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AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Trying to follow this from Peru (with a Peruvian keyboard, too!), so have some idea of the travel problems! We are edging ever closer to regionalising the comp. with new and distant clubs joining us, so we have to plan carefully.If it could come to fruition the structure of having regionalised divisions would be perfect. It has been a success in the MPNFL and certainly evened out over a short period of time and probably ensured the survival of a number of clubs such as Hastings, Dromana and Sorrento who are all now having successful periods.
Perhaps also the idea of Bonnie Doon and possibly Swanpool entering the league may be a consideration as it could facilitate the idea of creating a new divisional structure based on geographical locations.
I do like Lakers comments though. Our league certainly cares about the member clubs and does not place a primary focus on the top division of football unlike in other leagues where money rules and the teams that cannot match it struggle to survive. We are in a good state in the YVMDFL and should certainly be appreciative of what we have - a flourishing football and netball competition that allows community participation both on and off field.
I would like to know what someone from South Belgrave thought about their move to the EFL - they are still travelling reasonably big distances (eg. Templestowe, Canterbury and Surrey Park) and have nothing in common with these clubs, there are no local derbies and possibly less family involvement due to not having netball which was quite successful at South. Moving may have benefits but also has negatives too.
We cant be serious about this concept, this would do more harm than good. You would have woori winning the flag in YV comp.Healseville in the GD and monbulk and upwey alternating the honours each year.If i was from powelltown i would rather travel to bonnie doon where they would have a chance of winning than traveling 20 min down the road to woori to be beaten by 60 goals.And i cant see how it would bring back all the big rivalry games, i only see us losing all the big rivalry healsville-monbulk,woori -upwey,yarra junction-emerald,healsville-woori.ive said it before if any other teams are gonna come in changes need to be made. it would probably take a couple of years to sort itself out but would eventually rival mpnfl that has 3 divisions but no promotions.
Mountain District
Upwey, Belgrave, Olinda, Belgrave, Emerald, Gembrook, Monbulk, Silvan
Yarra Valley
Warburton, Yarra Junction, Powelltown, Seville, Wandin, Mt Evelyn, Woori Yallock
Great Divide
Thornton, Alex, Bonnie Doon, Yea, Kinglake, Yarra Glen, Healsville
This way would keep all the big rivalry games that bring the big crowds and the draw could be worked so that the longest trips only play each other twice. maybe the valley could entice coldstream in to make 8 and the mountain district could entice sth belgrave back for geographical reasons.
If it could come to fruition the structure of having regionalised divisions would be perfect. It has been a success in the MPNFL and certainly evened out over a short period of time and probably ensured the survival of a number of clubs such as Hastings, Dromana and Sorrento who are all now having successful periods.
Perhaps also the idea of Bonnie Doon and possibly Swanpool entering the league may be a consideration as it could facilitate the idea of creating a new divisional structure based on geographical locations.
I do like Lakers comments though. Our league certainly cares about the member clubs and does not place a primary focus on the top division of football unlike in other leagues where money rules and the teams that cannot match it struggle to survive. We are in a good state in the YVMDFL and should certainly be appreciative of what we have - a flourishing football and netball competition that allows community participation both on and off field.
I would like to know what someone from South Belgrave thought about their move to the EFL - they are still travelling reasonably big distances (eg. Templestowe, Canterbury and Surrey Park) and have nothing in common with these clubs, there are no local derbies and possibly less family involvement due to not having netball which was quite successful at South. Moving may have benefits but also has negatives too.
I am a South player/supporter localfootyguru.
Every side we played in our first year (2008) was within 25km of our home ground, 5 of them within 16km.
Templestowe came into Div 4 this year and are longest road trip at 30 odd km from South Belgrave. Thats a lot better than some of the trips we were faced with in YVMDFL. No doubt the Netball would be welcome back but overall our crowds are very strong.
There was no doubt we were losing existing players and recruits because of the travel in YVMDFL.
Grounds and Facilities are very good in the EFL also.
The YVMDFL is a great competition and South left behind some great rivalries but there is no doubt our club made the right decision.
Fair Enough Captiger & Tigersman I will listen & hear your points. You both sound like you have greater wisdom from the internal mechanics at Sth. Maybe my belief in the divisional structure on location is wrong, I am happy to learn.
I believe no system is perfect. But we must look what is best for the long term survival of footy in our broader area. It is easy as clubs or individuals to think for their own personal needs when discussing these topics. I didnt give a rats tossbag about the travel (most 1st divi clubs dont), but it is clearly an issue.
So how do we come up with a better footy league for all of us to compete in? We need to stop thinking about the now & plan for the future. Some lateral vision is needed & not something from 1999 as the landscape has dramtically changed, WE NEED TO THINK HOW IT WILL BE IN 5 YRS TIME.
When Sth rejected the proposal were they only thinking for themselves? What proposals or structural changes did they come up with to allow them to stay in the YV?
Its easy to find the problems, lets come up with some descent solutions that allow clubs to prosper & reinvent themselves in our league instead of in another.
Pretty sure South put the option of geographical on the table a number of times & were on most occassions told to stop complaining - mainly by the non travelling Divi 1 clubs of the time. It is amazing how all of a sudden people are suggesting it again now, and some of it is coming from Divi 1 clubs - maybe the travel factor that the Divi 2 clubs were banging on about really was & is an issue . Why is it often the case that people don't want to fix things until it is captain obvious it is broken, rather than be pro active in the 1st place?
And until ALL clubs decide to make the decision based on what is best for local football & the league rather than themselves and the club they are associated with, you will never get the best possible option because there is too much emotion involved
Sometimes as much as you love what you have, it can hold you back, and in order to prosper you need a change. Maybe that should be the thinking of some clubs - better to be alive in a different league in 5/10 years time , than to not exist at all
There is a regular comment that the Divvy 1 clubs voted this down, at the meeting where this was put to a vote. ALL bar 1 club voted to keep the existing structure with South abstaining.
I would imagine that some of the stronger clubs would think of moving leagues if there was a change, winning by 40 goals plus would not help them build their club, it would in fact pull them down.
I see the comment that the only way foward is to change, good changes bring you foward, bad changes can ruin you.
It is not broke so just leave it
Been following his form a bit, mainly living in hope as i picked him in supercoach . From all reports his last 2 weeks have been very impressive, 19 possesions and 27 hit outs last week.