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The West Coast Wonders. The Mount Buller Demons. The two biggest and oldest club in the land.
In Round 5 of this season, the two face off in what will be the 500th home and away game for both clubs.
It doesn’t get much bigger than this.
The West Coast Wonders entered the competition as a Foundation Club in Season 1, under the name the “Seventh Wonders”. The club was established by league legend and Hall of Famer eagleskickass, after whom the EKA Medal was named.
The Wonders enjoyed immediate success, claiming the Season 1 premiership with a 37 point victory over the now-defunct Team Kournikova.
Since the initial success (and name change to the “West Coast Wonders” in Season 7), the Wonders have undeniably become a powerhouse, with premierships in Season 13, Season 15, Season 17, and Season 21.
In Season 29, the Wonders continue their quest to be the #firsttosix.
The Mount Buller Demons also entered the competition as a Foundation Club. Indeed, the Wonders and the Demons are the two last clubs remaining from the league’s first season.
Previously (and until Season 3) “Team Pump”, the Demons were established on the back of work from the club’s first captain, BIG POPPA PUMP.
They have not enjoyed the same success as the Wonders. In fact, their breakthrough premiership didn’t come until Season 18 under the leadership of Eth. They added their second flag in Season 26.
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In Season 1, there were seven teams in the league, including Team Kournikova, Dragons, Team Timmy, Pagans Ducks, and Dingos. And, of course, the Wonders and Demons. As the two remaining Foundation Clubs, the Wonders and Demons now play for The Foundation Cup, which will again by up for grabs in Round 5. Previous results have been varied:
Code:
Season/Round Home Team Away Team Ground
S01 R02 Team Pump 26.18 (174) defeated Seventh Wonders 18.19 (127) Snow Dome
S01 R09 Seventh Wonders 11.9 (75) lost to Team Pump 18.15 (123) Wonder Land
S01 1SF Team Pump 11.16 (82) lost to Seventh Wonders 19.12 (126) Snow Dome
S02 R06 Team Pump 15.9 (99) lost to Seventh Wonders 21.11 (137) Snow Dome
S02 R13 Seventh Wonders 14.7 (91) defeated Team Pump 10.10 (70) Wonder Land
S03 R07 Seventh Wonders 12.10 (82) lost to Mount Buller Demons 23.10 (148) Wonder Land
S03 R16 Mount Buller Demons 17.6 (108) defeated Seventh Wonders 13.15 (93) Snow Dome
S04 R10 Seventh Wonders 15.17 (107) lost to Mount Buller Demons 18.17 (125) Wonder Land
S04 R23 Mount Buller Demons 12.13 (85) lost to Seventh Wonders 14.13 (97) Snow Dome
S05 R11 Mount Buller Demons 24.13 (157) defeated Seventh Wonders 16.9 (105) RR Snow Dome
S05 R22 Seventh Wonders 9.13 (67) lost to Mount Buller Demons 13.11 (89) Wonder Land
S06 R01 Mount Buller Demons 12.9 (81) lost to Seventh Wonders 15.11 (101) Snow Dome
S06 R13 Seventh Wonders 15.7 (97) defeated Mount Buller Demons 13.17 (95) Wonder Land
S07 R05 West Coast Wonders 11.4 (70) lost to Mount Buller Demons 15.11 (101) Subiaco Oval
S07 R17 Mount Buller Demons 12.6 (78) defeated West Coast Wonders 6.7 (43) Snow Dome
S08 R07 West Coast Wonders 15.13 (103) lost to Mount Buller Demons 18.14 (122) Subiaco Oval
S08 R13 Mount Buller Demons 12.9 (81) lost to West Coast Wonders 13.12 (90) Snow Dome
S08 R21 West Coast Wonders 13.8 (86) lost to Mount Buller Demons 13.9 (87) Subiaco Oval
S09 R02 Mount Buller Demons 10.7 (67) lost to West Coast Wonders 13.6 (84) Snow Dome
S09 R11 West Coast Wonders 14.5 (89) lost to Mount Buller Demons 18.16 (124) Subiaco Oval
S10 R03 West Coast Wonders 18.13 (121) defeated Mount Buller Demons 13.9 (87) Subiaco Oval
S10 R10 Mount Buller Demons 18.16 (114) defeated West Coast Wonders 14.11 (95) Snow Dome
S10 R17 West Coast Wonders 18.12 (120) defeated Mount Buller Demons 14.17 (101) Subiaco Oval
S11 R01 West Coast Wonders 11.12 (78) defeated Mount Buller Demons 10.11 (71) Subiaco Oval
S11 R08 Mount Buller Demons 10.11 (71) lost to West Coast Wonders 11.9 (75) Snow Dome
S11 R15 West Coast Wonders 15.13 (103) defeated Mount Buller Demons 12.15 (87) Subiaco Oval
S12 R02 West Coast Wonders 14.11 (95) lost to Mount Buller Demons 24.18 (162) Subiaco Oval
S12 R09 Mount Buller Demons 6.10 (46) lost to West Coast Wonders 11.6 (72) Snow Dome
S12 1SF West Coast Wonders 14.17 (101) defeated Mount Buller Demons 11.13 (79) Subiaco Oval
S13 R01 Mount Buller Demons 11.7 (73) defeated West Coast Wonders 8.13 (61) Snow Dome
S13 R08 West Coast Wonders 14.7 (91) defeated Mount Buller Demons 12.10 (82) Subiaco Oval
S13 R15 Mount Buller Demons 7.9 (51) lost to West Coast Wonders 14.5 (89) Snow Dome
S14 R02 West Coast Wonders 9.9 (63) lost to Mount Buller Demons 17.15 (117) Subiaco Oval
S14 R09 Mount Buller Demons 13.19 (97) lost to West Coast Wonders 14.19 (103) Snow Dome
S15 R07 Mount Buller Demons 12.13 (85) defeated West Coast Wonders 12.9 (81) Snow Dome
S15 R14 West Coast Wonders 12.7 (79) defeated Mount Buller Demons 11.3 (69) The Colosseum
S16 R07 West Coast Wonders 17.10 (112) defeated Mount Buller Demons 14.8 (92) The Colosseum
S16 R16 Mount Buller Demons 13.7 (85) lost to West Coast Wonders 18.8 (116) The Snow Dome
S17 R09 Mount Buller Demons 12.13 (85) defeated West Coast Wonders 11.15 (81) Snow Dome
S17 R18 West Coast Wonders 16.4 (100) defeated Mount Buller Demons 12.8 (80) The Colosseum
S17 PF Mount Buller Demons 10.4 (64) lost to West Coast Wonders 11.12 (78) Snow Dome
S18 R06 West Coast Wonders 18.6 (114) lost to Mount Buller Demons 24.11 (155) The Colosseum
S18 R12 Mount Buller Demons 13.17 (95) defeated West Coast Wonders 7.6 (48) The Snow Dome
S19 R08 Mount Buller Demons 16.9 (105) defeated West Coast Wonders 7.3 (45) Snow Dome
S19 R15 West Coast Wonders 17.12 (114) defeated Mount Buller Demons 8.7 (55) The Colosseum
S20 R11 Mount Buller Demons 16.23 (119) defeated West Coast Wonders 10.4 (64) Snow Dome
S20 R16 Mount Buller Demons 14.9 (93) defeated West Coast Wonders 12.2 (74) Snow Dome
S21 R11 West Coast Wonders 16.7 (103) defeated Mount Buller Demons 11.14 (80) The Colosseum
S22 R06 Mount Buller Demons 18.4 (112) defeated West Coast Wonders 13.6 (84) Snow Dome
S22 R17 West Coast Wonders 14.7 (91) lost to Mount Buller Demons 14.9 (93) The Colosseum
S22 2EF Mount Buller Demons 15.10 (100) lost to West Coast Wonders 18.14 (122) Snow Dome
S23 R06 Mount Buller Demons 18.10 (118) lost to West Coast Wonders 20.10 (130) Snow Dome
S23 R12 West Coast Wonders 16.15 (111) defeated Mount Buller Demons 8.12 (60) The Colosseum
S24 R06 West Coast Wonders 12.7 (79) lost to Mount Buller Demons 21.5 (131) The Colosseum
S25 R01 Mount Buller Demons 9.12 (66) lost to West Coast Wonders 20.6 (126) Snow Dome
S25 R12 West Coast Wonders 14.13 (97) defeated Mount Buller Demons 8.9 (57) The Colosseum
S26 R08 West Coast Wonders 13.8 (86) lost to Mount Buller Demons 18.15 (123) The Colosseum
S26 QF Mount Buller Demons 10.8 (68) defeated West Coast Wonders 8.6 (54) Snow Dome
S27 R04 West Coast Wonders 20.8 (128) lost to Mount Buller Demons 21.9 (135) The Colosseum
S27 R12 Mount Buller Demons 18.7 (115) defeated West Coast Wonders 9.7 (61) Snow Dome
S28 R07 Mount Buller Demons 21.14 (140) defeated West Coast Wonders 18.8 (116) Snow Dome
S28 R13 West Coast Wonders 13.18 (96) defeated Mount Buller Demons 9.5 (59) The Colosseum
Which leaves us at a count of WONDERS 31 - 31 DEMONS.
Collectively notching up home and away game #1,000, you can see the influence the two clubs have had on the league. Here is the all-time home and away ladder as of the end of Season 28, with thanks to Ljp86.
All Time Home and Away Ladder after Season 28
Code:Team P W L D Pen Bon For Agnst % Win% Pts Change Prem Spoon Mount Buller Demons 495 258 235 2 12 2 49030 48243 101.63 52.12 1026 - 2 4 West Coast Wonders 495 256 237 2 13 - 47790 48563 98.41 51.77 1015 - 5 1 Fighting Furies 469 243 222 4 9 - 45483 44521 102.16 51.81 971 - 5 3 Gumbies FFC 451 226 220 5 33 - 43452 43492 99.91 50.11 881 - 1 3 Baghdad Bombers 451 213 233 6 13 - 42232 43991 96.00 47.23 851 - 5 2 East Side Hawks 405 214 187 4 21 - 38688 37921 102.02 52.84 843 - 1 2 Dragons FFC 361 194 162 5 9 - 34957 34310 101.89 53.74 777 - 2 - Roys FFC 430 194 233 3 14 - 40696 41584 97.86 45.12 768 - 2 3 Sin City Swamprats 323 158 159 6 1 - 31789 31081 102.28 48.91 643 - 2 2 Las Vegas Bears 245 111 132 2 10 - 24881 24252 102.59 45.31 438 - 1 1 Gold City Royals 215 97 115 3 1 - 20814 21411 97.21 45.12 393 - - 2 Coney Island Warriors 179 92 84 3 2 - 18088 17584 102.87 51.40 372 - - - Titans FC 112 57 54 1 1 - 11420 11189 102.06 50.89 229 - - - Razors 78 36 42 - 1 - 7949 8170 97.29 46.15 143 - - - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dragons FC 66 32 34 - 1 - 6276 6398 98.09 48.48 127 - - 1 Junkyard Dogs 68 23 44 1 1 - 6535 6990 93.49 33.82 93 - - 1 Fremantle Dockers 46 22 24 - - - 4191 4306 97.33 47.83 88 - - - Hurricanes 32 21 10 1 - - 3319 3018 109.97 65.63 86 - 1 - The Mod Squad 39 16 22 1 - - 3571 3878 92.08 41.03 66 - - 1 West Coast Magic 42 17 25 - 4 - 3656 4043 90.28 40.48 64 - 1 1 Blues Brothers 24 16 8 - 2 - 2530 2265 111.69 66.67 62 - - - Darkness Eternal 32 14 17 1 - - 3020 3153 95.78 43.75 58 - - - AFL AllStars 40 14 25 1 2 - 3526 3792 92.99 35.00 56 - - - BigFooty Dragons 26 13 12 1 - - 2776 2685 103.39 50.00 54 - - - Southern Sharks 22 14 8 - 3 - 1936 1757 110.18 63.64 53 - - - Koalas 22 10 12 - - - 2160 2042 105.77 45.45 40 - - - Team Timmy 12 6 6 - - - 1166 1252 93.13 50.00 24 - - - Dingos 12 3 9 - - - 1277 1536 83.13 25.00 12 - - -
In the lead-up to Round 5, co-captain of the Wonders Dingster and captain of the Demons manangatang were kind enough to answer some questions.
HEADLESS:
Ding, mang, thanks for joining me. We've made it to Season 29, and we're fast approaching what is always the biggest game of the season: Wonders v. Demons. What does The Foundation Cup mean to the both of you?
MANANGATANG:
In relative terms, I’m a whippersnapper around the league, so my personal experience with the rivalry is limited.
However, I am well aware of what our proud club’s rivalry with the Wonders means to my more experienced teammates.
People say that ‘hate’ is a strong word. Well, I’ve seen our guys use stronger against this bunch of arrogant turds.
I’d like to go with the ‘yeah nah it’s just another game hey?’ trope, but it’s not true. They are our natural enemy and we’ll claim that goddamn cup if it means killing every single last one of them (on the Qooty field).
DINGSTER:
Coming into the Wonders there was plenty of experienced player like SSwans2011, ClarkeM and BallaratBulldog who pass down the rivalry between the two clubs and there's no doubt there's an extra pep during the week. Ex Wonder and Demon okeydoke7 was another who was really passionate about this match up.
So as captain I want every Wonder to hit that week hard and make a presence. Get involved, fly the flag and keep the Foundation Cup.
HEADLESS:
Over the years, both teams have enjoyed success, but the Wonders more so. What do you put that down to?
MANANGATANG:
Simple. Cheating.
That and the fact that we don’t really care as much about winning as we do being insular.
DINGSTER:
We're simply better. We respect the Dees as an opponent but we want it more.
HEADLESS:
Speaking of respect, that's something I've noticed in my time in the league. Both teams want to win, but I feel there's a mutual respect that comes with being a Foundation Club. Is that something you agree with and, if so, are there any players from the opposition you particularly enjoy engaging with?
DINGSTER:
Without question. Both teams come to play so the quality is always there. The experienced players really step up such as yourself, Tarkyn_24, DemonJim, cats2rise and sausageroll. Mang as captain always brings it and Callums_Guns looks to really embrace the occasion.
MANANGATANG:
Well I guess we respect them to a degree. We respect them enough to hate them.
I love bantering with Ding and Elton and laughing with/at Bono. I’d love to see Cactus_ back and posting more - he has a great mix of wit and aggression. B52 is verbose but engaging.
The rest of them are campaigners.
HEADLESS:
Ding, you mentioned okeydoke7, who has played for both teams. In your view, how important are players like okey who focus on league lore?
DINGSTER:
Massive. Even as someone who has been around a few seasons, I fed off Okey's passion in these games. There is a responsibility for the experienced players and leaders like Elton Johns Wig and U2tigers to keep that flame burning to keep it special.
HEADLESS:
manangatang, from your end, how does the Wonders v. Demons match-up feel in comparison to other rivalries you've encountered in your time?
MANANGATANG:
It definitely has an extra intensity.
When I moved over here from the Furies, I really hadn’t noticed the Wonders all that much. The Furies hate everyone equally, so there’s nothing particularly special about any opponent.
When I arrived at Mt. Buller, all was convivial until we hit the Wonders. It was instantly identifiable what the matchup means in the history of the league. The big boys from both sides come out to play.
I hope to keep the fire burning.
HEADLESS:
Great perspectives, friends. Just lastly, do you think ClarkeM's record is more impressive at the Wonders or the Demons?
DINGSTER:
Clarkey is pure Wonder. Don't be stupid Headless.
MANANGATANG:
I don’t even know who that is. So I’ll say the Demons.
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