Rumour Rumors of cat player in big trouble

[Duckimus Prime]

What a strange hill to die on.

Either this was some incredible attempt to troll Geelong or ‘Big Vic clubs’ or you honestly believe this.

Regardless it’s still such an insulting take on such a tragic situation.

Wait, you think its insulting to a victim that there are potentially AFL Footballers who think they can get away with things simply because they're AFL Footballers?

And that this potentially wouldn't extend even more to AFL Footballers at a highly successful big club?

It boggles the mind that people here think this is a bad take...

We've seen Geelong fans bring up West Coast as an argument against this. I mean ****ing seriously, have a look at the West Coast sides that have had the highly publicised drug/party issues. They coincide with the eras of success.

 

[Delisted]

Wait, you think its insulting to a victim that there are potentially AFL Footballers who think they can get away with things simply because they're AFL Footballers?

And that this potentially wouldn't extend even more to AFL Footballers at a highly successful big club?

It boggles the mind that people here think this is a bad take...

We've seen Geelong fans bring up West Coast as an argument against this. I mean ****ing seriously, have a look at the West Coast sides that have had the highly publicised drug/party issues. They coincide with the eras of success.

If you can't grasp why it's a dumb argument or why it's insulting your very narrow minded. Think outside the box a bit ffs.

 

[spenze]

I think the NRL method has merit (and those are hard words to type) where the player is stood down. I get it, that in this situation they probably have to wait for the suppression order to be lifted first but I hope when it is, the league is quick to do so.

Just stood down, player X is facing serious charges and will be stood down until the matter is resolved.

 

[Strange Cat]

I feel for the victim and if the player is found guilty his career is the least of his concerns.

Anyone trying to make this out to be a club issue is obviously trolling and point scoring.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

If you can't grasp why it's a dumb argument or why it's insulting your very narrow minded. Think outside the box a bit ffs.

Coming from someone who display picture is basically the perfect example of someone who thinks he can do anything simply because he's famous.

 

[dangerwood]

Agree mate. I respect that you're not afraid to call things as you see it despite lots of agitated Geelong supporters jumping down your throat. Very refreshing.

If these allegations are true, then serious questions need to be asked about Geelong's culture and want went wrong for this kid while at that football club.

The serious questions that need to be asked are of the individual that allegedly committed the crime. If further evidence presents, that this was part of some club sanctioned activity, then we can start getting the pitch forks out at the club. I fear debating theses irrational arguments only further detracts from the actual issue but seriously, have some more thought.

The sense of shadenfruede coming through from some posters because this is Geelong is clear, but please, take your pleasure from wins on the field or Geelong loses - not a sexual assualt or rape.

Is there an increased sense of disappointment for Geelong supporters? yeah probably because you don't want to be seen or considered to be seen as supportive of anything associated with this type of behaviour. You support a football club and by association their players, so there feels to be a correct sense as a supporter to almost take some ownership and say "yes I barrack for Geelong, but I certainly don't endorse anything related to assualt" and I think most Geelong supporters are doing that. Take enjoyment from that if you choose, saying "you're sweating" "Geelong supporters are nervous" but I dunno....I think those doing it should reflect.

 

[Percel]

Is this the Feb '23 one?

 

[Delisted]

Coming from someone who display picture is basically the perfect example of someone who thinks he can do anything simply because he's famous.

Do not put this anywhere near back on me.

I'm going dumb this down a lot for you.

1. By your logic in social economical areas crime and SA should be low. It's not. Because no success, get it???

2. This is a sensitive topic because it is not fundamentally about any AFL club, but the fact someone has allegedly be r*ped and lives ruined.

3. Pen folds was trying to rationalise why the person in question may of did it.

Here is the big part your small brain cannot comprehend. There just might be people on this site who read that and most likely will take offense.

Even worse is:
If you were to go up to the victim and say "y'know he only did it cos he plays for a successful club... If he didn't you'd probs be ok'. That would be highly rude. Disgusting. Offensive and DING DING DING!!! Insulting.

I've been on this site for nearly 20 years but this is the most idiotic take and defense of one I've seen. I'm out.

 

[The Casey Cat]

And here I was thinking I was the biggest w***er on bigfooty.

And people wonder why we have no time for these ignorant, deluded ####wit Tigs fans on here (not all as there are plenty of good ones, just these unhinged dipsh!ts).

 

[Partridge]

I'd suggest it's pretty naive to think the journos didn't already know...
From what I know, they absolutely did/do... They just report anything about it so they haven't.
No idea what tomorrow brings, but they will most likely be just trying to avoid mentioning it if nothing changes and they aren't able to talk about it

I'd be amazed if they didn't.

The reality is, there would be unseemly activity going on at all clubs (more accurately by some players), and a fair chunk of it would be kept secret by journalists. For a simple reason, they don't want to lose their all access pass to players and coaches, which they depend on for their existence. And it's happened at all clubs. Honestly I think we know 10% at most of what really goes on.

 

[Warhorse]

We have Clark who is ready to get a run through the midfield. Hopefully a pick in the mid season draft. A shame but luckily our list is looking healthy

 

[thegerman]

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We have Clark who is ready to get a run through the midfield. Hopefully a pick in the mid season draft. A shame but luckily our list is looking healthy

Yeah but hold off for say a Rowell? You’d rather a mid season pick over a possible starter?



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[gambinotosserflog]

I'd be amazed if they didn't.

The reality is, there would be unseemly activity going on at all clubs (more accurately by some players), and a fair chunk of it would be kept secret by journalists. For a simple reason, they don't want to lose their all access pass to players and coaches, which they depend on for their existence. And it's happened at all clubs. Honestly I think we know 10% at most of what really goes on.

Spot on. Also a fair contingent of dorks in the media, and they are as starstruck as anyone.

 

[gambinotosserflog]

I think the NRL method has merit (and those are hard words to type) where the player is stood down. I get it, that in this situation they probably have to wait for the suppression order to be lifted first but I hope when it is, the league is quick to do so.

Just stood down, player X is facing serious charges and will be stood down until the matter is resolved.

i get the PR angle, but i also think of innocent till proven guilty.

 

[Saints4ever]

Can just imagine jury selection.

Do you read or post on Big Footy?

Do you support the Richmond football club?

Thank you you’re dismissed.

 

[spenze]

i get the PR angle, but i also think of innocent till proven guilty.

But that isn't the point in this. It isn't that there is a rumour; it (eventually anyway, when the case has been started and the suppression order lifted) is a situation of being charged with a serious crime.

It is best for all if the player charged is removed from the situation so the trial can take its due course. We don't have the club saying something stupid like "we'll wrap our arms around him" which will disgust most of the supporters of the game. We also don't have the player picked to play where it needs just one fan to jump the fence.

With what the NRL do, they acknowledge it, stand the player down and then it is no longer a talking point in the sport and the trial takes its course. At no point are they saying he is guilty or not guilty, he is charged with a serious crime, they can't just ignore it. The club then gets to provide support away from the club without it looking like it has condoned the alleged crime in the eyes of some.

 

[spenze]

Can just imagine jury selection.

Do you read or post on Big Footy?

Do you support the Richmond football club?

Thank you you’re dismissed.

I would have thought that would be for any trial in Australia...

 

[D BRIDGE]

As a Geelong supporter I’m hardly stressed one bit.

From a pure footy based perspective… I hardly rate said player and whilst losing him as a player isn’t ideal, it’s not in the same world as losing a gun in Holmes, Cameron or Smith.

So in a football sense I’m not stressed.

We just won by 78 points and I’m pretty sure the players/club already know much more about the situation than us.

If the guy is guilty… he is goners, simple as that.

If not… well that still sucks because he will always be tarnished, but it’s far better than being guilty I guess.

There is no winners in this no matter which way it swings.

GFC will keep on keeping on.

I know absolutely zero about the case.

 

[gambinotosserflog]

But that isn't the point in this. It isn't that there is a rumour; it (eventually anyway, when the case has been started and the suppression order lifted) is a situation of being charged with a serious crime.

It is best for all if the player charged is removed from the situation so the trial can take its due course. We don't have the club saying something stupid like "we'll wrap our arms around him" which will disgust most of the supporters of the game. We also don't have the player picked to play where it needs just one fan to jump the fence.

With what the NRL do, they acknowledge it, stand the player down and then it is no longer a talking point in the sport and the trial takes its course. At no point are they saying he is guilty or not guilty, he is charged with a serious crime, they can't just ignore it. The club then gets to provide support away from the club without it looking like it has condoned the alleged crime in the eyes of some.

so you've just acknowledged a lot of it is perception and pr. meanwhile if its a rookie player, they lose financially. will they be provided restitution for lost earnings after the fact if they're not guilty?

 

[spenze]

so you've just acknowledged a lot of it is perception and pr. meanwhile if its a rookie player, they lose financially. will they be provided restitution for lost earnings after the fact if they're not guilty?

You don't understand what stood down means. He will be paid his wage until the outcome of the trial.

 

[Corkintheocean]

I'm pretty concerned about this. In our run to winning the 2025 flag it would be nice to have a full list of players to chose from.

There's already one fella in here making a complete d*ickhead of himself. Don't turn it a competition.

Have some respect for the alleged victim ffs.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Do not put this anywhere near back on me.

I'm going dumb this down a lot for you.

1. By your logic in social economical areas crime and SA should be low. It's not. Because no success, get it???

No, thats not what is being implied at all. Simply stating that some people when they get into positions of power/celebrity in arrogance become more and more of a position that they can do whatever they want.

And moving from being an AFL footballer in Sydney (where the general public is barely going to care) to an AFL footballer in Melbourne can feed into the belief of being able to do what they want.

And if you don't think that AFL Footballers in Melbourne who play for Collingwood/Geelong/Richmond are getting more celebrity treatment than players from North, you're kidding yourself. And that can feed into a belief of being able to do whatever the **** they want.

2. This is a sensitive topic because it is not fundamentally about any AFL club, but the fact someone has allegedly be r*ped and lives ruined.

3. Pen folds was trying to rationalise why the person in question may of did it.

Here is the big part your small brain cannot comprehend. There just might be people on this site who read that and most likely will take offense.

Take offence of the fact that celebrities may think they can do what they want and get away with it? And the bigger the celebrity they are, the more they think they can get away with?

Donald Trump famously said that he could murder someone in broad daylight on Wall Street and escape punishment simply because of who he is. And that was prior to his election.

Even worse is:
If you were to go up to the victim and say "y'know he only did it cos he plays for a successful club... If he didn't you'd probs be ok'. That would be highly rude. Disgusting. Offensive and DING DING DING!!! Insulting.

I've been on this site for nearly 20 years but this is the most idiotic take and defense of one I've seen. I'm out.

I mean jesus ****ing christ, the whole concept of Jeffrey Epstein's island and P Diddy's parties is because of shithole Celebrities thinking they can do what they want to "smaller profile people" simply because they're celebrities? And you think that an idiotic take?

 

[Warhorse]

There's already one fella in here making a complete d*ickhead of himself. Don't turn it a competition.

Have some respect for the alleged victim ffs.

Losing a player can be hard for the club and I think worthy of a discussion. Hopefully it opens up a spot in the mid season draft

As a Geelong supporter I’m hardly stressed one bit.

From a pure footy based perspective… I hardly rate said player and whilst losing him as a player isn’t ideal, it’s not in the same world as losing a gun in Holmes, Cameron or Smith.

So in a football sense I’m not stressed.

We just won by 78 points and I’m pretty sure the players/club already know much more about the situation than us.

If the guy is guilty… he is goners, simple as that.

If not… well that still sucks because he will always be tarnished, but it’s far better than being guilty I guess.

There is no winners in this no matter which way it swings.

GFC will keep on keeping on.

I know absolutely zero about the case.

Thankfully it's not a good player we are losing

 

[fpm84]

As for the media, I'll add that I watch every Chris Scott presser in full. In the lead up to opening round and round 1, he was asked in depth about each player on our injury list (Guthrie, Mannagh, Kolodjashnij and others) and provided updates on how each was tracking. The status of the accused player has not once been asked about, despite him being a member of our best 22, and currently on the injury list with no timeframe.

It is very clear that the league, club and accredited media have a firm plan to ensure the suppression order is followed which at the end of the day will hopefully allow for a fair trial for the alleged victim (assuming it goes to trial).

 

[Daka]

Even before the named was leaked on the website.
everyone knew including the biggest media journo's, AFL media use BigFooty/Reddit

It's the casuals that may not have been aware.
His name was trending twitter/x last night and has been trending all day today.
If some people weren't aware of it, everyone is now.