You know a players mental state call it focus or whatever, when they repeatedly fail to execute under pressure.
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See this is a myth, but many supporters do focus on latest events, rather than a body of work
Come from behind win in round 1 against the Tigers
Won close games against Hawks, Port, Swans, Dogs
This from a side that had the least number of players, 28+ year olds (experience) in the league
Maturity, repeat behaviours, cohesion, these are the vital components
What about (potential) positives. Brodie Kemp is tracking well, despite being drafted with an ACL. Coming from a long way back he had a positive 2022 season. Deployed at both ends of the ground in an undersized KPP role in our seconds, with a couple of decent showings in the top team. Bear in mind was played when our key stocks were decimated, so was forced to assume responsibility beyond his development and perhaps physical range.
I have high hopes for Kemp, but struggle to see what role he may be settled on. Really projects as a genuine tall utility with the scope, skills and athleticism to play in the midfield as well as a third tall/under sized key at either end. I very much hope we can pick up some genuine key position options in the draft. This would/should allow Kemp to assume a more suitable role and/or be released for midfield developmental minutes.
Kemp is out of contract at season’s end, so needs opportunity either at top level or moving to his stated preferred role in the midfield in the seconds. Jack Russell and the coaching staff have been very patient with his physical build up after his earlier injury setbacks. Being forced to play gap filler, has potentially slowed his progress, but should stand him in good stead going forward. 2023 is his year to shine.
McGovern was our poorest recruitment from a health perspective. He had soft tissue issues prior and we payed top dollar on a wing and a prayer. I understand we wanted to attract a “high end” trade at the time, but it was startling when we had Harry, Charlie and Jack developing as tall forwards and big Meat Casboult as more mature support.
Marchbank was a top end signing taken young, so did not cost excessively in financial terms. He was among the highest rated tall defenders to go through a draft in recent times, so was a great get on face value. His injury history is damning and smacks of a body lacking either the maturity or the scope for the grind of AFL. So many posters do not remember or understand the skill set of Marchy, if he is finally over his issues, he will add significant layers to the team.
Love Zac Williams, but to recruit him, and pay him as a gun midfielder was a gamble. Applauded the recruitment and still do, but very much think we over paid. Particularly when we stumped up big for Saad in the same season who plays in Zac’s fallback spot.
Jack Martin was an acceptable gamble. While his initial wage was excessive to facilitate the deal, his ongoing deal is not in the high end range. His potential remains unfulfilled and perhaps has moved from x-factor to skilled, mature presence who adds plenty to the mix, but struggles to stay on the park. Could still end up a key piece in a flag side if Russell and the team can weave some magic. Hoping his work ethic hits a peak.
I don’t like putting Kennedy in this group as his injuries have been pure bad luck. There were few more promising mid/forward types in the league in his first couple of years. Just struggled for opportunity in the stacked GWS midfield. He was a great signing who suffered a debilitating and long term setback very early in his Blues career. For mine, was due opportunity earlier, but our match committee was determined to keep pushing Dow, to the detriment of both players.
Hopeful his current setback is on the minor end of the scale.
Injuries to drafted players like Philp and Cuningham pretty much fall in to the misfortune basket.
All makes for depressing reading, but there is plenty to say that most of those players have come out the other end of their dramas. Many of them are now on dramatically reduced packages off the back of their issues. This could ultimately be a massive bonus, and I am hopeful it will be.
Wasn’t it something about relating the percentage of the list doing 100% of preseason and the likelihood of success/finals/etc?
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Haha yeah, but from memory there was a number that he quoted, say at least 90% of the list doing the full preseason or only having 5 players not do it, and then how that equated to a higher chance of finalsYeah, we are saying the same thing
Doing 100% of preseason = not injured
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So you are saying that the Richmond 2013 - 2015 teams that all went out in high pressure elimination finals were mentally weak?
Or is it possible that the key players in this team that went on to be triple premiership players learnt mental toughess as part of the journey despite having "repeatedly failing to execute under pressure" earlier on?
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Hard to build cohesion when we've perennially got one of the biggest injury lists in the league.
I think we'll keep falling short until we can get on top of this.
It's a huge impediment to winning it all.
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I agree, was hoping we would cut one of the players in that list
Perhaps, it may be a mixture of maturity, body wise
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I would have to review there season but it is likely Richmond lacked hardness during seasons 2013 to 2015 and were mentally weak in that period. I also believe you can develop that in time. However, what perhaps you do not contemplate is that losing can become a habit and it is equally possible to blow the whole rebuild as it is to win a premiership
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It was anytime they had more than 4 players do less than 60% of pre season they struggled.
Anytime they had 4 or less they finished 3rd or above.
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My inclination is to check what position he was playing when he kicked those goals.
If he was further up the ground but outworking his opponent due to having a bigger tank, then he will find it harder scoring as much on a genuine defender with less time and space to get separation.
It's kind of like how Matty Kreuzer would hit the scoreboard by outworking and outmarking less athletic ruckman, but struggled a lot more against genuine key defenders.
Our list is good, it's really good and with some good recruiting at the draft and in coming seasons it could really take off.
IMO we should be one of the teams not just playing finals but as a serious premiership contender. Looking at our best 22 and our depth we are very strong in almost all positions now. Perhaps a little week on one wing and perhaps not super strong up forward but really there's not too much weakness.
A few things we need to get right though are our fitness and depth which are tracking right. Depth looks ok now, was pushed hard last year and did ok but those younger age players should be coming on and now contribute to our depth. Fitness wise, everyone is on track for the start of preseason, at least that's what the injury reports at the end of the season suggested so so far so good.
The game plan is the other part. Blame injuries all you like, game plan is why we missed finals last year. We failed to have a plan b to fall back on, most teams have a more pressure orientated game plan to fall back on. You use it to slow the game down, to regain control, when you're getting beaten or when your team's not playing with the right intensity or competitiveness. We had one game plan and it was the wrong one to have if you are going to have one game plan. We also failed to react and adjust to opposition tactics. Better tactics and better onfield leadership and decision making will go a long way for us.
You can make finals with a heap of injuries, you can make top 4 with a few injuries, you can make finals and go ok with mediocre tactics and game plan but you need it all to click together to win it.
It's a really good list. Keep it fit and get our game plans right and we challenge for the flag.
IMO we should be one of the teams not just playing finals but as a serious premiership contender. Looking at our best 22 and our depth we are very strong in almost all positions now. Perhaps a little week on one wing and perhaps not super strong up forward but really there's not too much weakness.
A few things we need to get right though are our fitness and depth which are tracking right. Depth looks ok now, was pushed hard last year and did ok but those younger age players should be coming on and now contribute to our depth. Fitness wise, everyone is on track for the start of preseason, at least that's what the injury reports at the end of the season suggested so so far so good.
The game plan is the other part. Blame injuries all you like, game plan is why we missed finals last year. We failed to have a plan b to fall back on, most teams have a more pressure orientated game plan to fall back on. You use it to slow the game down, to regain control, when you're getting beaten or when your team's not playing with the right intensity or competitiveness. We had one game plan and it was the wrong one to have if you are going to have one game plan. We also failed to react and adjust to opposition tactics. Better tactics and better onfield leadership and decision making will go a long way for us.
You can make finals with a heap of injuries, you can make top 4 with a few injuries, you can make finals and go ok with mediocre tactics and game plan but you need it all to click together to win it.
It's a really good list. Keep it fit and get our game plans right and we challenge for the flag.
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Kemp tracking well... we must watch different footy. He is a player without a position and what he does do, aint that good. Has shown zero to suggest he is capable of playing at AFL level.
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No sorry, that's not particularly accurate.
Kemp has a position but was thrown around a little this year out of necessity. In case you missed it there was a period through the year when our depth was thread bare through injury, so we had to shift him around out of desperation.
Played the 4 games at senior level (3 + 1 as unused sub) and played reasonably well in each of them, particularly the two latter in the year after which he was reasonably unlucky to lose his place in the side. From memory this coincided with a few players coming back from said injuries.
If he (and most of the squad) can remain healthy in 2023 he's a player who is every chance of making significant strides forwards as an AFL player.
As it is right now I don't know what he is. Would like them to actually settle him in a position, though at the same time would like to see him absolutely grab a position. He's been shuffled around for the team but he also hasn't demanded a position through his play either.
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