News Yarran out

[bourbons]

You and I know very little about Chris Yarran, ie. his family situation, what it's like for an 18 to move from WA to Melbourne, so it's pretty poor form to start throwing accusations about the guy when for all we know he may well be playing with great passion and heart - looked extremely good last week with his defense, have a good look at the game again on video

Regardless of the excuses, which may be very valid, he hasn't done enough this year to deserve a place in the best 22 for our first final in 7 years

And I think its been pretty widely acknowledged he doesn't know how to work hard enough just yet (again, there may be reasons for this that are somewhat 'acceptable' at this stage of his career)

Fair call from Tish IMO

 

[Kramer1]

Interesting you bring up the notion of a breakthrough performance.

Every person (and player) has a different definition of a breakthrough performance and I'd like to hear yours.

I'd contend that the game against Adelaide was a breakthrough performance for him. That doesn't need to mean he gets 30 disposals, kicks 5 goals, etc. However, what we saw from Yaz against the Crows, in a team that was getting absolutely belted, was huge improvement. The biggest criticism of him is that he does not chase or work hard enough, yet one only need to re-watch the game (as difficult as that may be), to see that his efforts were so much better than in any previous senior game that he has played.

Yarran had 3 scoring shots, so if he had of kicked 1 or 2 more, would it have been viewed as an excellent performance? 2 or 3 goals in a half of football, because he faded a bit when no other Carlton player was in the game. I dare say that's an excellent effort. I guess that's what happens when people rely purely on the statistics that are put in front of them .

The importance of a breakthrough game is grossly overestimated. Most players don't go from terrible to amazing on the back of 1 performance. Rather, they start showing signs of improvement with every game, and Yarran's improvement from his last game (against Collingwood) to his game against the Crows, was huge.

I don't think he should have been dropped. IMO a very harsh call by the MC, because based on what we saw against the Crows, I really don't think Garlett offers us that much more than Yarran.

Simply put I'd define a breakthrough performance as one in which he has significant influence over the outcome of a game. Perhaps breakthrough isn't the right word, more vindication of his selection (which I fully endorse). I'm certainly not looking for 40 touches with all the trimmings, but he was recruited for his ability to turn a match with a few key plays, to create a significant number of scoring opportunitites and to an add an extra dimension to our attack...I've only seem brief glimpses to this point in time.

On Saturday he found the ball 14 or 15 times in a very open game, but disposal and decision making was a little sloppy (as was the case for many). Incredibly heartening to see some nice chase and tackles, but nothing different to anything we see from Garlett, Betts and even Fev on a weekly basis. It's my understanding that defensive pressure can be a big feature of his game, and from what I have seen he has an excellent tackling technique, so I suppose I didn't see anything on Saturday that really surprised.

 

[Malifice]

'Breakthrough game' or not, had did have a solid game, and certainly didnt look out of place out there.

I cant say however I was persuaded one way or the other as to whether he deserved a spot in the 22 this weekend.

Ill trust the MC on this one.

What was evident, is that he wants to be a player and has most of the tools to be a dead set gun.

I also reckon if he has a blinder in the 2's this weekend (and we get over Brisbane) he would be the first for a recall should Gartlett fail to fire.

 

[Salaryman]

Fair dinkum, there are a fair few historectomies required on this board

 

[blueblood25]

he's named as an emergency so he'll still have to fly up though? i don't think he's ready for finals yet so not really too phased that he's out.

 

[No1Blue]

I no longer have concerns in regards to his skill, talent, speed or potenial. He has ticked all those boxes.

Clearly needs to improve his endurance and work ethtic on the track to become elite. I got some mail about 6 weeks ago that said Ratts is always getting into him at training about working harder, far more than any other player. This seems to be starting to sink in after his chasing looks to have come on leaps and bounds since not being able to catch the waddling H Shaw to running down Mcleod and stiffy J on saturday.

There is no dramas either with the 2 goals that he missed on Saturdays game, I also recieved mail that Yaz regularly kicks Neons and does things you wouldn't believe at training.

All Yaz has to do is continue lift his work ethic off the track and he is a certainty to be a gun in the neon leon mold.

Good post..

 

[Wogpound]

He got ahead of himself geting into the AFL system. Didn't relies you have to do much more then just rock up game day and kick goals. Personally i think he is lazy but saying this, the last couple of games he was included in, he has lifted his intensity, more of the same and i reckon next year if we keep him maybe will do good, or could end up as another 1st round dud. Question how the hell did we go past Rich??????

 

[Tish]

I've been told a few aspects of the bloke which I really like......, and I'm also probably better qualified to interpret them than you

I'm talking about his ethics of the game.

Lets not make it a oh I know this guy so I'm more qualified to judge because at the end of the day, no one cares about big noting ones self.

 

[Salaryman]

I'm talking about his ethics of the game.

Lets not make it a oh I know this guy so I'm more qualified to judge because at the end of the day, no one cares about big noting ones self.

Excellent !!! So you got my point

Chris reminds me of the intelligent high school kid who never had to study because he was so naturally gifted, then gets to uni and finds things a bit tougher......I suspect once he gets a sniff of how good he could be things will click into gear.

 

[FrankDaTank]

all you w***ers getting in to yarran give him a break its the young guys first year and yeah up against rich it looks like we ****ed up but in time who knows what we have with this kid... Yes he looks lazy but when he has played and applied himself he looks great so wait 3 or 4 years then start getting in to him cos i know if he turns in to a star u will all love him and say u never doubted him

 

[celtic_pride]

I'm getting a bit sick of the simpletons who say that because we got Garlett and he's going reaonably well thus far that we shouldn't have drafted Yararn, cause they are similar type of players ...

What a load of bollocks, if anything Yarran's going to be playing more up the middle as he gets more mature, and is hopefully going to turn into an Andrew Mcleod type of slashing goal-kicking midfielder. Garlett really is only suited to playing in the foward pocket IMHO.

Yarran's got incredible natural talent, and has great 'instincts and awareness', I honeslty agree with his coach from the Swan Districts, he'll be a great player in the AFL system, once he matures and starts to lift his 'work-rate' ...

There was always an element of risk taking Yarran over Rich or Ziebell, but by jingo, he's got an massive untapped 'upside' and X factor which those other players lack.

 

[baconb]

Is he still really out? I just looked on afl said he was playing. Been away could someone let me know please?

cheers

 

[Jeremias]

Is he still really out? I just looked on afl said he was playing. Been away could someone let me know please?

cheers

No he's not really out, we are all having you on

AFL doesn't say anywhere that he is playing. Maybe count how many players are on the list you are looking at - I'm guessing 23.

 

[Mister Carlton]

I'm getting a bit sick of the simpletons who say that because we got Garlett and he's going reaonably well thus far that we shouldn't have drafted Yararn, cause they are similar type of players ...

What a load of bollocks, if anything Yarran's going to be playing more up the middle as he gets more mature, and is hopefully going to turn into an Andrew Mcleod type of slashing goal-kicking midfielder. Garlett really is only suited to playing in the foward pocket IMHO.

Yarran's got incredible natural talent, and has great 'instincts and awareness', I honeslty agree with his coach from the Swan Districts, he'll be a great player in the AFL system, once he matures and starts to lift his 'work-rate' ...

There was always an element of risk taking Yarran over Rich or Ziebell, but by jingo, he's got an massive untapped 'upside' and X factor which those other players lack.

First quality post. Keep up the good work...

 

[The Coach]

First quality post. Keep up the good work...

Can I have one too

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Better have a damn good pre-season Yaz.

 

[Big Red is back]

Better have a damn good pre-season Yaz.

Yep I would give him a 2 out of 10 so far, he has showed a few glimpses but has struggled at VFL level

 

[mediumsizered]

Yep I would give him a 2 out of 10 so far, he has showed a few glimpses but has struggled at VFL level

Fortunately for our club your judgement counts for zero.

 

[Kram]

I'm glad he's not playing finals. The blokes are playing have busted a gut to get there, and mostly play with heart and passion. Yarran however, does none of this, you don't reward a bloke who gives nothing back.

100% correct

 

[Big Red is back]

Fortunately for our club your judgement counts for zero.

Ok feel free to tell me how many goals and how many times he got in the best at VFL level.


FYI Yarran in the best 3 times at VFL level, kicking 13 goals in 11 games.

Given he kicked 39 for Swan D in 2008 it is fair to say he has been a let down??

I hope the kid comes good but so far he could not of done worse, given he was pick 6. I for one pray he comes good.

 

[mediumsizered]

Ok feel free to tell me how many goals and how many times he got in the best at VFL level.

Well, he kicked 2 goals in today's VFL Qualifying Final & was mentioned as playing well during the call of the game today (kicking goals at Williamstown on a windy day is a tough proposition for any player), so that is a pretty handy effort by a kid that is still 18, who has had an interrupted season due to family bereavement/s.

If you want to get on the Daniel Rich bandwagon that is your choice, but guess what? Rich doesn't & probably never will play for Carlton so, unless you intend to support the Lions, any performance by Rich is going to be irrelevant for Carlton supporters.

FWIW, who had the better first season out of Brock McLean & Adam Cooney & who do you think is the better player now? Who would you choose between Jared Rivers & Brendan Goddard, circa 2009?

 

[Big Red is back]

Well, he kicked 2 goals in today's VFL Qualifying Final & was mentioned as playing well during the call of the game today (kicking goals at Williamstown on a windy day is a tough proposition for any player), so that is a pretty handy effort by a kid that is still 18, who has had an interrupted season due to family bereavement/s.

If you want to get on the Daniel Rich bandwagon that is your choice, but guess what? Rich doesn't & probably never will play for Carlton so, unless you intend to support the Lions, any performance by Rich is going to be irrelevant for Carlton supporters.

FWIW, who had the better first season out of Brock McLean & Adam Cooney & who do you think is the better player now? Who would you choose between Jared Rivers & Brendan Goddard, circa 2009?

Fair call all I am saying is given he has a mature body and was so highly rated I for one can say I think his first season was below my expectations. Is that not fair enough?

 

[mediumsizered]

Fair call all I am saying is given he has a mature body and was so highly rated I for one can say I think his first season was below my expectations. Is that not fair enough?

We were all hoping that Yarran would step straight in & take the AFL by 'storm', but he didn't exactly have the best lead-in to the season.

Yaz joined the club with a broken hand & then of cause injured his ankle in his first appearance in the NAB Cup, so his pre-season was interrupted which, given the shorter pre-season new draftees have, was a major setback. Add to this the death & illness of close relatives & the kid was destined to struggle to fully focus on football.

The kid is still only 18 (doesn't turn 19 until December) & has taken some positive steps in recent VFL games, including today's final. I am quietly confident that if he can have an uninterrupted pre-season & continue to develop his self-belief (his body language points to a kid who doesn't exactly believe he belongs at AFL level, much like Gibbs in his first season) that we are going to see some exciting football from Yaz in 2009 & beyond. As I have stated a number of times this year, this kid is a 'Rolls Royce'.

 

[Silvagnis]

I'm glad he's not playing finals. The blokes are playing have busted a gut to get there, and mostly play with heart and passion. Yarran however, does none of this, you don't reward a bloke who gives nothing back.

Did Garlett, Betts and Cloke bust their gut to be there by getting pissed after a game against a rabble?

Why single out a first year player for such a comment?

Yarran gave nothing back by flying back and playing in the VFL two weeks ago. CY lined up against the Crows the following week too when we needed him. Yazz was the only player wearing two black armbands in that game.

Yarran is clearly not mentally ready for AFL footy given his personal issues with family back home. You could see that it's been a hard thing for him to deal by his body language after he kicked a goal last week.

He's just 18 year of age.

The footy club has done a great job handling Yarran in his first year.

Thank God he didn't land at Richmond who played Cotchin without a full pre-season.

Cotchin eventually broke down.

Yarran starred when he was playing in his home environment with friends and family close by.

2009 should be seen as just a preparation for the next ten years and a year where Yarran acclimatised to life in Melbourne.

 

[blues4flag]

FYI Yarran in the best 3 times at VFL level, kicking 13 goals in 11 games.

He's also kicked 8 goals in the last 4 games, including playing only half a game a fortnight ago and playing after making a return trip from WA last week.

He started off slowly which isn't unexpected given his personal issues and limited preseason. However he's been improving solidly. A strong finish to the season and a good preseason and hopefully we'll see more of him at AFL level in 2010.