2023/2024 Gold Coast Draft & Trade periods

[Brenton87]

Was Harley a bad trade?

Seems like we did quite well really considering Harley virtually never played another game and remained constantly
In trouble.


Harley,
2015: pick 24, pick 37, pick 55

For

2015: pick 20, pick 52
2016: pick 22

Considering what happened with Harley it was a great trade lol, we could of wasted a list spot and $$$ if he didn't get traded

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Considering what happened with Harley it was a great trade lol, we could of wasted a list spot and $$$ if he didn't get traded

Was Harley a bad trade?

Seems like we did quite well really considering Harley virtually never played another game and remained constantly
In trouble.


Harley,
2015: pick 24, pick 37, pick 55

For

2015: pick 20, pick 52
2016: pick 22

What we did with those picks - a different story to some degree.

Freo picked Darcy tucker who is average but played 105 games to date and still active
Harley Balic- played 4 games
Sam collins - played 14 games for Freo before delisted.

We picked
Brayden Fiorini - probably similar level to tucker, played 72 games
Pearce hanley - played 40 games.
McKenzie Willis - played 5 games

Probably didn’t capitalise like we should have. Pearce didn’t exactly light it up on field. Depends how important his experience/leadership was as a senior player influencing young Touk Miller, Wil Powell, Ben Ainsworth, Sam collins, Charlie Ballard etc.. during those 2017-2020 years.

With the pick we gave up for Handley lions picked Cedric cox, who did nothing in his career anyway.

The next 5 picks though were: Ben long, Brandon parfitt, Zac fishet, lipinski, Shai Bolton..

 

[Ben Drever]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/rumour-swirling-afl-rising-star-offered-105m-by-rival-club/news-story/34b471badb51d1ce4df659b79aefd38a

Huge contract if true.

Wonder when the last time the Suns saved some coin for post season trading splurge

 

[The Kings Ransom]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/rumour-swirling-afl-rising-star-offered-105m-by-rival-club/news-story/34b471badb51d1ce4df659b79aefd38a

Huge contract if true.

Wonder when the last time the Suns saved some coin for post season trading splurge

Apparently Sumich has a 0% hit rate.
Just makes shit up.

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Thomas would be a great addition. Had a fantastic 3rd season last year.
Been trash this year.
Get him up here with some stronger leaders and better culture and watch him flourish.

We've got a stock pile of second rounders..

 

[Southern Sun]

Thomas would be a great get. Definitely have the draft picks that could get it done.

 

[CanYouFeelTheSunburn]

and let me guess our trades and draft team will give up Rowell, Anderson and 2 first rounders for Logue. We should never deal with Freo they think ( quite rightly) that we are idiots based on previous trades, Harley, Weller, Brodie

Exactly so I think it’s our turn to get one back up on them.

 

[robo_1]

Thomas basically Will Brodie

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Will Brodie

Age

26

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

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19.0

5star

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8.2

3star

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10.8

5star

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3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

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10.0

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M

3.0

3star

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1.0

2star

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3.0

4star

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13.8

4star

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7.4

3star

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6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

this place will meltdown if he gets picked up

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Thomas would be a great get. Definitely have the draft picks that could get it done.

Apparently the article just says he is going to play out his contract for the next 2 years.

North are definitely a trading partner though.
They will want more picks this year, only having their first and then no other pick until number 56.


We should definitely look at trading some for futures if we can't get mature players in.
ie. 28 and 46 for their 2023 2nd rounder.

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Thomas basically Will Brodie this place will meltdown if he gets picked up

Did you just say Tarryn Thomas is basically Will Brodie?

 

[Iva Bigun]

Was Harley a bad trade?

Seems like we did quite well really considering Harley virtually never played another game and remained constantly
In trouble.


Harley,
2015: pick 24, pick 37, pick 55

For

2015: pick 20, pick 52
2016: pick 22

I don’t think we knew Harley would never play when we traded him ( poor guy) he was a troubled game winner and clearly one of our top 5 players and we sold him for a 4 spot upgrade and a 2nd rounder

Plus I think one of both of those 2nd rounders went into the eagles trade making is truely horrible

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Apparently the article just says he is going to play out his contract for the next 2 years.

North are definitely a trading partner though.
They will want more picks this year, only having their first and then no other pick until number 56.


We should definitely look at trading some for futures if we can't get mature players in.
ie. 28 and 46 for their 2023 2nd rounder.

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I like this idea, either going for Thomas or future North picks. What do you think he's worth?

Brisbane will be in need of picks for their F/S draftees. Wonder if we could shake Jack Payne loose?

 

[The Kings Ransom]

I don’t think we knew Harley would never play when we traded him ( poor guy) he was a troubled game winner and clearly one of our top 5 players and we sold him for a 4 spot upgrade and a 2nd rounder

Yeah, wish we had the leadership around the club when he was here.
Could have been anything.
Still awarded 8 Brownlow votes in his last year with us.

I think missing at least 7 games in 4 out of 5 seasons, because of injury was a decent history.
The club obviously had better insight into his calves and mid frame than we do.

 

[Jirik13]

I don’t think we knew Harley would never play when we traded him ( poor guy) he was a troubled game winner and clearly one of our top 5 players and we sold him for a 4 spot upgrade and a 2nd rounder

Please correct me if I don't remember correctly, but according to Rocket Harley had 5-6 off field incidents (half not public) and put on trade after he assaulted a security at the night club and Suns publicly stated he will be moved on. I still remember the presser. Not sure what people expected he would be traded for after that. Extremely talented but definitely not a poor guy in my eyes unless you believe he is not responsible for his actions and all blame is on the club.

 

[The Kings Ransom]

I like this idea, either going for Thomas or future North picks. What do you think he's worth?

Brisbane will be in need of picks for their F/S draftees. Wonder if we could shake Jack Payne lose?

Yep.
Target those teams that need picks - but see if we can get a mature player part of it.

Not sure for Thomas. I think he could be a really good player, particularly in a good team.
Depends how the rest of his year pans out. If he returns to form, somewhere between 12 - 15?
If he doesn't, somewhere between 18 - 22?

Obviously he would have to request to leave though which seems the most unlikely part.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Please correct me if I don't remember correctly, but according to Rocket Harley had 5-6 off field incidents (half not public) and put on trade after he assaulted a security at the night club and Suns publicly stated he will be moved on. I still remember the presser. Not sure what people expected he would be traded for after that. Extremely talented but definitely not a poor guy in my eyes unless you believe he is not responsible for his actions and all blame is on the club.

I don’t think anything you said is wrong. In fact you are correct The club shot itself in the foot by publicly stating during the season Harley would be traded at years end. totally disintegrated any leverage we had, it was DAF.

As for the “poor guy “ comment both can be true, Harley needed to take responsibility and the club could of and perhaps should of done more. In my eyes he was a talent lost to the game

 

[RowellAnderson12]

Yep.
Target those teams that need picks - but see if we can get a mature player part of it.

Not sure for Thomas. I think he could be a really good player, particularly in a good team.
Depends how the rest of his year pans out. If he returns to form, somewhere between 12 - 15?
If he doesn't, somewhere between 18 - 22?

Obviously he would have to request to leave though which seems the most unlikely part.

Thomas could be a superstar, he was getting Petracca comparisons at the same age and coming off pretty even. Yes CP5 did start his career slow from knee injuries but both were in struggling sides.

Not sure what he’s doing this year I know he broke his ribs but still… not being able to get a game in this side is laughable.

Goalkicking mid potentially available from the 2018 super draft? Yes please

Pic attached is both players age 21

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Thomas could be a superstar, he was getting Petracca comparisons at the same age and coming off pretty even. Yes CP5 did start his career slow from knee injuries but both were in struggling sides.

Not sure what he’s doing this year I know he broke his ribs but still… not being able to get a game in this side is laughable.

Goalkicking mid potentially available from the 2018 super draft? Yes please

Pic attached is both players age 21

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Yeah, his last year was superb.
Could easily see him playing half forward. Kicking 35+ goals and coming into the midfield for meaningful minutes.

 

[Jessbek]

Noah also just keeps his head down, doesn't care about other going ons and actually wants to be here. We traded pick 2 to try and get a sniff of that a few years ago.

3 years from now he will be a 30 touches 1 goal a game mid

 

[MarcLocksCrustySock]

Noah Anderson

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Noah Anderson

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

0.0

1star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

CL

0.0

1star

is a beast. **** outta here saying otherwise, you can fight me.

lol

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Players who have kicked a goal every round so far

Hawkins
M.King
C.Cameron
Fritsch
Chol

Very good pick up.

 

[SUNS]

Players who have kicked a goal every round so far

Hawkins
M.King
C.Cameron
Fritsch
Chol

Very good pick up.

Any idea what our longest streak is for goals in consecutive games for a player?

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Any idea what our longest streak is for goals in consecutive games for a player?

Don't know.
Just looked up Tom Lynch.
Had 32 consecutive games with a goal between 2015-16-17

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Question re: Jordan De Goey

2

Jordan De Goey

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.1

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

15.8

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

2.3

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

4.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

.
Talk about him on the couch.
Apparently St Kilda offering him 5 years 1 million

Is he even that good?

21 possessions, 3.8 marks, 2.5 tackles
12 goals
19th in the league in centre clearances.

I mean he's clearly quite a good player - but is he really at that level?

I swear half of it is his name, his look, the Collingwood boost.

Greene, Heeney, Bailey, Bolton even Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

25

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

arguably having better seasons as high half forwards
Bontempelli, Petracca, Neale, Treloar, Parker, Gresham even Nic martin having better seasons as goal kicking mids.

 

[RowellAnderson12]

Question re: Jordan De Goey.
Talk about him on the couch.
Apparently St Kilda offering him 5 years 1 million

Is he even that good?

21 possessions, 3.8 marks, 2.5 tackles
12 goals
19th in the league in centre clearances.

I mean he's clearly quite a good player - but is he really at that level?

I swear half of it is his name, his look, the Collingwood boost.

Greene, Heeney, Bailey, Bolton even Dylan Moore arguably having better seasons as high half forwards
Bontempelli, Petracca, Neale, Treloar, Parker, Gresham even Nic martin having better seasons as goal kicking mids.

700k max to get him as RFA so yes 1mil is overs but saints have paid overs to Hannebery & Hill in recent years.

Way too much baggage, Pies would want a first round compo to let him go. They have to let him go. Do they really want to be stuck with him for his next stuff up?