Coach Men's Senior Coach: Brad Scott

[bomberlegend2007]

I will start calling him Jürgen Scott, the master of the Essenpress.

 

[Petrify]

We're currently the #1 clearance and centre clearance team in the comp. And we've done that playing against 3 teams who's biggest strengths are their contested footy.

I was unsure how we'd get the most out of our 50 mids in one team but Scott has got them working superbly

 

[eth-dog]

We're currently the #1 clearance and centre clearance team in the comp. And we've done that playing against 3 teams who's biggest strengths are their contested footy.

I was unsure how we'd get the most out of our 50 mids in one team but Scott has got them working superbly

It's St Kilda's biggest weakness.

 

[BrunoV]

Should lose your coaching accreditation if you look at Jack Higgins and think ‘yeah sure, we’re happy for the biggest out the back cheater in the AFL to run around completely on his own’.

What an absolute wank

Isn't that the point?

He's not relevant so who cares if he kicks a goal. Someone has to be out the back, that's what structure does, so it might as well be 'Higgo'.

It's what Essendon opponents think of our small forwards.

 

[JayJ20]

We're currently the #1 clearance and centre clearance team in the comp. And we've done that playing against 3 teams who's biggest strengths are their contested footy.

I was unsure how we'd get the most out of our 50 mids in one team but Scott has got them working superbly

It's St Kilda's biggest weakness.

I'd also add that Sydney's one big weakness is clearances. Clearances particularly in the centre was Hawthorn's strength last year, but they've been terrible so far.
St Kilda and Sydney were 16th and 17th respectively for clearance differential last year. They rely more on punishing turnovers.

The biggest test will be Port who are one of the best clearance sides in the comp. Currently sit second behind Essendon. Perform well and I'll start believing we have a good midfield.

 

[Megabattimus]

Port's miss don't defend so if we can get on top of them, we might have a chance of winning against them.

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[fairbump_playon]

I'd also add that Sydney's one big weakness is clearances. Clearances particularly in the centre was Hawthorn's strength last year, but they've been terrible so far.
St Kilda and Sydney were 16th and 17th respectively for clearance differential last year. They rely more on punishing turnovers.

The biggest test will be Port who are one of the best clearance sides in the comp. Currently sit second behind Essendon. Perform well and I'll start believing we have a good midfield.

Port bullied us last year in the end

 

[ghostdog]

Loved how solid we became through the middle on the weekend. Scott has the players and it's causing me to revel.

 

[Zach Package]

Isn't that the point?

He's not relevant so who cares if he kicks a goal. Someone has to be out the back, that's what structure does, so it might as well be 'Higgo'.

It's what Essendon opponents think of our small forwards.

I dunno, I would have thought if that’s essentially the only way he’s going to impact the game, completely leaving him alone is not good practise.

And it’s not like it tidied up in the second half, the Saints just completely wilted and they couldn’t get the ball there.

 

[citizen-erased]

Port bullied us last year in the end

they bat deep too

Butters, rozee, wines, jhf, drew, old man boak turned back the clock v the dees.

Where we can win is dominance over Soldo, but our mids need to work to goldys taps. Too often he dishes it up on a platter and we're not there.

Also, be nice if rioli doesnt snipe someone.

 

[BrunoV]

I dunno, I would have thought if that’s essentially the only way he’s going to impact the game, completely leaving him alone is not good practise.

And it’s not like it tidied up in the second half, the Saints just completely wilted and they couldn’t get the ball there.

Has a player kicking goal square goals really impacted the game?

I'd say not without more. Team structure creates that goal. By the time the goal has been kicked the crucial systemic failure / structural failure has already occurred.

You'd need to look at what it would take to prevent that goal and the impact of that on the rest of the game.

You could keep a goal keeper on the last line for example. But that'd upset the counter attack and zone for example.

 

[Zach Package]

Has a player kicking goal square goals really impacted the game?

I'd say not without more. Team structure creates that goal. By the time the goal has been kicked the crucial systemic failure / structural failure has already occurred.

You'd need to look at what it would take to prevent that goal and the impact of that on the rest of the game.

You could keep a goal keeper on the last line for example. But that'd upset the counter attack and zone for example.

Agree to disagree but I would say it’s a bit of ‘do what your opponent least wants you to do’.

In this case if Higgins and Butler are desperate to beat you back to goal you’d go with a goal keeper.

The alternative we went with was put Dyson on them and let him just read it better than they ever could, which worked in this instance but I wouldn’t count on it working again.

 

[Godzke]

I think there's something to be said about Scott's influence on Parish

Small sample size, but based on the first three games we've seen Parish becomes a far more 2-way player. He's trailing last year's numbers on avg disposals (25 vs 31) and clearances (5 v 8), but he's stepped up his defensive game.

Parish is currently ranked #3 for tackles, #3 for pressure acts and #1 for defensive-half pressure acts.

Kudos Brad

 

[Petrify]

I think there's something to be said about Scott's influence on Parish

Small sample size, but based on the first three games we've seen Parish becomes a far more 2-way player. He's trailing last year's numbers on avg disposals (25 vs 31) and clearances (5 v 8), but he's stepped up his defensive game.

Parish is currently ranked #3 for tackles, #3 for pressure acts and #1 for defensive-half pressure acts.

Kudos Brad

Back end of last year Parish was massive defensively too. Similar tackle numbers

 

[faible]

I think there's something to be said about Scott's influence on Parish

Small sample size, but based on the first three games we've seen Parish becomes a far more 2-way player. He's trailing last year's numbers on avg disposals (25 vs 31) and clearances (5 v 8), but he's stepped up his defensive game.

Parish is currently ranked #3 for tackles, #3 for pressure acts and #1 for defensive-half pressure acts.

Kudos Brad

Parish didn't play the first two games...

 

[ant555]

So the comment came up again in the Bryan thread about Scott preferring the old blokes over youth so this is the place to address it again. Fake news.
So we are only 3 games in so this year is hardly a guide so far but he did play Reid straight up and also went with Tsatas on a wing and also Davey as the sub (late change) despite him not having a great run of form. Has also moved Martin into a key role at half back (right or wrong he has done it). Has kept up with his Perkins midfield and also moved Durham there so there is trust in some younger players.

As for last year the 4 you would argue about would be Monty / Voss / Bryan / Baldwin.

Monty probably unlucky but he obviously was not going super well as no one else swooped on him. Dogs have him playing VFL.

Voss had a lot of supporters but he was not left out of the side because he was young. He was left out because Scott was not changing the structure of the side and Voss is not a KPF so he was competing for a spot with Langford or Stringer. You could argue he should have changed the structure for sure but it was not a young v old thing.

Bryan was simply behind Draper and Flipper to start the year. Maybe he could have got another 3 or so games but Flipper had some solid form at stages and Bryan still needed physical development.

Baldwin was unlucky but it was more a form thing. Scott went with BTZ / Laverde / Ridley who all performed well enough over the year. I though he could have got a few more games as well but again it was not a young thing. It was more the older blokes where doing the job.

So there where 4 blokes you could really argue could have played more. However that is not the end of the story. On the flip side he played Davey early. Menzire all year. Cox in the back end of the year after injury. Tsatas before he was ready. Jones early on. Hobbs got 17 games. Perkins got a lot of midfield time by the end of the season.

So in reality he does not just like older guys. He has played a balance of both and played just as many young guys as he has left out and not played.

And finally the comment about which young guys have fought there way into the side. Well that is really just an attempt to try and move the goal posts. Given the amount of constant injury we had fighting your way into the side was not really a reality. Bryan did at one stage and then came in again when Sam was injured. Baldwin had good form but was behind 3 others for most of the year who performed well. Voss maybe but his form was very patchy across the whole year with good games followed up by a couple of average ones several times and by time Weid was on the down slope Voss was also mixing his form.

 

[Petrify]

So the comment came up again in the Bryan thread about Scott preferring the old blokes over youth so this is the place to address it again. Fake news.
So we are only 3 games in so this year is hardly a guide so far but he did play Reid straight up and also went with Tsatas on a wing and also Davey as the sub (late change) despite him not having a great run of form. Has also moved Martin into a key role at half back (right or wrong he has done it). Has kept up with his Perkins midfield and also moved Durham there so there is trust in some younger players.

As for last year the 4 you would argue about would be Monty / Voss / Bryan / Baldwin.

Monty probably unlucky but he obviously was not going super well as no one else swooped on him. Dogs have him playing VFL.

Voss had a lot of supporters but he was not left out of the side because he was young. He was left out because Scott was not changing the structure of the side and Voss is not a KPF so he was competing for a spot with Langford or Stringer. You could argue he should have changed the structure for sure but it was not a young v old thing.

Bryan was simply behind Draper and Flipper to start the year. Maybe he could have got another 3 or so games but Flipper had some solid form at stages and Bryan still needed physical development.

Baldwin was unlucky but it was more a form thing. Scott went with BTZ / Laverde / Ridley who all performed well enough over the year. I though he could have got a few more games as well but again it was not a young thing. It was more the older blokes where doing the job.

So there where 4 blokes you could really argue could have played more. However that is not the end of the story. On the flip side he played Davey early. Menzire all year. Cox in the back end of the year after injury. Tsatas before he was ready. Jones early on. Hobbs got 17 games. Perkins got a lot of midfield time by the end of the season.

So in reality he does not just like older guys. He has played a balance of both and played just as many young guys as he has left out and not played.

And finally the comment about which young guys have fought there way into the side. Well that is really just an attempt to try and move the goal posts. Given the amount of constant injury we had fighting your way into the side was not really a reality. Bryan did at one stage and then came in again when Sam was injured. Baldwin had good form but was behind 3 others for most of the year who performed well. Voss maybe but his form was very patchy across the whole year with good games followed up by a couple of average ones several times and by time Weid was on the down slope Voss was also mixing his form.

Only need to look at Zach Reid getting a shot (before injury) over Laverde to know that it's not true. Pretty sure the selection is just based off who is the best player at the role.

 

[bomberlegend2007]

So the comment came up again in the Bryan thread about Scott preferring the old blokes over youth so this is the place to address it again. Fake news.
So we are only 3 games in so this year is hardly a guide so far but he did play Reid straight up and also went with Tsatas on a wing and also Davey as the sub (late change) despite him not having a great run of form. Has also moved Martin into a key role at half back (right or wrong he has done it). Has kept up with his Perkins midfield and also moved Durham there so there is trust in some younger players.

As for last year the 4 you would argue about would be Monty / Voss / Bryan / Baldwin.

Monty probably unlucky but he obviously was not going super well as no one else swooped on him. Dogs have him playing VFL.

Voss had a lot of supporters but he was not left out of the side because he was young. He was left out because Scott was not changing the structure of the side and Voss is not a KPF so he was competing for a spot with Langford or Stringer. You could argue he should have changed the structure for sure but it was not a young v old thing.

Bryan was simply behind Draper and Flipper to start the year. Maybe he could have got another 3 or so games but Flipper had some solid form at stages and Bryan still needed physical development.

Baldwin was unlucky but it was more a form thing. Scott went with BTZ / Laverde / Ridley who all performed well enough over the year. I though he could have got a few more games as well but again it was not a young thing. It was more the older blokes where doing the job.

So there where 4 blokes you could really argue could have played more. However that is not the end of the story. On the flip side he played Davey early. Menzire all year. Cox in the back end of the year after injury. Tsatas before he was ready. Jones early on. Hobbs got 17 games. Perkins got a lot of midfield time by the end of the season.

So in reality he does not just like older guys. He has played a balance of both and played just as many young guys as he has left out and not played.

And finally the comment about which young guys have fought there way into the side. Well that is really just an attempt to try and move the goal posts. Given the amount of constant injury we had fighting your way into the side was not really a reality. Bryan did at one stage and then came in again when Sam was injured. Baldwin had good form but was behind 3 others for most of the year who performed well. Voss maybe but his form was very patchy across the whole year with good games followed up by a couple of average ones several times and by time Weid was on the down slope Voss was also mixing his form.

That bloke moving the goalposts within his posts? No way!

 

[Godzke]

Parish didn't play the first two games...

My bad - forgot he didn't play Rnd 1 but for some reason had it in my mind he did play vs Swans. Not sure how I mixed that up.

 

[ghostdog]

So the comment came up again in the Bryan thread about Scott preferring the old blokes over youth so this is the place to address it again. Fake news.
So we are only 3 games in so this year is hardly a guide so far but he did play Reid straight up and also went with Tsatas on a wing and also Davey as the sub (late change) despite him not having a great run of form. Has also moved Martin into a key role at half back (right or wrong he has done it). Has kept up with his Perkins midfield and also moved Durham there so there is trust in some younger players.

As for last year the 4 you would argue about would be Monty / Voss / Bryan / Baldwin.

Monty probably unlucky but he obviously was not going super well as no one else swooped on him. Dogs have him playing VFL.

Voss had a lot of supporters but he was not left out of the side because he was young. He was left out because Scott was not changing the structure of the side and Voss is not a KPF so he was competing for a spot with Langford or Stringer. You could argue he should have changed the structure for sure but it was not a young v old thing.

Bryan was simply behind Draper and Flipper to start the year. Maybe he could have got another 3 or so games but Flipper had some solid form at stages and Bryan still needed physical development.

Baldwin was unlucky but it was more a form thing. Scott went with BTZ / Laverde / Ridley who all performed well enough over the year. I though he could have got a few more games as well but again it was not a young thing. It was more the older blokes where doing the job.

So there where 4 blokes you could really argue could have played more. However that is not the end of the story. On the flip side he played Davey early. Menzire all year. Cox in the back end of the year after injury. Tsatas before he was ready. Jones early on. Hobbs got 17 games. Perkins got a lot of midfield time by the end of the season.

So in reality he does not just like older guys. He has played a balance of both and played just as many young guys as he has left out and not played.

And finally the comment about which young guys have fought there way into the side. Well that is really just an attempt to try and move the goal posts. Given the amount of constant injury we had fighting your way into the side was not really a reality. Bryan did at one stage and then came in again when Sam was injured. Baldwin had good form but was behind 3 others for most of the year who performed well. Voss maybe but his form was very patchy across the whole year with good games followed up by a couple of average ones several times and by time Weid was on the down slope Voss was also mixing his form.

I don't have an issue with it. He said from the moment he arrived that he was concerned that we were bereft of older experienced leaders. The 'AFL lifestyle' comment reinforces that to an extent as well - there hadn't been enough of that experience to guide/mentor the youngers. Bringing in Goldy and Gresham especially has been a move in the right direction in that regard as well. On field though, you can see he's finding a balance. Guys like the Daveys, Tsatas and hopefully Tex will get more time when they're ready, and Brad has obviously plotted to lift standards, hence Reid over Laverde. Good coaching.

 

[justlookingaround]

Goldstein's tapwork is elite. I don't see any issue with our developing ruckmen playing and training with one of the best to ever do it.

 

[mcgrath_truther]

i can see the vision and think he needs a long contract to reach his potential.

we're in good hands, though

 

[bombreys]

So the comment came up again in the Bryan thread about Scott preferring the old blokes over youth so this is the place to address it again. Fake news.
So we are only 3 games in so this year is hardly a guide so far but he did play Reid straight up and also went with Tsatas on a wing and also Davey as the sub (late change) despite him not having a great run of form. Has also moved Martin into a key role at half back (right or wrong he has done it). Has kept up with his Perkins midfield and also moved Durham there so there is trust in some younger players.

As for last year the 4 you would argue about would be Monty / Voss / Bryan / Baldwin.

Monty probably unlucky but he obviously was not going super well as no one else swooped on him. Dogs have him playing VFL.

Voss had a lot of supporters but he was not left out of the side because he was young. He was left out because Scott was not changing the structure of the side and Voss is not a KPF so he was competing for a spot with Langford or Stringer. You could argue he should have changed the structure for sure but it was not a young v old thing.

Bryan was simply behind Draper and Flipper to start the year. Maybe he could have got another 3 or so games but Flipper had some solid form at stages and Bryan still needed physical development.

Baldwin was unlucky but it was more a form thing. Scott went with BTZ / Laverde / Ridley who all performed well enough over the year. I though he could have got a few more games as well but again it was not a young thing. It was more the older blokes where doing the job.

So there where 4 blokes you could really argue could have played more. However that is not the end of the story. On the flip side he played Davey early. Menzire all year. Cox in the back end of the year after injury. Tsatas before he was ready. Jones early on. Hobbs got 17 games. Perkins got a lot of midfield time by the end of the season.

So in reality he does not just like older guys. He has played a balance of both and played just as many young guys as he has left out and not played.

And finally the comment about which young guys have fought there way into the side. Well that is really just an attempt to try and move the goal posts. Given the amount of constant injury we had fighting your way into the side was not really a reality. Bryan did at one stage and then came in again when Sam was injured. Baldwin had good form but was behind 3 others for most of the year who performed well. Voss maybe but his form was very patchy across the whole year with good games followed up by a couple of average ones several times and by time Weid was on the down slope Voss was also mixing his form.

Monty - definitely a bit stiff early, but form did waiver to end the year
Voss - probably the same as above, though rollercoaster form came at bad time(s). He was solid early and late in the season but his poor VFL form mid-year probably came at the time he was most likely for an AFL call up
Bryan - stiff last year vs Flip, but Draper and Goldy are quite simply better footballers - can't really complain this year
Baldwin - probably the unluckiest - I think both BZT and Lav were top/bottom 10 (BZT second?) in goals scored against, so Baldwin definitely could have been given a go, especially with how undersized we were last year.

How is asking which young players have broken into and cemented their spot in the side 'an attempt to move the goal posts'? Because the answer doesn't suit/fall in line with your own opinion? Again, you need to understand that first and second year players don't all just come in 'not ready'. Some of them come in ready or are ready for the big stage very early on. I'd argue that both Roberts and especially Hayes should be in contention this week (given the size of the Port KPF's & Ridley's unavailability) - at least as emergencies.

We're one of only five teams left not to give anyone a debut this season. And the only side to finish in the bottom 8 from last year not to do so. And it's again looking like we'll be a bit older than Port this weekend, which will potentially make it 4/4 rounds we're the older side.

 

[faible]

Monty - definitely a bit stiff early, but form did waiver to end the year
Voss - probably the same as above, though rollercoaster form came at bad time(s). He was solid early and late in the season but his poor VFL form mid-year probably came at the time he was most likely for an AFL call up
Bryan - stiff last year vs Flip, but Draper and Goldy are quite simply better footballers - can't really complain this year
Baldwin - probably the unluckiest - I think both BZT and Lav were top/bottom 10 (BZT second?) in goals scored against, so Baldwin definitely could have been given a go, especially with how undersized we were last year.

How is asking which young players have broken into and cemented their spot in the side 'an attempt to move the goal posts'? Because the answer doesn't suit/fall in line with your own opinion? Again, you need to understand that first and second year players don't all just come in 'not ready'. Some of them come in ready or are ready for the big stage very early on. I'd argue that both Roberts and especially Hayes should be in contention this week (given the size of the Port KPF's & Ridley's unavailability) - at least as emergencies.

We're one of only five teams left not to give anyone a debut this season. And the only side to finish in the bottom 8 from last year not to do so. And it's again looking like we'll be a bit older than Port this weekend, which will potentially make it 4/4 rounds we're the older side.

You're genuinely dedicated to finding new and inventive ways to ignore all context to have a crack at the club, i'll give you that.

 

[bombreys]

You're genuinely dedicated to finding new and inventive ways to ignore all context to have a crack at the club, i'll give you that.

Who's having a crack? I'm stating we're not a young side, as is evident in being the older team 4 weeks in a row. And that Scott prefers to play the older guys, as is evident by being the only club in the bottom 8 not to debut someone and no younger player breaking into and cementing his spot in the 22 since he's been here.