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WRFL Div 2 Discussion 2024

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lethalweapon003 said:
Gee you love potting Newport. Ever actually met some of the people there? Can guarantee there are as many great people as any other club. And as many clowns as well. Its a different culture to most but its still a footy club.

Bachar will contribute more than he will ever owe to them next year and beyond. The club will surprise more than you think.
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Too right. I went to newport last year for a praccy match, good club with good people. Would go there and watch a game if I was in the area for sure. Found Sunshine to be the same way also!

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lethalweapon003 said:
Gee you love potting Newport. Ever actually met some of the people there? Can guarantee there are as many great people as any other club. And as many clowns as well. Its a different culture to most but its still a footy club.

Bachar will contribute more than he will ever owe to them next year and beyond. The club will surprise more than you think.
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Newport are a very competitive club and a very competitive footy team. Have been ever since they returned 8 or 10 years ago. As a new club, adapted very quickly to the old D3 (won it year 1?), and then adjusted just as quickly to the old D2.

Doubt they will be tailed off next season in D1, their competiveness as a club won't allow it. They would need some good signings, but they could surprise and compete well.

Langshaw might see some close games next season.
 
Dogs till i die said:
Newport are a very competitive club and a very competitive footy team. Have been ever since they returned 8 or 10 years ago. As a new club, adapted very quickly to the old D3 (won it year 1?), and then adjusted just as quickly to the old D2.

Doubt they will be tailed off next season in D1, their competiveness as a club won't allow it. They would need some good signings, but they could surprise and compete well.

Langshaw might see some close games next season.
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Hearing they’re throwing some money around as well so they may actually be able to compete in Div 1
 

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Rockbank just appointed an assistant coach from Nth Sunshine?? I really hope the kid goes alright but this is a bizarre call.
 
Fozz1908 said:
Rockbank just appointed an assistant coach from Nth Sunshine?? I really hope the kid goes alright but this is a bizarre call.
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Just because he was at nrth sunny doesn't mean shit mate, nrth have no players, rams are way ahead and seems like a good place for him, also look at his cv! Not bad for a young bloke
 
Fozz1908 said:
Rockbank just appointed an assistant coach from Nth Sunshine?? I really hope the kid goes alright but this is a bizarre call.
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It’s a good position for a young aspiring coach imo. I’m also positive there wouldn’t be people knocking down the rams door to coach them either. Plus what type of coin they offering for the position..
Good on young Grech for having a crack I say. 👍 and the Rams for giving him the opportunity..
 
Turbos mail said:
It’s a good position for a young aspiring coach imo. I’m also positive there wouldn’t be people knocking down the rams door to coach them either. Plus what type of coin they offering for the position..
Good on young Grech for having a crack I say. 👍 and the Rams for giving him the opportunity..
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Not knocking a young bloke for having a go.

but if I've won 2 games in 6 years... I'm not hiring a bloke from the one team we did beat that had a percentage of 4.
 
youraveragejoeblow2 said:
Just because he was at nrth sunny doesn't mean shit mate, nrth have no players, rams are way ahead and seems like a good place for him, also look at his cv! Not bad for a young bloke
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Yeah... 6 different clubs in the last 6 seasons. Amazing CV. Lazy by Rockbank... They haven't done any homework on the bloke at all. Hope he sticks it out.
 
GlenOrdan said:
4 coaches, 5 presidents and counting in 4 years.

Ya couldnt make this stuff up.

My mate tells me there is a handful of nuffies running the joint that have no idea.

Good luck coach you will need it 👍
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Always doubters for struggling clubs, would love to see him have the opportunity as a head coach and make the club competitive, keep putting down the club mate, they will win a few
 
Fozz1908 said:
Not knocking a young bloke for having a go.

but if I've won 2 games in 6 years... I'm not hiring a bloke from the one team we did beat that had a percentage of 4.
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I dont know much about the clubs in question but if things are as bleak as you make out, how many well credentialed applicants do you think they'd have had for the role?
Who should they have targeted?

I'm sure they'd also love a bunch of high quality footballers to walk in & play for free too but you've got to be a little realistic.
 

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youraveragejoeblow2 said:
Always doubters for struggling clubs, would love to see him have the opportunity as a head coach and make the club competitive, keep putting down the club mate, they will win a few
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They struggle because of their decisions
This is another one
But let’s face it…. There isn’t much hope when you are positioned where they are!!


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Dogs till i die said:
Newport are a very competitive club and a very competitive footy team. Have been ever since they returned 8 or 10 years ago. As a new club, adapted very quickly to the old D3 (won it year 1?), and then adjusted just as quickly to the old D2.

Doubt they will be tailed off next season in D1, their competiveness as a club won't allow it. They would need some good signings, but they could surprise and compete well.

Langshaw might see some close games next season.
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You are correct Doggie Boy and despite the club's inclusiveness, most hope that Newport will do well.
However Newport didn't return: a new club named Newport was formed after the original Newport Football Club disbanded
Dogs till i die said:
Newport are a very competitive club and a very competitive footy team. Have been ever since they returned 8 or 10 years ago. As a new club, adapted very quickly to the old D3 (won it year 1?), and then adjusted just as quickly to the old D2.

Doubt they will be tailed off next season in D1, their competiveness as a club won't allow it. They would need some good signings, but they could surprise and compete well.

Langshaw might see some close games next season.
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You are correct, Doggie Boy. Despite the club’s perceived exclusivity, most in the West hope that they can rise above any antipathy and be successful.

However, on a different note, Newport didn’t return. A new club named Newport was born.

The new club, Newport, was formed with new colors, a new guernsey, a different home ground, a completely different committee, and a completely new group of players, none of whom had any affiliation with the now-defunct club.

The original Newport Football Club, formed before 1900, disbanded after the 1996 season due to a combination of financial difficulties and declining onfield performance.

When a club has been disbanded, that’s it - finito! It can’t be resurrected. However, a club adopting the name of the original club is fine, but it can’t adopt the history of the former club.

Nevertheless, many here in the West hope the Newport Football Club has a successful future.
 
SeaSide said:
You are correct Doggie Boy and despite the club's inclusiveness, most hope that Newport will do well.
However Newport didn't return: a new club named Newport was formed after the original Newport Football Club disbanded


You are correct, Doggie Boy. Despite the club’s perceived exclusivity, most in the West hope that they can rise above any antipathy and be successful.

However, on a different note, Newport didn’t return. A new club named Newport was born.

The new club, Newport, was formed with new colors, a new guernsey, a different home ground, a completely different committee, and a completely new group of players, none of whom had any affiliation with the now-defunct club.

The original Newport Football Club, formed before 1900, disbanded after the 1996 season due to a combination of financial difficulties and declining onfield performance.

When a club has been disbanded, that’s it - finito! It can’t be resurrected. However, a club adopting the name of the original club is fine, but it can’t adopt the history of the former club.

Nevertheless, many here in the West hope the Newport Football Club has a successful future.
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Thanks SS you are quite right of course, poor use of words by me. Funny how one can think one way but express it in a way that provides a different meaning!!

I remember there was some apprehension within the WRFL when a club initially called "Newport United" applied to join about 20 years due to the impression left by the previous Newport entity. "United" quickly became "Power" and morphed into the 2 current Newport entities, Power and Panthers.

Anyway, am hoping Newport Panthers can compete in D1, confident they can.
 
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SeaSide said:
You are correct Doggie Boy and despite the club's inclusiveness, most hope that Newport will do well.
However Newport didn't return: a new club named Newport was formed after the original Newport Football Club disbanded


You are correct, Doggie Boy. Despite the club’s perceived exclusivity, most in the West hope that they can rise above any antipathy and be successful.

However, on a different note, Newport didn’t return. A new club named Newport was born.

The new club, Newport, was formed with new colors, a new guernsey, a different home ground, a completely different committee, and a completely new group of players, none of whom had any affiliation with the now-defunct club.

The original Newport Football Club, formed before 1900, disbanded after the 1996 season due to a combination of financial difficulties and declining onfield performance.

When a club has been disbanded, that’s it - finito! It can’t be resurrected. However, a club adopting the name of the original club is fine, but it can’t adopt the history of the former club.

Nevertheless, many here in the West hope the Newport Football Club has a successful future.
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That's not entirely correct, Newport were kicked out of the league in 1999 because of poor on field and off field behaviours, something that has plagued the recent Newport club since they were reformed.

I cant see a problem with them including the history of the old club.
 
Dogs till i die said:
Thanks SS you are quite right of course, poor use of words by me. Funny how one can think one way but express it in a way that provides a different meaning!!

I remember there was some apprehension within the WRFL when a club initially called "Newport United" applied to join about 20 years due to the impression left by the previous Newport entity. "United" quickly became "Power" and morphed into the 2 current Newport entities, Power and Panthers.

Anyway, am hoping Newport Panthers can compete in D1, confident they can.
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Newport Power juniors started with one u10 team back in the early 2000s, the seniors then formed some ten or so years later once the juniors started come through. So 'United' never became 'Power' at all, it was always Newport Power way before the seniors were even heard of
 
ROOS77 said:
Newport Power juniors started with one u10 team back in the early 2000s, the seniors then formed some ten or so years later once the juniors started come through. So 'United' never became 'Power' at all, it was always Newport Power way before the seniors were even heard of
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I witnessed the Agenda item for that particular WRFL meeting considering the application to join from "Newport United" about that time.

Probably just a working name adopting "Power" before they played a game.

Just semantics though.
 
I agree with Inverleigh - they seemed to have been in recess more than disbanded as some clubs have been known to keep committees and bank accounts going and run social events to try and generate revenue and interest to try and come out of recess. Kinglake springs to mind as an example (went into recess at the end of 1980 and returned in 1990).

Carrum-Patterson Lakes - to me that's a bit of a stretch unless they had a junior club going in the meantime that could be used as a connection because 18 years is a bit of a gap. I am not well versed on the newer club but if the club's Wikipedia page was written by someone connected with the club then the use of the word "disbanding" is interesting:

"The club disbanded at the end of the 1995 season, but reformed 18 years later as the Carrum Paterson Lakes Football Club, joining the Southern Football Netball League (SFNL) in 2013.[2] As of 2023, the club plays in Division 3 of the SFNL."

I think you can almost draw similarities between CPL and Toongabbie (revived somewhere around the 1990s and played for a couple of seasons after an absence of many years).
 
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MortlockWatcher said:
I agree with Inverleigh - they seemed to have been in recess more than disbanded as some clubs have been known to keep committees and bank accounts going and run social events to try and generate revenue and interest to try and come out of recess. Kinglake springs to mind as an example (went into recess at the end of 1980 and returned in 1990).

Carrum-Patterson Lakes - to me that's a bit of a stretch unless they had a junior club going in the meantime that could be used as a connection because 18 years is a bit of a gap. I am not well versed on the newer club but if the club's Wikipedia page was written by someone connected with the club then the use of the word "disbanding" is interesting:

"The club disbanded at the end of the 1995 season, but reformed 18 years later as the Carrum Paterson Lakes Football Club, joining the Southern Football Netball League (SFNL) in 2013.[2] As of 2023, the club plays in Division 3 of the SFNL."

I think you can almost draw similarities between CPL and Toongabbie (revived somewhere around the 1990s and played for a couple of seasons after an absence of many years).
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It's great that there have been struggling clubs, some of which have evaporated, but older stalwarts keeping their club's history and finances (et al) ticking.

That is just so good!

Clubs are known to do it, as in the above examples.

Adopting a defunct club’s name is acceptable. Stealing its history is synonymous with theft. I don’t know if League hierarchies ever question such morally and unacceptable falsifying.

Do league administrations really care? Probably not, but supporters of surrounding clubs know that such clubs are living a lie. They are what they are.

I’m an Ammo person, a proud Westie. I defend our Western geography and culture throughout Melbourne’s suburbs, as do the Willi CYs, the only West Suburban club Ammo club in flying the flag for our West. The CYs have respect and a good name within the VAFA, known as a strong and disciplined club, and known that they are the second largest club in the largest football league in Australia.

I have some VAFA examples of falsifying history [showing that I’m not targeting any particular regional or district league or club].

I have played in the Werribee District League, Western Suburbs FL, and the Footscray DFL.



Melbourne University Football Club:

Some students played a football game against a group from St Kilda in 1859.

That date is now entrenched as Uni Blacks’ and Uni Blues’ foundation dates.

However, there is no record of any University team playing any football between 1859 and 1884.

There is also no record of a University team playing between 1889 and 1904, except one game in 1893. University Blues and Blacks claim that their foundation year is 1859, whereas it should be 1905.



Kew Amateur Football Club:

  • Authenticating playing documentation missing: 1877-1898, 22 years
  • Confirming documentation missing: 1901-1911, 11 years
  • 33 years unaccountable
The Kew Amateur Football Club claims its establishment in 1876 not 1912.



Fitzroy Football Club

Fitzroy: is an excellent example of a club being resurrected:

1883 Fitzroy

Includes University Reds FC.

Foundation date confirmed at 1883



137 years documented on field participation since 1883

A foundation team in the Victorian Football League in 1897, and the only Victorian club to have played in the VFA, VFL, AFL and VAFA.

The Fitzroy Football Club was formed at a meeting at the Brunswick Hotel on 26 September 1883. In 1996, the AFL and the Brisbane Bears made a deal in which Brisbane took on Fitzroy's debts.



This was a time of turbulence and great uncertainty for the club, as not only was the VFL looking to decrease the number of clubs in Melbourne, but it was also forced from its home in Fitzroy after the 1966 season and, from 1967 to 1996, played home games at four different venues: Victoria Park, Princes Park, Footscray, and St Kilda.

Before the start of the 1996 season, and in the wake of Fitzroy, being an active identity but not having an AFL team, was approached by University Reds, a mediocre VFA club that had been continually playing in the VAFA during Fitzroy’s tumultuous years. The two clubs amalgamated and were renamed the 'Fitzroy Reds'. The club accepted Fitzroy Football Club's blessing plus sponsorship, adopted the Fitzroy Guernsey, and played out of Fitzroy Football Club's traditional home, the Brunswick Street Oval.

Fitzroy Football Club has played in three Victorian football competitions, all of which are recognised as being or having been the best professionally administered football entities within the Victorian football community.

After 50 years of pressures of amalgamation, relocation and complete dismemberment now past, the Fitzroy Football Club is comfortable, thriving, and stable, will compete in B Section of the VAFA in 2025.

Fitzroy is now back home, at Brunswick Street in Fitzroy where it belongs, is now content and relaxed, knowing it is fortunate to be part of the VAFA family.

Wikipedia, VAFA, VFL and Fitzroy FC's websites



Canterbury:

Following Canterbury’s undocumented founding in 1881, followed by a 22-year playing void sans annual reports, there is no record of a Canterbury FC until 1902, when a team from Canterbury was admitted to the Box Hill Reporter League after a 22-year sabbatical.

Authenticating playing documentation is missing from 1881-1902, 22 years

The Canterbury Football Club has an authentic playing history spanning 117 years from 1902, NOT 1881.



If a club determined it was founded (say 1888) because some community members played a game of football against another similar group, does that establish a club's existence? Should there be no documentation (anywhere) confirming the club's foundation, nor its existence for over 20 years after its pseudo-establishment, should that club claim its foundation date as 1888 or 1908, as the club would most certainly be a completely new entity?
ROOS77 said:
That's not entirely correct, Newport were kicked out of the league in 1999 because of poor on field and off field behaviours, something that has plagued the recent Newport club since they were reformed.

I cant see a problem with them including the history of the old club.
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It's not their history.
 

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