WRFL Division 3 2019

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Kevkong52 said:
Any talk on braybrook recruits ?
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Wouldn’t be worried about Braybrook. Still needs to catch up to the pack. I’d be worried about Albanvale though.. they are having a serious crack!!

Interestingly by the looks of who they have picked up - 5 players worth maybe 18pts (black - 4, Cameron brothers 4 each, greenwood brothers 3 each)??Plus a couple of others too, not sure who the others are or what points they are but at least 2-3 points each. How are they going to squeeze all these new players all in? Can they pickup more?
 

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Great2splayer said:
Wouldn’t be worried about Braybrook. Still needs to catch up to the pack. I’d be worried about Albanvale though.. they are having a serious crack!!

Interestingly by the looks of who they have picked up - 5 players worth maybe 18pts (black - 4, Cameron brothers 4 each, greenwood brothers 3 each)??Plus a couple of others too, not sure who the others are or what points they are but at least 2-3 points each. How are they going to squeeze all these new players all in? Can they pickup more?
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I find it strange that they didn’t spend this cash whilst in div 2 to try stay up. Seems like they thrive on being in div 3 to notch up another flag and then bottom out when it gets abit tough. Only if they put this effort in before round 1 in the season gone.
 
Leos Den said:
I find it strange that they didn’t spend this cash whilst in div 2 to try stay up. Seems like they thrive on being in div 3 to notch up another flag and then bottom out when it gets abit tough. Only if they put this effort in before round 1 in the season gone.
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That’s a really interesting point... couldn’t agree more
 
Dogs till i die said:
No thanks, YSE were last season beating some of the D2 bottom sides by 100 points+, what would they do to bottom D3 sides? Wouldn't be pretty.
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Thats a very narrow minded attitude. After coaching the Suns the past two seasons it's an absolute waste of time trying to build a club the right way in Div 3. If it went to a 16 team competition every team would play each other once with a Final 8 system. Instead of your current flogging of teams by 100 plus points 2-3 times a season it would only be once. Yes you would have another 2-3 teams which would cop floggings but you would also have another 3-4 teams who would be more competitive creating more interest. It would give all clubs the opportunity to build a club the correct way over a 2-4 year period instead of being stuck in Div 3 where nobody gives a shit what happens apart from those involved trying to get out. Div 3 is a nightmare to try and build a club unless you have money to offer or you've just come down from Div 2.
 
Mick10 said:
Thats a very narrow minded attitude. After coaching the Suns the past two seasons it's an absolute waste of time trying to build a club the right way in Div 3. If it went to a 16 team competition every team would play each other once with a Final 8 system. Instead of your current flogging of teams by 100 plus points 2-3 times a season it would only be once. Yes you would have another 2-3 teams which would cop floggings but you would also have another 3-4 teams who would be more competitive creating more interest. It would give all clubs the opportunity to build a club the correct way over a 2-4 year period instead of being stuck in Div 3 where nobody gives a shit what happens apart from those involved trying to get out. Div 3 is a nightmare to try and build a club unless you have money to offer or you've just come down from Div 2.
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Looks like deer park have got another brain surgeon on board with this bloke taking over as 2’s coach!!!
You’ll get used to 100 point floggings this year looking at the clearences list with all the 2’s players jumping ship
 
Teddy_TJ said:
Grammar aside; it's a fair point. So what are your reservations?
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Returning to two division is a brain dead idea and will kill several clubs.

The league is trying to build not squash teams.

Div 3 is the perfect place to build a club if it’s done properly, is planned and not rushed. If it’s driven by egos and an inability to accept at present a team belongs in div 3 it will always fail.

Spending 50k in 3rd div and then saying it isn’t enough shows how far from reality the league has come, if anything div 3 should be given less money and teams FORCED to build through juniors.

Building a club does not take two years and rushing it will set some clubs back for several years to come.
 

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Mattdougie said:
Returning to two division is a brain dead idea and will kill several clubs.

The league is trying to build not squash teams.

Div 3 is the perfect place to build a club if it’s done properly, is planned and not rushed. If it’s driven by egos and an inability to accept at present a team belongs in div 3 it will always fail.

Spending 50k in 3rd div and then saying it isn’t enough shows how far from reality the league has come, if anything div 3 should be given less money and teams FORCED to build through juniors.

Building a club does not take two years and rushing it will set some clubs back for several years to come.
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Your post contradicts itself. Your opening line is right div 3 is needed for certain clubs survival, then you go on about juniors.

Fact is outside Tarneit no other div 3 side will have any real junior program, they might get 1 to 2 sides tops with most having none

The fact is there was 5 u19 sides in the wrfl, div 2 and 1 clubs are struggling with juniors.

Div 3 will be a single team competition within 5 years, no reserves.
 
Mattdougie said:
Returning to two division is a brain dead idea and will kill several clubs.

The league is trying to build not squash teams.

Div 3 is the perfect place to build a club if it’s done properly, is planned and not rushed. If it’s driven by egos and an inability to accept at present a team belongs in div 3 it will always fail.

Spending 50k in 3rd div and then saying it isn’t enough shows how far from reality the league has come, if anything div 3 should be given less money and teams FORCED to build through juniors.

Building a club does not take two years and rushing it will set some clubs back for several years to come.
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So you tanked at albanvale to go divi 3 to build a perfect place
 
Wickers18 said:
Your post contradicts itself. Your opening line is right div 3 is needed for certain clubs survival, then you go on about juniors.

Fact is outside Tarneit no other div 3 side will have any real junior program, they might get 1 to 2 sides tops with most having none

The fact is there was 5 u19 sides in the wrfl, div 2 and 1 clubs are struggling with juniors.

Div 3 will be a single team competition within 5 years, no reserves.
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How does it contradict itself!? Lol

I’m saying the teams need to be made to concentrate on juniors and build from there. If they can’t they won’t survive and then how on earth will they even be able to try if its only two div and they are getting smacked weekly? There is no positives in any club getting beat by 200 points every two weeks.

The whole league needs a rethink. To busy concentrating on female footy and completely dropped the ball on young male juniors.

How can teams be spending 50k on seniors and have no interest on juniors?

How can a club that had a full hook of juniors 2 years ago now have 3 teams?

To many egos trying to win senior flags for themselves and not build clubs in anyway.
 
Mattdougie said:
How does it contradict itself!? Lol

I’m saying the teams need to be made to concentrate on juniors and build from there. If they can’t they won’t survive and then how on earth will they even be able to try if its only two div and they are getting smacked weekly? There is no positives in any club getting beat by 200 points every two weeks.

The whole league needs a rethink. To busy concentrating on female footy and completely dropped the ball on young male juniors.

How can teams be spending 50k on seniors and have no interest on juniors?

How can a club that had a full hook of juniors 2 years ago now have 3 teams?

To many egos trying to win senior flags for themselves and not build clubs in anyway.
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What about the div 1 premiers spending 300k+ with no interest in juniors.

You are right in what you say junior boys is a real concern. The growth in womens and girls football has covered some massive issues. Bottom line boys numbers are dropping and if they do play the drop off rates after u13s is massive.

Div 1, 2 and 3 clubs outside a couple are all facing dropping junior numbers.
 
Mattdougie said:
Returning to two division is a brain dead idea and will kill several clubs.

The league is trying to build not squash teams.

Div 3 is the perfect place to build a club if it’s done properly, is planned and not rushed. If it’s driven by egos and an inability to accept at present a team belongs in div 3 it will always fail.

Spending 50k in 3rd div and then saying it isn’t enough shows how far from reality the league has come, if anything div 3 should be given less money and teams FORCED to build through juniors.

Building a club does not take two years and rushing it will set some clubs back for several years to come.
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It is the league that is squashing teams. How many clubs are competing with other clubs within a 5km radius?

Mattdougie said:
How does it contradict itself!? Lol

I’m saying the teams need to be made to concentrate on juniors and build from there. If they can’t they won’t survive and then how on earth will they even be able to try if its only two div and they are getting smacked weekly? There is no positives in any club getting beat by 200 points every two weeks.

The whole league needs a rethink. To busy concentrating on female footy and completely dropped the ball on young male juniors.

How can teams be spending 50k on seniors and have no interest on juniors?

How can a club that had a full hook of juniors 2 years ago now have 3 teams?

To many egos trying to win senior flags for themselves and not build clubs in anyway.
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If you think clubs aren't trying to build a junior program because there are to many egos then you have your head in the sand. All clubs would work tirelessly to build their juniors but the fact is there are to many clubs and not enough teenage kids interested in playing football in certain areas.
 
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