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Lol touché.1. Hawks v Freo GF.
2. Freo buy into their own hype before choking to Hawthorn in the GF.
3. Fyfe biggest choker of them all.
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Still I got one out of three which not many others predicted!
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thought it was only a matter of time before teams started to figure him out and looks like i was pretty accurate.
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IIRC Cotchin was on one knee from the Fremantle game onwards. No doubt he was down on output last year, but his year was still very good. Lead Richmond's contested disposals, and was top 20 in Contested Possessions, Kicks per game, Total Kicks, Clearences, Clearences per game. How did teams figure him out sir?
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he also had belwo a 65 percent disposal efficiency and kicked at just slightly above 50 percent. and finished 5th in Richmonds BnF after winning itand the coaches MVP last season, didn't see him in the top 10 of that award this year and rightly so.
Didn't I say he was down on output this year compared to last year? Also can you punctuate your sentences a bit clearer thanks. You wouldn't expect a player to be kicking at a high efficiency with a stuffed knee for most of the season would you?
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stuffed knee pftt, he missed one game with a knee injury. Stuffed knee my a**
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OH BURN....
Yeah, no player has ever played with an injury ever. Sheesh. Look at Naitanui, he was carrying a knock for a number of matches, it doesn't change the fact that he wasn't fully fit. Cotchin wasn't figured out, if he was, he wouldn't have put in close to BOG performances against the two grand finalists.
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Never did i say that "no player has ever played with an injury ever". He gave no proof that Cotchin was playing "on one knee". He seemed to pull that out of nowhere. I'm pretty sure Cotchin only missed one game due to that injury and it was deemed minor.
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Yet you implied that because he missed one game, that his injuries should be ignored, in fact, you said "stuffed knee my a**", which is ridiculously ignorant. Fit players don't deliberately kick off their non-preferred foot.
I wouldn't say one knee but he was definitely impacted.
Cotchin's injury was never considered minor, it was just considered that a 70-80% fit Cotchin is still better than another player.
I'd like to see how you think Cotchin has been "figured out". Cotchin, like a number of other players had a 2013 which was inferior to his 2012 (mainly due to injury, even a small knock can hurt a midfielder significantly) but I struggle to know how he's been figured out. Jobe Watson's 2013 wasn't as good as his 2012, but I doubt that means he's been figured out. Kennedy is in the same boat.
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1. Jobe, unlike Cotchin, had a major injury that ruled him out for a few weeks.
2. Was replying to JimmySwan's comment about him having a "stuffed knee"
3. it was definitely not considered major
Perhaps i used the wrong words by saying 'figured him out' but teams certainly found a more productive and effective way of limiting his influence.
Excuse the late reply i haven't had an opportunity to check out bigfooty for a while.
Fine, Josh Kennedy's 2013 output wasn't as good as 2012, yet he wasn't "figured out".
It wasn't considered minor either, and was managed throughout the season. He was clearly hampered. The nature of midfielders is that playing in the midfield is such an arduous task that playing even 95% fit will make you noticeably worse.
But clubs didn't do that, they didn't tag him or play through him, and when Cotchin was fit, he was one of the best players on the pitch. Fremantle and Hawthorn struggled to cope with him this season.
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1) Buddy's move to Syndey will backfire. He'll have a horrible year riddled with injuries and poor form.
2) Collingwood to finish top 2.
3) The Lions will shoot up the ladder under Leppitch, similar to what Port did this year.
2) Collingwood to finish top 2.
3) The Lions will shoot up the ladder under Leppitch, similar to what Port did this year.
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Didn't i already state that i misused that phrase and to be more accurate they "found a more productive and effective way of limiting his influence."
So Cotchin was fit against the Hawks and Freo, but not against the Blues and GWS which was not long after the Hawks game?
Cotchin played what was one of the worst performances i had seen all year against the Blues late in the season, why because he was tagged, and he backed it up against the Giants.
Footy is such an enduring sport that very few players are 100 percent fit all season long. It wouldn't show up much if you were playing at 95 percent fitness as MOST do. Heck, Judd showed how much a true superstar can do playing on one leg, let alone at 95 percent fitness.
But they didn't do that though.
Cotchin played what was one of the worst performances i had seen all year against the Blues, why because he was tagged and he backed it up against the Giants.[/QUOTE]
Cotchin has been tagged in seasons previous, it didn't impact on him much. Go look at his matches where he was tagged in 2011 and 2012, still had great games. The reason why he struggled against Carlton is that he got a knock to his already damaged knee, which limited his run and kicking. GWS games are meaningless, Cotchin was rested because Richmond wanted him to be fit for finals. He was still on track to get high 20s touches, so it wasn't as if the mighty GWS figured out Richmond.
Judd is a bigger bodied and older player, he also had a poor year by his standards. And Cotchin had a great finals game anyway.
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Cotchin has been tagged in seasons previous, it didn't impact on him much. Go look at his matches where he was tagged in 2011 and 2012, still had great games. The reason why he struggled against Carlton is that he got a knock to his already damaged knee, which limited his run and kicking. GWS games are meaningless, Cotchin was rested because Richmond wanted him to be fit for finals. He was still on track to get high 20s touches, so it wasn't as if the mighty GWS figured out Richmond.
Judd is a bigger bodied and older player, he also had a poor year by his standards. And Cotchin had a great finals game anyway.[/quote]
But they did.
I'm not saying in previous years that Cotchin was the type player that couldn't cope with a tag, but teams have a better way of limiting his influence now, which is something i've been saying all along.
That is because Judd as well as carrying a legitimate injury, is aging and isn't the explosive player he once was.
Why would a team select a player, ship him over to the great land of Western Sydney.... and rest him.
Wouldn't giving a 18YO a run be a better option?
That knock must have happened when i turned away from the tv for a few seconds.
Dude, you need to learn how to quote properly.
And yet you've got nothing to prove that's the truth. Carlton apparently figured out how to limit his influence in round 21, yet they forgot how to do it in the finals? Whatever mate!
I don't know, ask Hardwick. Fact is, Cotchin was rested just after half time in a meaningless match. Why do you only select two bad games and ignore the five games where he was given 3 votes?
It happened in the second quarter, when Bell bumped his knee. Cotchin was playing so that if his knee was slightly jarred, he was stuffed. The commentators were talking about it the whole game "Richmond can't win with an injured Cotchin". Did you even watch the game? Or did you just look at the stats sheet?
And yet you've got nothing to prove that's the truth. Carlton apparently figured out how to limit his influence in round 21, yet they forgot how to do it in the finals? Whatever mate!
I don't know, ask Hardwick. Fact is, Cotchin was rested just after half time in a meaningless match. Why do you only select two bad games and ignore the five games where he was given 3 votes?
It happened in the second quarter, when Bell bumped his knee. Cotchin was playing so that if his knee was slightly jarred, he was stuffed. The commentators were talking about it the whole game "Richmond can't win with an injured Cotchin". Did you even watch the game? Or did you just look at the stats sheet?
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If you were paying attention to Curnow's game, you would realize that he was playing a much more offensive role compare to the role he played in round 21. Maybe looking at Cotchins year they thought he wasn't worth the defensive attention and decided to switch it to Lids or Martin.
5 best on grounds? I saw him play 4 games deserving of votes all year. Rd 1, Rd 17, Rd 3, Rd 23. The umps really must have it out for him,and that's coming from an Eagle supporter.
I don't listen to channel 7's commentary, I find it repulsive. I definitely did watch the match, But i didn't hear any exaggerations about that knock from Triple M.
What about his lazy 34 touches, 9 tackles and 9 clearances against Hawthorn in round 19? Or his 30 touches, 7 inside 50s and 7 clearances against Brisbane? In both matches he received 9 coaches votes.
And by the way, having a lesser season than the previous, (where he won media awards and came second in the brownlow) =/= teams having a better way of limiting his influence now
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