No Oppo Supporters Tom Stewart's targeted KO'ing of Prestia - 4 week ban

[Sterge]

Some of you need to chill out, be better than geelong supporters.

We dont need to wish injuries on anyone or hope someone evens it up.

Just be content in the fact we win when it really matters.

Also the thread is about Stewart and Prestia

 

[Grockadoc]

careless...?

wonder if this has anything to do with their coaches brother being the one giving the final tick off to MRO decisions

SHocking rubbing his hands together Mr. Burns style after making a phone call to Gil...

 

[All Aust]

Initially I was not that serious, however I believe the club should consider pursuing both Stewart personally and the AFL on assault and WHS grounds respectively. Reality is Prestia was knocked out for no reason and play continued. The AFL has identified controls for this situation - stop play and 50m penalty - and decided to enact neither of them.
This is a failure of their duty to maintain an existing control. Clear breach of WHS legislation.
Seperate proceedings against Stewart for assault.
Let’s face it our relationship with the AFL cannot get any worse. This would be a massive shot across the bows that we will not accept the AFL’s behaviour and we are strong, not weak, so we will not agree to one of their famous deals or repent under media pressure from the usual suspects.
There is nothing for the club to lose. I first thought about this as a bit of a long shot but the more I read the more I am convinced the club should give legal action serious thought.

Reportable incidents to Worksafe Victoria are:

You must report incidents resulting in​

• death of a person
• a person needing medical treatment within 48 hours of being exposed to a substance
• a person needing immediate treatment as an in-patient in a hospital
• a person needing immediate medical treatment for one of the following injuries: amputation, serious head injury or serious eye injury, removal of skin (example: de-gloving, scalping), electric shock, spinal injury, loss of a bodily function, serious lacerations (example: requiring stitching or other medical treatment)

Medical treatment means treatment by a person registered under the Health Practitioner Regulation National Law to practice in the medical or nursing or midwifery profession (doctor, nurse, midwife etc.).

Thus all concussions should get reported to the Regulator. Noting, there is no history of the Regulator prosecuting against any concussion in an AFL game.

Both corporate bodies and the individual may get prosecuted under the Occupational Health and Safety Act 2004.

The Questions:
Was Dion at work?
Was the head injury serious?
Who is Dion's employer? (employer = Person Conducting a Business or Undertaking (PCBU) = RFC),
Was RFC contracted to play AFL (AFL then also becomes a PCBU /employer)
Do the AFL contract umpires as responsible people or PCBU's.
Are Umpires corporate bodies or individuals?

It would be several years before a court sorted this out.

 

[chriso11]

Joke of a sport. Rules adjudicated by “common sense” and disciplinary penalties based on how good a bloke is.

 

[SunshineBoy]

Whatever happens won’t return the points so I’m off to watch state of origin and leave the metheads to run the afl

 

[tigerisland]

Reportable incidents to Worksafe Victoria are:

You must report incidents resulting in​

• death of a person
• a person needing medical treatment within 48 hours of being exposed to a substance
• a person needing immediate treatment as an in-patient in a hospital
• a person needing immediate medical treatment for one of the following injuries: amputation, serious head injury or serious eye injury, removal of skin (example: de-gloving, scalping), electric shock, spinal injury, loss of a bodily function, serious lacerations (example: requiring stitching or other medical treatment)

Medical treatment means treatment by a person registered under the Health Practitioner Regulation National Law to practice in the medical or nursing or midwifery profession (doctor, nurse, midwife etc.).

Thus all concussions should get reported to the Regulator. Noting, there is no history of the Regulator prosecuting against any concussion in an AFL game.

Both corporate bodies and the individual may get prosecuted under the Occupational Health and Safety Act 2004.

The Questions:
Was Dion at work?
Was the head injury serious?
Who is Dion's employer? (employer = Person Conducting a Business or Undertaking (PCBU) = RFC),
Was RFC contracted to play AFL (AFL then also becomes a PCBU /employer)
Do the AFL contract umpires as responsible people or PCBU's.
Are Umpires corporate bodies or individuals?

It would be several years before a court sorted this out.

Seems Dion has a good case. It would take years. Those intervening years would provide endless entertainment. I am particularly looking forward to subpoenaing AFL correspondence around how the umpiring of RFC games to prove their is a bias and that was why the AFL breached its WHS obligations.
Dan has to go. Need someone like Luke Hodge running umpiring.

 

[Defibrillate]

Reportable incidents to Worksafe Victoria are:

You must report incidents resulting in​

• death of a person
• a person needing medical treatment within 48 hours of being exposed to a substance
• a person needing immediate treatment as an in-patient in a hospital
• a person needing immediate medical treatment for one of the following injuries: amputation, serious head injury or serious eye injury, removal of skin (example: de-gloving, scalping), electric shock, spinal injury, loss of a bodily function, serious lacerations (example: requiring stitching or other medical treatment)

Medical treatment means treatment by a person registered under the Health Practitioner Regulation National Law to practice in the medical or nursing or midwifery profession (doctor, nurse, midwife etc.).

Thus all concussions should get reported to the Regulator. Noting, there is no history of the Regulator prosecuting against any concussion in an AFL game.

Both corporate bodies and the individual may get prosecuted under the Occupational Health and Safety Act 2004.

The Questions:
Was Dion at work?
Was the head injury serious?
Who is Dion's employer? (employer = Person Conducting a Business or Undertaking (PCBU) = RFC),
Was RFC contracted to play AFL (AFL then also becomes a PCBU /employer)
Do the AFL contract umpires as responsible people or PCBU's.
Are Umpires corporate bodies or individuals?

It would be several years before a court sorted this out.

Post of the year for me - and I work in the field.

An ill wind is coming - and our backwater sport will be dragged literally (and financially) into the real world.

And if anyone thinks this is specious - talk to your local footy club re 300+ game players and how they’re going. Personally know of suicides with brain donations diagnosing CTE.

The media rights will pale into insignificance………..

 

[DickieKnee]

Houli's hit on Lamb was a perfect example of "Careless, Severe impact, High contact."

 

[BillHickman]

Just lucky for Dion it was the good bloke top bloke careless shoulder that got him, imagine if it was the other shoulder...

 

[Area51]

Post of the year for me - and I work in the field.

An ill wind is coming - and our backwater sport will be dragged literally (and financially) into the real world.

And if anyone thinks this is specious - talk to your local footy club re 300+ game players and how they’re going. Personally know of suicides with brain donations diagnosing CTE.

The media rights will pale into insignificance………..

Can't come soon enough. Drag the campaigners at AFL house into it in their personal capacities.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

Thats utter bullshit, carless would be if he bumped him high contesting the football. He ran past the ball with only one intention.

i don't see how this is any different to a punch. he never looked at the ball. it was off the play. his only intention was to hurt meatball. did he mean to send him into the 4th dimension? maybe not (I think he did, so that we lose our best mid for 3-4 weeks as salty scott has PTSD about us making finals) but this was no different than belting someone for the hell of it. intentional as it gets

 

[Sterge]

Hi Cats fans, no one here cares what you think.


Consider this your first and last warning

 

[tigersnag]

David King on the money as well.

Along the lines of forget about the perp, concentrate on the victim.

And the most telling... Michael Christian absolute farce to this point. His soft stance on high shots.

Christian has been absolutely diabolical. Says a lot about Gill and the AFL that he still has a job. He's a fool. and I think they like him taking the heat off their own incompetence.

Seriously this game will be dead in 30 years the way it's going. Head injury compo and the lawyers will bend these fools over and ram them until they're bled dry and I'm completely serious.

 

[beema limapep]

The fix is in.

Falsification of the grading down to 'careless' to achieve the sought after 3 week outcome.

 

[Funky Chicken]

Meth city by the bay fans showing their level of literacy by being unable to read the NO OPPO SUPPORTERS banner at the top of the thread.

 

[beema limapep]

Thats utter bullshit, carless would be if he bumped him high contesting the football. He ran past the ball with only one intention.

Exactly.

 

[Grockadoc]

Funny thing is, several Scats fans think they won "fairly and squarely".

As a quote from the new season of the boys "Is your idiot brain getting ****ed by stupid?" How could they think they won that fairly.

 

[tigerisland]

Post of the year for me - and I work in the field.

An ill wind is coming - and our backwater sport will be dragged literally (and financially) into the real world.

And if anyone thinks this is specious - talk to your local footy club re 300+ game players and how they’re going. Personally know of suicides with brain donations diagnosing CTE.

The media rights will pale into insignificance………..

Yer. Seems the law does not exist in Geelong. I spoke to a guy today who played high level rugby. Friend of his he played with has Alzheimers at 43.
I am doing some of my best work on the Geelong board. I am not trying to troll, just inform but it is a thankless task.

 

[beema limapep]

Just told a tiger family member (who called it yesterday that victim Stewart would get the soft touch) that it got down graded to careless.

He literally p155ed himself laughing for about 40 seconds.

 

[Tiges1229]

Is anyone really surprised it’s graded as careless ? Seriously ?

 

[Noidnadroj]

We don’t want to go down this road. I for one wouldn’t want to support a team that did this - even to try and make a point. I want to win on merit, not feel like a victory is hollow by deliberately harming oppo player’s and their careers. I hate injuries to any AFL player from any club. They have a limited career span and I wish them all to have a fair crack at it.

I agree … except another team will do it to us … again …. and no-one cares about ‘it wasn’t won in the spirit’. My point was more that the AFL has seen first hand what should be done and that’s a sin-bin based on video review of incidents. But they’ll sit on their hands and react only after someone loses a flag because of it.

It’s like the stupid sub rule. It’s a disaster waiting to happen. It almost happened in the Port v Tigers PF. Ebert? knocks himself out with 5-minutes to go, and Port get fresh legs in a tight game with exhausted players. Richmond’s sub is sitting idle. Now just imagine for 1 second it was Port’s sub that kicked the winning goal after taking a couple of bounces and out-running an exhausted player who’d played 118 minutes in the wet. Again, it’s a disaster waiting to happen but the AFL are too daft to take action before it’s an issue.

In fact, earlier this season Mason Cox can’t get a kick in the pouring rain in Freo … he is subbed out and Oliver Henry comes on and kicks 4-goals. Cox plays the next week. Not a single eyelid is batted by anyone at AFL headquarters. It’s just laughable.


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[banana_bus]

Careless. They're not even trying to cover up the corruption anymore.

 

[Tony Stark]

Calling it now, as sure as my arse points to the ground if the AFL bring in a red card rule it will be a Tiger who will be the first recipient.

 

[Tassie27]

I am so despondent. I love to watch the Tigers play but almost each week I end up feeling crappy after the game.

 

[tigersnag]

Hope Dion is doing well, bloody champion.
Blokes has been lost in all this by a lot of us as all the focus is on the Cats Coward's gutless action.

 

[Serenitylater]

Careless. They're not even trying to cover up the corruption anymore.

They haven't tried to cover up their corrupt ways for a while now.
The arrogance of these pricks is astonishing.