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This aged like a stale bottle of pi$$ lolTIGERS RELENT IN DEAL FOR HOPPER
Richmond will begrudgingly release Ivan Soldo to Greater Western Sydney to seal the Jacob Hopper deal, as the Tigers plan for a potential five-man bench that could pave the way for clubs to play two full-time ruckmen.
Soldo is getting his head around leaving for GWS in a deal that Richmond hopes could see them hand over Soldo, pick 31 and a future first-rounder, but secure one of the Giants late 2022 picks.
The Tigers are hopeful of taking a selection to this year’s draft – potentially to even use on a young tall in the Jack Riewoldt succession plan – so hope the Giants might be willing to return a late pick to them.
The deal for Jacob Hopper could be close. Picture: Jason McCawley/AFL Photos
But the intriguing element of the trade is what might happen to the controversial sub rule next year.
News Corp revealed mid-season that the lobbying from the AFL Doctors Association had brought about assurances from the AFL they would remove the current sub rule, which requires a doctor to rule a player must be likely to miss the next week through injury.
Richmond’s understanding is that there is a significant possibility the clubs might just be given a fifth player on the bench to use freely rather than a medical substitute, which has required an injury to bring the fifth player on.
A five-man bench would give clubs latitude to play a second genuine ruckman, rather than one with another tall who can also pinch-hit in the ruck.
Richmond would have been perfectly poised with Toby Nankervis and Soldo as an elite ruck duo but the Tigers realise releasing contracted Soldo is the only way to secure Hopper.
They have high hopes for Ben Miller and Samson Ryan and could also play Noah Balta as a second ruck.
But the club would love to keep Soldo, who rebuffed Western Bulldogs interest to sign a new three-year deal last year.
Ivan Soldo could be on his way to GWS. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos
The Canberra-raised ruckman had a medical with GWS last week.
New Giants coach Adam Kingsley is a big fan of Hugo Ralphsmith but the Giants have plenty of running backs so have not asked for the 20-year-old – and Richmond will not release him.
Clubs would ideally have advance warning on what the 2023 sub rule or expanded bench would look like ahead of the trade period.
But given the tight turnaround from the 2022 season to the trade period, they have to make guesstimates on what the game will look like next year.
Richmond has only pick 31 after handing over selections 12 and 19 for Tim Taranto, but could ask for the last of GWS’ picks in the Hopper trade to secure a live draft selection.
GWS has picks 3, 12, 15, 18, 19, 44, 61, 63, and even the last of those selections would come in to about 50 given it’s not expected clubs will use their late picks.
Richmond secured five selections in the 2021 national draft – Josh Gibcus, Tom Brown, Tyler Sonsie, Sam Banks and Judson Clarke – and have high hopes for all of them.
It means they have been able to go all-in on two established midfielders on seven-year deals to round out their midfield core.
Didn't we get Jack Graham that is with that #53 ?I am surprised you campaigners have lost your sh!t over Jacob Hopper & Tim Taranto but have forgotten the most important trade of all
Pick #53
Last Time 2016
In: Prestia + Caddy + #53
This Time 2022
In: Taranto + Hopper + #53
Didn't we get Jack Graham that is with that #53 ?
Why? He’s shown how good he is at his current size
Check out his wiki page.
Tetley Tiger
Number 2 on one ass cheek and 23 on the other!So, where are you guys getting your 2023 premiership tattoos? Inner thigh for me.
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And 10 inches.The yellow & black adds about 10kg of muscle to his frame
In the pantsAnd 10 inches.
Watch his 100 games highlights, Hopper is a complete beast, he just mauls people... the way a tiger brings down bambi
This is so like 2017, Hopper is Caddy on steroids and Taranto is Prestia but like full man size
Not so sure about that as he is seriously looking to join Freo (O’Meara)Nah GWS didn't have the coin to pay him once O'Meara became a realistic target. GWS wanted us to hold off on the deal to see if they could land O'Meara and we said no way it's now or never as it was unfair to leave Soldo hanging.
Word is Taranto lives exclusively on theseFull man size Prestia. Gold!
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Do you have a subscription to heraldsun website or a paywall trick?HOPPER JOINS TIGERS IN GIANT TRADE
— Jon Ralph
Damien Hardwick will aggressively chase Tom Hafey’s record of four premierships as Richmond coach after a dream trade period that saw the Tigers secure Jacob Hopper without the loss of ruckman Ivan Soldo.
The Tigers on Tuesday clinched the Hopper trade deal by handing over pick 31 and a future first-rounder for the GWS midfielder, pick 53 and 63.
As the Herald Sun revealed on Monday, the Tigers were desperate to retain Canberra-raised Soldo because they believe the AFL will introduce a five-person bench next year that will allow them to play two rucks.
Instead of having to hand over the king’s ransom for Soldo the Tigers in effect handed over a future first-rounder they will hope is in the mid-teens and only gave up 345 draft points (equal to selection 45) in this year’s draft.
GWS was aware they secured a deal that favoured them when they received picks 12 and 19 for Tim Taranto so were happy to agree to the Hopper deal, with both parties satisfied the cumulative parts of the deal were a win-win.
The Tigers want to take some selections in November’s draft and 53 and 63 will be much higher in the draft order by the time rivals pass up some of their selections in a draft with about 50 live picks.
Three-time premiership coach Hardwick had said earlier this year he would depart Richmond when their premiership window had been slammed shut but instead it has been ripped back open.
The Tigers have secured two inside mids in Tim Taranto and Hopper to rejuvenate their midfield and believe they have elite kids only recently drafted and emerging players like Noah Balta, Shai Bolton and Liam Baker who will keep them in contention.
Jacob Hopper is now a Tiger. Picture: Michael Klein
New GWS coach Adam Kingsley, who finished up at Richmond, is known to believe rucks must be able to contribute strongly around the ground if they are hold their spot in the side.
So in the end Richmond’s determination to keep Soldo and the Giants’ other trade priorities helped keep Soldo at Punt Road, 12 months after he knocked back a hefty Western Bulldogs offer.
Richmond list boss Blair Hartley said the seven-year deal offered to Hopper was reflective of the club’s long-term hopes for the former GWS academy player.
“Jacob has a skill set that we know can help us across the coming years, so it is very exciting to secure this trade with the Giants,” he added.
“At only 25, we believe Jacob’s best is yet to come, and we look forward to him continuing to build off the outstanding seasons of AFL football he has already put together.
It's likely to be several picks higher than 53 with the amount of picks the Lions have to burn this draftI am surprised you campaigners have lost your sh!t over Jacob Hopper & Tim Taranto but have forgotten the most important trade of all
Pick #53
Last Time 2016
In: Prestia + Caddy + #53
This Time 2022
In: Taranto + Hopper + #53
A better version of Jack Graham that can get the ball 3 times as muchThink Dermie gave a good summary of both players on Trading Day on Kayo. He rates Hopper higher than Taranto and Hopper will win a B&F in Y&B, saying he has more tricks with his sleight of hand and sidesteps, whereas Taranto will just bulldoze his way and isn't an elite kick.
Watched the first half of his 100th game against GC in 2021 when he had 41 disposals and 11 clearances, I watched enough to know we committed a heist. Looks almost Cripps like with the way he raises his arms to avoid getting his arms pinged to get a handball away and just pouncing on contested possessions. Salivating already that he has a bit of Dusty in him where he stands up or crashes through tackles.
Flies under the radar a lot but I definitely see Taranto gut run a lot and his defensive acts. He's like a better version of Jack Graham i reckon but just not as good a kick as him.