Training Pre-Season 2023 (First game 18/3 v North)

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So apparently only the same disappointing collection of Shuey, Gaff, Yeo, Kelly, Redden are allowed to have unlimited time in the midfield. Just keep backing them in time and time again, there's always a genuine reason why it doesn't click (Covid, injuries, aliens, no crowds, not injured but not at full fitness, someone ELSE being injured, weather, Scomo..)

But the actual best WAFL midfielder in the comp we've recently just drafted is shit and doesn't cut the mustard at CBD's.... despite playing a whole 9 games and having next to no chance to show his wares as an inside midfielder?



Gee whiz ShueyKent, you really are something else.
 
Dark Sharks said:
So apparently only the same disappointing collection of Shuey, Gaff, Yeo, Kelly, Redden are allowed to have unlimited time in the midfield. Just keep backing them in time and time again, there's always a genuine reason why it doesn't click (Covid, injuries, aliens, no crowds, not injured but not at full fitness, someone ELSE being injured, weather, Scomo..)

But the actual best WAFL midfielder in the comp we've recently just drafted is s**t and doesn't cut the mustard at CBD's.... despite playing a whole 9 games and having next to no chance to show his wares as an inside midfielder?



Gee whiz ShueyKent, you really are something else.
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Clubs overlooked him in 6 drafts, why wasn’t he picked up if he’s AFL standard?

All the players you mentioned are so far ahead of Clark it’s not funny, he was drafted as depth if we were doing well and a Redden/Shuey went down as our options were XON (who hadn’t shown much the previous year) and West. We had a shit year and the eagles chose instead to invest that time in younger prospects with more potential.

What’s your complaint?
 
Shueygod said:
But it would be pointless to keep him in an inside mid role he has no chance at.


Clark started as a wing where he was the WA u18 captain, you clearly don’t know him well enough to be commenting.
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So you want him to now play the same role that saw him overlooked in the draft....a number of times......and not play the role that he excelled at and finally got drafted as

Strong logic champion
 

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amazingjoshy said:
So you want him to now play the same role that saw him overlooked in the draft....a number of times......and not play the role that he excelled at and finally got drafted as

Strong logic champion
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He was still overlooked as an inside mid champion, he got drafted at 62 as purely a depth option after being overlooked the previous two years he was playing there.

He’s not clean enough to be as slow as he is and never will be, we aren’t talking about a 20 year old he’s 25.

The fact is everyone ahead of him as an inside mid has the potential or already shown they can be a part of a premiership team, Clark (and West) isn’t up to that standard and therefore it would be completely pointless to play them.
 
Shueygod said:
Clubs overlooked him in 6 drafts, why wasn’t he picked up if he’s AFL standard?

All the players you mentioned are so far ahead of Clark it’s not funny, he was drafted as depth if we were doing well and a Redden/Shuey went down as our options were XON (who hadn’t shown much the previous year) and West. We had a s**t year and the eagles chose instead to invest that time in younger prospects with more potential.

What’s your complaint?
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1. He's not the same outside player he was when he was overlooked. He's literally rebuilt his body and changed his game style completely

2. You're writing him off based on a nothing comparison. He's a big bull who hasn't been played as a big bull once by this club. Is he limited? Sure.

3. You're once again kissing the ground of our starting midfield, despite them constantly letting us down. If anything NOW is when Clark should be in there.




The bloke was the best WAFL player hands down and could potentially breath life into our stale outfit... I just don't see why you actually have an issue with that?
 
Dark Sharks said:
1. He's not the same outside player he was when he was overlooked. He's literally rebuilt his body and changed his game style completely

2. You're writing him off based on a nothing comparison. He's a big bull who hasn't been played as a big bull once by this club. Is he limited? Sure.

3. You're once again kissing the ground of our starting midfield, despite them constantly letting us down. If anything NOW is when Clark should be in there.




The bloke was the best WAFL player hands down and could potentially breath life into our stale outfit... I just don't see why you actually have an issue with that?
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1. He got overlooked as a big bodied mid for years including his draft year by every other club.

2. How many one paced mids do you want in there, I’d prefer potential AFL players in Culley and XON getting that time rather than journeyman Clark. If you’re playing all 3 who is the outside receiver?

3. See above.

Rogers is a much better footballer than Clark, and that’s not being disrespectful to Clark, he’s gotten the absolute most out of himself and made it onto a list.

I just don’t see how you can be so pessimistic about everything else, yet you magically think this bloke is going to make the grade.

It’s entirely possible Clark was not only drafted as depth but just to help the WAFL team out so it’s not just kids getting smashed, and before one of you clowns respond “how did that go?”, obviously it’s near impossible to do anything when we barely have anyone on the list playing.
 
Shueygod said:
He was still overlooked as an inside mid champion, he got drafted at 62 as purely a depth option after being overlooked the previous two years he was playing there.

He’s not clean enough to be as slow as he is and never will be, we aren’t talking about a 20 year old he’s 25.

The fact is everyone ahead of him as an inside mid has the potential or already shown they can be a part of a premiership team, Clark (and West) isn’t up to that standard and therefore it would be completely pointless to play them.
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So he's slow and not clean according to you, but he should be try to become a winger at AFL level?

And just forget about the role that made him close to the best player in the WAFL because there's more chance he'll be an AFL player as a wing

Interesting hill
 
People are just annoyed that Clark's never been given a proper go in the position he dominated the WAFL at.

If he's given a run and stink it up, so be it. He's never been given the opportunity however, although I do wonder if that was in relation to his shoulder surgery early this year.
 
amazingjoshy said:
So he's slow and not clean according to you, but he should be try to become a winger at AFL level?

And just forget about the role that made him close to the best player in the WAFL because there's more chance he'll be an AFL player as a wing

Interesting hill
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He’s not as clean as you need to be on the inside with that pace. He got away with it in the WAFL because he was one of the strongest in the comp. How do you think he’d go against a Petracca or Dangerfield?

When in space he has nice disposal and we have far less depth in the wing position, I don’t think he makes it on a wing either, but there’s more chance he could provide something there.
 
bzparkes said:
People are just annoyed that Clark's never been given a proper go in the position he dominated the WAFL at.

If he's given a run and stink it up, so be it. He's never been given the opportunity however, although I do wonder if that was in relation to his shoulder surgery early this year.
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I think it’s relatively easy to tell at training how a player will go at that inside mid position based off their performance against their peers.

Even the tigers game that everyone is raving about he had 1 centre clearance and got most of his ball on the outside.

He just doesn’t have an elite attribute that makes him AFL quality.
 
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Let’s not ignore that he’s still a pretty big unit and could arguably have needed to shed a bit of muscle mass to improve his endurance.

Should he be played on a wing full time? No, that’s not his go

Should he have the aerobic capacity to rotate off a wing for periods? Yes

Aside from our long termers (Shuey, Yeo, Sheed, Kelly and Gaff) we’re going to have the likes of O’Neill, LEdwards, Chesser, Culley, Hough, West and SPS all looking for midfield minutes in either the seniors or Beagles. Plus whatever mids we draft in a couple of days

So Clark should be played predominantly inside as it’s his strength but still be able to have a stint on the outside without blowing up
 
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Let’s not ignore that he’s still a pretty big unit and could arguably have needed to shed a bit of muscle mass to improve his endurance.

Should he be played on a wing full time? No, that’s not his go

Should he have the aerobic capacity to rotate off a wing for periods? Yes

Aside from our long termers (Shuey, Yeo, Sheed, Kelly and Gaff) we’re going to have the likes of O’Neill, LEdwards, Chesser, Culley, Hough, West and SPS all looking for midfield minutes in either the seniors or Beagles. Plus whatever mids we draft in a couple of days

So Clark should be played predominantly inside as it’s his strength but still be able to have a stint on the outside without blowing up
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He looks to have lost a little upper body mass (still pretty good size) but his legs look a little bigger than I remember.
Perhaps it's a Tenacious D to Langdon.
 

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Shueygod said:
Fwiw Clark had 75% CBA’s vs Melbourne finishing with 5 CP’s and 2 clearances, “if he’s given the opportunity he could breath life into the midfield because he has big arms”, his best work at AFL level is on the outside.
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But Yeo, was missing in that game...

And according to you if ONE of our midfielders are missing, it impacts the rest of them and it doesn't count how bad they were.

Isn't that your line of thinking?

Clark also led the eagles with 5 tackles that game, and only Kelly and Duggan had more clearances. Meanwhile only Ryan, Jamieson, Naish and West played less game time than Clark.
 
Dark Sharks said:
But Yeo, was missing in that game...

And according to you if ONE of our midfielders are missing, it impacts the rest of them and it doesn't count how bad they were.

Isn't that your line of thinking?

Clark also led the eagles with 5 tackles that game, and only Kelly and Duggan had more clearances. Meanwhile only Ryan, Jamieson, Naish and West played less game time than Clark.
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I mean midfielders missing should never impact the inside extractor, it obviously impacts first receiver types like Kelly as there is no one winning that hard ball.

Where was the inside bull midfield saviour?
 
Shueygod said:
I mean midfielders missing should never impact the inside extractor, it obviously impacts first receiver types like Kelly as there is no one winning that hard ball.

Where was the inside bull midfield saviour?
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Using one game as a sample size is pretty poor, tbh.

9 out of 10 midfielders would be immediately de-listed if that were the case.
 
Shueygod said:
I mean midfielders missing should never impact the inside extractor, it obviously impacts first receiver types like Kelly as there is no one winning that hard ball.

Where was the inside bull midfield saviour?
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Well, it was the 2nd game of his AFL career, and he had Jamieson rucking to him with West and Kelly. Up against Gawn, Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Brayshaw... you know... last years premier midfield.

Nice of you to label him a failed crab afterwards though. Clearly you expected him to get 30d and kick 4 goals.
 
From Clarks own words, it sounds like he wasn't fit enough this year. Makes sense he has dropped some weight already.

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DanWCE said:
Imagine circling back to not GTFO of Geraldton
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Left Gero when I was 12.

Back when I was 30....

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