed as soon as possible, and kept the same for as long as possible. We already have a strong culture of on-field success, and have generated 40,000+ members on the back of this. Imagine what we could do if we harnessed this reputation with a consistent colour and jumper that was recognisable and identifiable. We could be the first club with 100,000 members
TLDR = Return the ******* wings, it makes sense
Sam Butler has a bit of an issue there by the looks of itno issue
Sam Butler has a bit of an issue there by the looks of it
Great post...If you want to get technical with information, heres something I learnt at Uni that kind of applies to this situation.
There is a term in Marketing called Corporate Visual Identity. Essentially its any visual cue that an organization can control and be identified by. This includes the use of logo's, colours, shapes etc.. Its the reason why McDonalds arch's can be universally identified, why no other soft drink manufacturer uses red packaging (Dr Pepper is owned by Coke) and why the Apple logo hasnt drastically changed in over 30 years.
There have been numerous studies into how Corporate Visual Identity affects reputation, and can ultimately define success. I wont bore you with the details of these studies, but they have established that there is a clear link between financially successful organizations, and their ability to create a different yet consistent CVI. The key is to be consistent. Use the same colour, the same logo and same visual elements, and people will begin to recognise your brand usually out of sheer habit and exposure. This is where the development of reputation and image starts for organisations.
But what about AFL teams. Well let's look at some of the Victorian clubs that have kept the same jumper design, and see if there is a link between that and success (on-field or off field)
Collingwood
Carlton
Essendon
Richmond
Geelong
Hawthorn
Is it a co-incidence that all of these clubs have strong followings, and history of success (some not so recently of course). Alot of this comes down to history , with these clubs having 150 years to develop their own reputation. There is no doubt that keeping the same jumper made them somewhat identifiable, and really gave them a strong reputation amongst footy fans. The Black and White stripes are synonymous with Collingwood, the Red Sash with Essendon, the Yellow and Black of Richmond, The baby poo of Hawthorn and the classic Geelong stripes. I'm not trying to suggest that the jumpers are the prime reason behind success, but they certainly are indicative of where these clubs sit in the overall scheme of things, and represent brand consistency
Now lets look at some of the clubs that have had a number of different jumpers throughout history.
St Kilda
Melbourne
Western Bulldogs
These clubs have had very little on-field success, and do not attract a huge amount of following. Most of these clubs have been around as long as the others, but during this time have made alterations to their playing strip, which I think has damaged their ability to be recognised by footy fans, and ultimately grow their supporter base. Once again, im not suggesting jumpers/colours are the be all and end all, but it certainly help to develop your club as a big name club regardless of on-field performance.
I used the Victorian teams as an example of what can be created with over 100 years of history. They have had time to keep this consistent visual identity and it has certainly helped some clubs really develop a supporter base .Look at Richmond's high attendances, despite the fact they have made 2 finals in over 10 years. Its the yellow and black army that everyone recognises. There is a real opportunity for the inter-state sides to start something similar so early on in their history. Right now, the main source of visual recognition comes from the Wings and the royal blue and yellow combination. This should be something that is fixed as soon as possible, and kept the same for as long as possible. We already have a strong culture of on-field success, and have generated 40,000+ members on the back of this. Imagine what we could do if we harnessed this reputation with a consistent colour and jumper that was recognisable and identifiable. We could be the first club with 100,000 members
TLDR = Return the ******* wings, it makes sense
**** sake, it is too, where's my head atIsn't that stenglein? When is he back btw?
It's all the #returnthewings excitement...**** sake, it is too, where's my head at
If you want to get technical with information, heres something I learnt at Uni that kind of applies to this situation.
There is a term in Marketing called Corporate Visual Identity. Essentially its any visual cue that an organization can control and be identified by. This includes the use of logo's, colours, shapes etc.. Its the reason why McDonalds arch's can be universally identified, why no other soft drink manufacturer uses red packaging (Dr Pepper is owned by Coke) and why the Apple logo hasnt drastically changed in over 30 years.
There have been numerous studies into how Corporate Visual Identity affects reputation, and can ultimately define success. I wont bore you with the details of these studies, but they have established that there is a clear link between financially successful organizations, and their ability to create a different yet consistent CVI. The key is to be consistent. Use the same colour, the same logo and same visual elements, and people will begin to recognise your brand usually out of sheer habit and exposure. This is where the development of reputation and image starts for organisations.
But what about AFL teams. Well let's look at some of the Victorian clubs that have kept the same jumper design, and see if there is a link between that and success (on-field or off field)
Collingwood
Carlton
Essendon
Richmond
Geelong
Hawthorn
Is it a co-incidence that all of these clubs have strong followings, and history of success (some not so recently of course). Alot of this comes down to history , with these clubs having 150 years to develop their own reputation. There is no doubt that keeping the same jumper made them somewhat identifiable, and really gave them a strong reputation amongst footy fans. The Black and White stripes are synonymous with Collingwood, the Red Sash with Essendon, the Yellow and Black of Richmond, The baby poo of Hawthorn and the classic Geelong stripes. I'm not trying to suggest that the jumpers are the prime reason behind success, but they certainly are indicative of where these clubs sit in the overall scheme of things, and represent brand consistency
Now lets look at some of the clubs that have had a number of different jumpers throughout history.
St Kilda
Melbourne
Western Bulldogs
These clubs have had very little on-field success, and do not attract a huge amount of following. Most of these clubs have been around as long as the others, but during this time have made alterations to their playing strip, which I think has damaged their ability to be recognised by footy fans, and ultimately grow their supporter base. Once again, im not suggesting jumpers/colours are the be all and end all, but it certainly help to develop your club as a big name club regardless of on-field performance.
I used the Victorian teams as an example of what can be created with over 100 years of history. They have had time to keep this consistent visual identity and it has certainly helped some clubs really develop a supporter base .Look at Richmond's high attendances, despite the fact they have made 2 finals in over 10 years. Its the yellow and black army that everyone recognises. There is a real opportunity for the inter-state sides to start something similar so early on in their history. Right now, the main source of visual recognition comes from the Wings and the royal blue and yellow combination. This should be something that is fixed as soon as possible, and kept the same for as long as possible. We already have a strong culture of on-field success, and have generated 40,000+ members on the back of this. Imagine what we could do if we harnessed this reputation with a consistent colour and jumper that was recognisable and identifiable. We could be the first club with 100,000 members
TLDR = Return the ******* wings, it makes sense
Although, if we absolutely had to have a white strip, the one that Mr Eagle posted earlier would not be a complete disasterNuff said! No ochre, no navy, no white. Just royal blue and gold
Just make sure that he doesn't sit in the meeting rubbing his nipplesGet Happy Eagle over there asap!
The current logo looks shit in one colour, if we're going to do that bring back the original logo.
it looks terrible.Costa's eagle head would be the way to go if we are going to change it. Modern and fresh while giving a nod to legendary original.
Nothing beats the original for me, the current logo is probably better for corporate/merchandise stuff (think paddlepop lion) but the old logo is much better suited for the jumpers (think Fitzroy lion).
WC are no strangers to having one logo but having a completely different eagle on the jumpers.
I still can't believe that was our home jumper for so ******* long. the current tripanel is crap but it has nothing on the original.
I liked that jumper a lot more when I realised the Eagle was in the shape of WA. It got up to a 1/10!
People keep saying it looks like WA's coast. I've spent weeks at a time looking at it and I'm sorry, but I can't see it. It just looks like a kid has chucked up and then walked through its own vomit.