Rumour Rumors of cat player in big trouble

[PenfoldsFan]

So his thinking was. “I’ve now aligned myself with a successful Victorian club. I’m possibly gonna SA someone and not get away with it”

Was it?

 

[Munich]

With the exception of the Burgoyne, Heuskes, O'loughlin case, which as you agree falls outside the timeframe specified, im not sure the others are on the same level as sports PED doping and breaches of WHO protocol during a pandemic.

What on earth are you on about.

I'd concentrate on your absolute rabble & embarrassment of a football club if I were you.

 

[D BRIDGE]

With the exception of the Burgoyne, Heuskes, O'loughlin case, which as you agree falls outside the timeframe specified, im not sure the others are on the same level as sports PED doping and breaches of WHO protocol during a pandemic.

What does that have to do with Geelong?

 

[Richmond Flats]

I think you will find that is not the case, Geelong fans are disgusted if in fact he is guilty and has done this.. and all will not hesitate in wanting him booted instantly.
No one is making excuses or trying to justify it... the only people doing that are oppo fans saying Cats fans are doing that, with no evidence to back it up

Did you read what I wrote?

 

[Pooks]

The Crown gets it's pound of flesh first, but let's not pretend the AFL won't hold a press conference after ostensibly on his immediate future with the AFL, but it's really an opportunity for the AFL to present itself in the favorable light.

What I don't get is why the AFL used him in promotional material prior to R0 - I saw him shared on their instagram stories. This story has been brewing for quite a while - it wouldn't have been news to anyone..
In fact, when I saw that instagram story all those weeks ago, it made me wonder if it was the speculated individual or not.. it was foolish by the AFL.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

What does that have to do with Geelong?

Nothing, it involved other big and or succesful Vic clubs which was my initial point, only Phatboy overlooked those two incidents and instead listed recreational drug use as recent scandals.

 

[Willo_]

Did you read what I wrote?

I am not sure what about my reply implied that I hadn't

 

[Delisted]

Was it?

What a strange hill to die on.

Either this was some incredible attempt to troll Geelong or ‘Big Vic clubs’ or you honestly believe this.

Regardless it’s still such an insulting take on such a tragic situation.

 

[The Unforgiven]

Obviously, we are all responsible for our actions.
My point is, sometimes outside influence can shape our choices.
Here we have a young Man, who, if the allegations are found to be true, suddenly became a perpetrator of a serious crime, that anyone who knew him from his GWS days and prior may say they didnt see that coming.
So what changed, he moved back home to his place of comfort and joined an establishment the oozes success and doesnt mind who it upsets in the pursuit, an obvious arrogance.

Look at another recently succesful big club, thumbing their noses at the very rules that allowed the comp to continue during Covid whilst everyone else was locked away, success and arrogance.
I doubt the club said do it but the mindset is obvious.

Jog on, mate. That's a ridiculous bow to draw.

 

[MadMundy]

This shit is bigger than football, people using this thread as an excuse to dunk on other clubs are pathetic, these are real human beings dealing with this stuff, take the football glasses off for a moment.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

What a strange hill to die on.

Either this was some incredible attempt to troll Geelong or ‘Big Vic clubs’ or you honestly believe this.

Regardless it’s still such an insulting take on such a tragic situation.

I dont believe questioning why an individual would chose that time in their lives to allegedly commit such an act is insulting at all.
People make mistakes, sometimes terrible ones that need to be punished accordingly if found to be true.
There is still a place for understanding why and education.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Its really not.

As I said, that the majority of recent scandals have come from clubs in an area that has seen the most recent success isnt a coincidence.

Arguably the biggest recent scandal in terms of horrible personal behaviour (certainly the biggest in terms of outcome) was Tarryn Thomas.

You know, from that big arrogant all-powerful flushed-with-recent-success North Melbourne.

 

[PhatBoy]

Nothing, it involved other big and or succesful Vic clubs which was my initial point, only Phatboy overlooked those two incidents and instead listed recreational drug use as recent scandals.

You are literally saying that on one hand players think they can get away with breaking one law because they are from VIC clubs, but guys in other states break other laws because, well just because.

Hell, you’ve even gone into the pandemic to make your point - despite the fact that two of the five clubs sanctioned for breaches of WHO protocols were Sydney and Brisbane, and of the main handful of individuals who were done for breaches, one of them was Elijah Taylor from Sydney.

So I’ll ask again.

Do you think the Victorian players are guilty of these things ‘because they’re Victorian’ but the other guys who do them, do them ‘just because’?

Maybe, just a thought, they do them because they’re morons making huge mistakes at the cost of both themselves and others

 

[D BRIDGE]

Nothing, it involved other big and or succesful Vic clubs which was my initial point, only Phatboy overlooked those two incidents and instead listed recreational drug use as recent scandals.

Ok, so if a club that isn't Geelong does something untoward... Geelong players could subconsciously decide to transgress and commit crimes.

I understand your point lol.

 

[Warhorse]

I'm pretty concerned about this. In our run to winning the 2025 flag it would be nice to have a full list of players to chose from.

 

[Pooks]

I'm pretty concerned about this. In our run to winning the 2025 flag it would be nice to have a full list of players to chose from.

Between the cats supporters here, I think the vast majority of supporters here would not endorse him being available for selection until the criminal matter is resolved. I certainly don't, anyway. The thought of any of our guys being in this position where they can even be accused of something like this makes me sick to the stomach.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

You are literally saying that on one hand players think they can get away with breaking one law because they are from VIC clubs, but guys in other states break other laws because, well just because.

Hell, you’ve even gone into the pandemic to make your point - despite the fact that two of the five clubs sanctioned for breaches of WHO protocols were Sydney and Brisbane, and of the main handful of individuals who were done for breaches, one of them was Elijah Taylor from Sydney.

So I’ll ask again.

Do you think the Victorian players are guilty of these things ‘because they’re Victorian’ but the other guys who do them, do them ‘just because’?

Maybe, just a thought, they do them because they’re morons making huge mistakes at the cost of both themselves and others

His girlfriend broke into the resort he was staying at, he didnt go out.

Tell us where the WA grand final border breach came from.

 

[Delisted]

I dont believe questioning why an individual would chose that time in their lives to allegedly commit such an act is insulting at all.
People make mistakes, sometimes terrible ones that need to be punished accordingly if found to be true.
There is still a place for understanding why and education.

if you don’t think your stance is insulting to the victim and possibly offensive to others I can’t help you. Honestly you should just drop it and move on.

 

[Taylor]

I dont believe questioning why an individual would chose that time in their lives to allegedly commit such an act is insulting at all.
People make mistakes, sometimes terrible ones that need to be punished accordingly if found to be true.
There is still a place for understanding why and education.

People throughout history have used the power and influence of their position and fame to achieve selfish and devious ends. Sometimes "choosing that time in their lives" is just seizing on the opportunity presented.

 

[Mr Meow]

if you don’t think your stance is insulting to the victim and possibly offensive to others I can’t help you. Honestly you should just drop it and move on.

Oh, it's just some innocent "understanding and education" from eminent philosopher PenfoldsFan.

 

[PhatBoy]

His girlfriend broke into the resort he was staying at, he didnt go out.

Tell us where the WA grand final border breach came from.

From one of the smallest clubs in Victoria

Really? That’s your excuse?

Do you think he had no say in that? She just thought ‘I’ll pop in and find him, it’ll be ok.’

She got no encouragement.

You are delusional.

 

[The Unforgiven]

I dont believe questioning why an individual would chose that time in their lives to allegedly commit such an act is insulting at all.
People make mistakes, sometimes terrible ones that need to be punished accordingly if found to be true.
There is still a place for understanding why and education.

You're spewing absolute brain rot. You're scraping the bottom of the barrel trying spinning this as something that could be attributed to the Geelong Football Club as a smear.

The player in question, like all players, is responsible for his actions. If he is found guilty in a court, for the crimes accused, then he should face the full force of the law.

To suggest that there's some correlation between the success of the club that one plays for and the propensity for one to commit heinous crimes like this is patently absurd.

To go one further, without evidence, to attribute the club's success as some kind of complicity in fostering an unchecked culture where players feel impunity and therefore more likely to commit a crime is as insulting as it is comical.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

People throughout history have used the power and influence of their position and fame to achieve selfish and devious ends. Sometimes "choosing that time in their lives" is just seizing on the opportunity presented.

Agreed.

Educating against both would seem the right approach moving forward which would require understanding on a case by case basis.

 

[Delisted]

Oh, it's just some innocent "understanding and education" from eminent philosopher PenfoldsFan.

I’m being genuine here as didn’t really understand what he wrote, was that his sentiment? Jesus and you think I lack self awareness.

 

[Taylor]

From one of the smallest clubs in Victoria

Really? That’s your excuse?

Do you think he had no say in that? She just thought ‘I’ll pop in and find him, it’ll be ok.’

She got no encouragement.

You are delusional.

I can tell you from personal experience that you didn't need to put any effort in to "break into" that accommodation. At all. You also didn't need to have any special knowledge of where it was. You could step out of a car on the side of the road and walk down the fairway all the way to the facilities.