Your Top 20 NBA players of all time - nbaman edition!

[Chadwiko]

So, for those who haven't had the joy of reading the last couple of pages of the Boston/Atlanta series thread (see here http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=936658&page=13), there's been a bit of a debate raging about the Top 20 NBA players of all time, starting with nbaman suggesting Kevin Garnett makes the cut, and pretty much everyone else disagreeing.

What that in mind, lets see everyone's ranked Top 20 NBA players of all time lists, and see how much difference/convergence exists here.

Personally, I suspect that too many people here are in the 16-24 year old bracket, so grew up around the time of the end of the "Golden Era", and this is affecting their lists.

I'll get this party started. Feel free to pick this apart and call me stupid and handsome;

1. Michael Jordan
2. Bill Russell
3. Magic Johnson
4. Larry Bird
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabar
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Oscar Robertson
9. Jerry West
10. Hakeem Olajuwon
11. Tim Duncan
12. Moses Malone
13. Kobe Bryant
14. John Havlicek
15. Elgin Baylor
16. Julius Erving
17. Bob Cousy
18. Charles Barkley
19. John Stockton
20. David Robinson

Players that I wanted to make the cut, or were just on the cusp : Bob Pettit, Scottie Pippen, Isiah Thomas, David Robinson

 

[Westy Bogan]

Are these in order?

 

[Chadwiko]

Yes, hence why they're numbered 1 through to 20.

 

[Chadwiko]

Quoting from the other thread so we can stop de-railing the discussion over there...

[regarding me saying Karl Malone is over rated] Really? How so? Relied on Stockton? You must have him ahead of KG?

KG career stats 19-10-4

Malone 25-10-4

As you can see, I only did a top 20, and Karl Malone didn't make my top 20. If I had to go through and do like a top 30 or 40, i'd say Karl Malone would end up somewhere around #28 ish, and KG somewhere around #32 ish.

That's just off the top of my head though, without actually sitting down and figuring it out properly.

 

[krisholio14]

This should be interesting....

 

[Westy Bogan]

Yes, hence why they're numbered 1 through to 20.

You have Wilt twice...

This is gonna be hard to include players I have never seen play but I will give it a go.

 

[Chadwiko]

You have Wilt twice...

This is gonna be hard to include players I have never seen play but I will give it a go.

Hah. So I do. Herp Derp.

Hrmmm... this means I get to add someone. Will re-evaluate in a second

 

[Chadwiko]

Removed the Wilt double, and slotted in David Robinson at #20.

 

[jerry springer]

Scottie pippen is the most underated player of all time. Defence wins championships and he was the best going around

Ive have him ahead of Robinson,Stockton and Barkley @ 17

Pretty good effort straight up though

 

[peternorth]

man, away from this site all day and walk into a KG is top 20 all time storm???111!!!

 

[jod23]

This is completely off the top of my head without real thought and proper evaluation but my gut says this.

1. Michael Jordan
2. Magic Johnson
3. Bill Russell
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Oscar Robertson
6. Larry Bird
7. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Jerry West
10. Shaquille O'Neal
11. Elgin Baylor
12. Isiah Thomas
13. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
15. Moses Malone
16. Scottie Pippen
17. Bob Cousy
18. Charles Barkley
19. John Havlicek
20. Karl Malone

 

[jod23]

So, for those who haven't had the joy of reading the last couple of pages of the Boston/Atlanta series thread (see here http://bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=936658&page=13), there's been a bit of a debate raging about the Top 20 NBA players of all time, starting with nbaman suggesting Kevin Garnett makes the cut, and pretty much everyone else disagreeing.

What that in mind, lets see everyone's ranked Top 20 NBA players of all time lists, and see how much difference/convergence exists here.

Personally, I suspect that too many people here are in the 16-24 year old bracket, so grew up around the time of the end of the "Golden Era", and this is affecting their lists.

I'll get this party started. Feel free to pick this apart and call me stupid and handsome;



Players that I wanted to make the cut, or were just on the cusp : Bob Pettit, Scottie Pippen, Isiah Thomas, David Robinson

In what world did you live in where Shaq is better than Hakeem?

 

[raffrox]

In what world did you live in where Shaq is better than Hakeem?

The real world I'd say.

Shaq's dominance changed the rules of the game. Hakeem was prettier to watch and a defensive force but Shaq was unstoppable in his prime.

 

[raffrox]

Scottie pippen is the most underated player of all time. Defence wins championships and he was the best going around

Ive have him ahead of Robinson,Stockton and Barkley @ 17

Pretty good effort straight up though

I said this in the All time Draft thread but if you go back and watch some games there's no way you'd have Pippen ahead of Barkley.

There was that whole sooky la la when he wouldn't re-enter a play off game because Phil Jackson didn't give him the last shot thing as well.

Stockton and Robinson is debatable but Sir Charles, no way.

And Kobe should be top 10.

 

[Chadwiko]

In what world did you live in where Shaq is better than Hakeem?

Both are champions, but Shaq > Hakeem.

Hakeem:
2× NBA Champion (1994–1995)
NBA Most Valuable Player (1994)
2× NBA Finals MVP (1994–1995)
12× NBA All-Star (1985–1990, 1992–1997)
2× NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1993–1994)
6× All-NBA First Team (1987–1989, 1993–1994, 1997)
3× All-NBA Second Team (1986, 1990, 1996)
3× All-NBA Third Team (1991, 1995, 1999)
5× All-Defensive First Team (1987–1988, 1990, 1993-1994)
4× All-Defensive Second Team (1985, 1991, 1996–1997)
NBA All-Rookie Team (1985)
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

Shaq:
4× NBA Champion (2000, 2001, 2002, 2006)
3× NBA Finals MVP (2000–2002)
NBA Most Valuable Player (2000)
NBA Rookie of the Year (1993)
15× NBA All-Star (1993–1998, 2000–2007, 2009)
2× NBA scoring champion (1995, 2000)
8× All-NBA First Team (1998, 2000–2006)
2× All-NBA Second Team (1995, 1999)
4× All-NBA Third Team (1994, 1996–1997, 2009)
3× All-Defensive Second Team (2000–2001, 2003)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1993)
3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2000, 2004, 2009)
1994 FIBA World Championship MVP

 

[Chadwiko]

Similarly jod, I could ask "in what world is Larry Bird not a top 5 all-time player?"

 

[tomatosauceling]

I'll get this party started. Feel free to pick this apart and call me stupid and handsome;

I doubt anyone has ever called you handsome chad

 

[peternorth]

why hasnt nbaman posted here?

 

[Westy Bogan]

Using NBA all-star appearances as credentials really irks me...

IMO I would have Pippen before Barkley.

Pippen played much of the game as a point forward and Jords didn't win 6 rings all by himself. Pip was awesome

 

[Westy Bogan]

This is completely off the top of my head without real thought and proper evaluation but my gut says this.

1. Michael Jordan
2. Magic Johnson
3. Bill Russell
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Oscar Robertson
6. Larry Bird
7. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Jerry West
10. Shaquille O'Neal
11. Elgin Baylor
12. Isiah Thomas
13. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
15. Moses Malone
16. Scottie Pippen
17. Bob Cousy
18. Charles Barkley
19. John Havlicek
20. Karl Malone

John Stockton would be in my top 20 but otherwise good list.

 

[PP34]

why hasnt nbaman posted here?

I'll do mine later tonight. Have been busy.

 

[peternorth]

I'll do mine later tonight. Have been busy.

looking forward to it. dont forget to put kg in

 

[Westy Bogan]

looking forward to it. dont forget to put kg in

1. KG
2. Jordan
3. Who cares...

 

[peternorth]

1. KG
2. Jordan
3. Who cares...

1. KG (@ celtics)
2. Jordan





not rated - KG @ wolves

 

[The_Eagles]

Jordan
Magic
Bird
Russell
Kareem
Wilt
Shaq
Kobe
Duncan
Olajuwon
LeBron (who will end up 2)