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This can’t be good for my local club (aka The Reigning Premiers)



A former Geelong footballer has accused a trio of players of a historic gang rape as he sues the Cats for failing to protect him from sexual abuse.

The ex-player claims he was just 15 or 16 when he was cornered in the shower at the club’s Aberdeen House, a residence for country recruits, and sexually assaulted by three older athletes in the early 1980s.
The man, a prominent Indigenous Elder now in his late 50s, filed Supreme Court action against the Cats this week for a trial by jury, claiming the club had a “duty to take reasonable care of his welfare, safety and supervision” while he was living at the football house as a minor.

“My client has shown a lot of courage and strength in coming forward about his abuse,” said Arnold Thomas & Becker lawyer Angela Di Carluccio.

“He is a proud and well respected Indigenous man who has fought hard in his life to overcome his trauma and to contribute positively to his community.”
The former sportsman, who does not wish to be named, had played for the club’s Under 19s side but left the game soon after the alleged assault.

In documents before the court, he claims the Cats were “vicariously liable for the abuse” because they employed the three alleged perpetrators.
Those three players have not been named in the writ, and have not been added as co-defendants.
“(Geelong FC) placed senior players in a position where they had authority, power, trust, control and the ability to achieve intimacy over the plaintiff, which afforded them the opportunity to abuse (him),” the document states.

“The Plaintiff was vulnerable by reason of his age, displacement from family and dislocation from his home.”
The writ, which has been served to the club, also alleges that Geelong FC failed to protect minors from abuse, to separate minors from adults at Aberdeen House, to supervise the house parent and provide channels to report incidents.
As a result of the alleged assault, the ex-player claims to have suffered a psychiatric injury that led to a loss of earnings and earning capacity, and medical and like expenses.
Ms Di Carluccio said the Cats had “a duty to care for his welfare and safety” while he lived at the property.
“There was a failure to properly supervise Aberdeen House or separate my client from players who were adult men,” she said.
A Geelong FC spokeswoman said the club was unable to comment.
During a recent sale of Aberdeen House, the vendors reported that people in the community would walk up to them and tell them of the Cats’ link to the property, and that they “went to some wild parties here”.

A listing agent selling the home in 2021 told the Geelong Advertiser it was purchased by the club during its 1963 premiership year, and operated as a residence for country players.
The agent said the property was retained by the Cats until the late 1980s or early 1990s, and previously had a unit in the backyard where the house mother resided.


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I can see that you are trying really hard to be clever and creative but in reality you are just flogging it up.

If you really do think I’m a Bombers supporter then you have even less of an idea than I thought. I’ve been here supporting the Saints far longer than you, when you were flogging it up on Saintsational.

Off you go now creep.
Hahaha what is this?
 
This can’t be good for my local club (aka The Reigning Premiers)



A former Geelong footballer has accused a trio of players of a historic gang rape as he sues the Cats for failing to protect him from sexual abuse.

The ex-player claims he was just 15 or 16 when he was cornered in the shower at the club’s Aberdeen House, a residence for country recruits, and sexually assaulted by three older athletes in the early 1980s.
The man, a prominent Indigenous Elder now in his late 50s, filed Supreme Court action against the Cats this week for a trial by jury, claiming the club had a “duty to take reasonable care of his welfare, safety and supervision” while he was living at the football house as a minor.

“My client has shown a lot of courage and strength in coming forward about his abuse,” said Arnold Thomas & Becker lawyer Angela Di Carluccio.

“He is a proud and well respected Indigenous man who has fought hard in his life to overcome his trauma and to contribute positively to his community.”
The former sportsman, who does not wish to be named, had played for the club’s Under 19s side but left the game soon after the alleged assault.

In documents before the court, he claims the Cats were “vicariously liable for the abuse” because they employed the three alleged perpetrators.
Those three players have not been named in the writ, and have not been added as co-defendants.
“(Geelong FC) placed senior players in a position where they had authority, power, trust, control and the ability to achieve intimacy over the plaintiff, which afforded them the opportunity to abuse (him),” the document states.

“The Plaintiff was vulnerable by reason of his age, displacement from family and dislocation from his home.”
The writ, which has been served to the club, also alleges that Geelong FC failed to protect minors from abuse, to separate minors from adults at Aberdeen House, to supervise the house parent and provide channels to report incidents.
As a result of the alleged assault, the ex-player claims to have suffered a psychiatric injury that led to a loss of earnings and earning capacity, and medical and like expenses.
Ms Di Carluccio said the Cats had “a duty to care for his welfare and safety” while he lived at the property.
“There was a failure to properly supervise Aberdeen House or separate my client from players who were adult men,” she said.
A Geelong FC spokeswoman said the club was unable to comment.
During a recent sale of Aberdeen House, the vendors reported that people in the community would walk up to them and tell them of the Cats’ link to the property, and that they “went to some wild parties here”.

A listing agent selling the home in 2021 told the Geelong Advertiser it was purchased by the club during its 1963 premiership year, and operated as a residence for country players.
The agent said the property was retained by the Cats until the late 1980s or early 1990s, and previously had a unit in the backyard where the house mother resided.


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This is horrifying. I hope it gives other victims the courage to come forward with their stories. We need to make sure this stuff never happens again and help victims, as well as understand more about what makes people commit these types of offences.
 

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This is horrifying. I hope it gives other victims the courage to come forward with their stories. We need to make sure this stuff never happens again and help victims, as well as understand more about what makes people commit these types of offences.

Someone has alleged something. Its not horrifying unless its true.
Or is everyone guilty of anything anyone makes allegations about?
If it is true, did The Geelong FC really know it was going on?
They are guilty because they employed the perpetrator. Yet the perpetrators are not being prosecuted ( no money to be made ).
 
This is horrifying. I hope it gives other victims the courage to come forward with their stories. We need to make sure this stuff never happens again and help victims, as well as understand more about what makes people commit these types of offences.
I don't know why Geelong is liable. Unless they knew and did nothing.
 
That's the pre-game and it's finished, hence the "replay" in the top right of the thumbnail, boomer.

Luckily I'm not from a couple of generations ago so found it with ease :cool:

I'll note you said you couldn't find North v Blues, that's an obvious sync as the abruptness was a dead give away.

And since Kayo uses the Foxtel stream and Foxtel was showing adverts when you asked, filter the pre game since it's an obvious sync when the game starts without the lead in advertisements and wait for ze refresh. Given the rather abrupt ending of said pre-game that comes before the actual game, hence the pre.

This English lesson brought to you by me eating pretzels, which are good for all generations as I'm not an elitist like some. :moustache:
 
I'll note you said you couldn't find North v Blues, that's an obvious sync as the abruptness was a dead give away.

And since Kayo uses the Foxtel stream and Foxtel was showing adverts when you asked, filter the pre game since it's an obvious sync when the game starts without the lead in advertisements and wait for ze refresh. Given the rather abrupt ending of said pre-game that comes before the actual game, hence the pre.

This English lesson brought to you by me eating pretzels, which are good for all generations as I'm not an elitist like some. :moustache:
Triggered like a typical boomer 😎
 
Triggered like a typical boomer 😎

Says the one that piped up hours afterwards after being told to search for it. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.:p

I don't know why Geelong is liable. Unless they knew and did nothing.

They owned the property and thus would have employed the staff or had a hand in, depending on what was then signed they could have inferred all liability from that ownership of things that happened within. So even if say they didn't know but the person they hired then hired a known pedo to then be around teenage boys in a home, they could then be used if that pedo did anything as they should know who is in and out of that house as owners in that capacity.

Given the naming is other players preyed on new players, it's an insular link to infer owners would or reasonably should know what would happen if mixed. As we know with Muir, those times there was very little oversight and some people who should never have been employed in those sort of capacities were there, doing those things, and no one was any the wiser or chose to turn a blind eye.

Also, Cats have form in that regard, Ablett snr went through that in the courts, as did Dan Menzel on the aggressor side. So who knows if they'll play for a culture thing for those times.
 
Says the one that piped up hours afterwards after being told to search for it. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.:p



They owned the property and thus would have employed the staff or had a hand in, depending on what was then signed they could have inferred all liability from that ownership of things that happened within. So even if say they didn't know but the person they hired then hired a known pedo to then be around teenage boys in a home, they could then be used if that pedo did anything as they should know who is in and out of that house as owners in that capacity.

Given the naming is other players preyed on new players, it's an insular link to infer owners would or reasonably should know what would happen if mixed. As we know with Muir, those times there was very little oversight and some people who should never have been employed in those sort of capacities were there, doing those things, and no one was any the wiser or chose to turn a blind eye.

Also, Cats have form in that regard, Ablett snr went through that in the courts, as did Dan Menzel on the aggressor side. So who knows if they'll play for a culture thing for those times.
Yes they may be legally liable.
Its probably not actually their fault , especially of the current managment.

Wonder if it'll go to court or whether its just "take this cash and &^%$ off".
 
Says the one that piped up hours afterwards after being told to search for it. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.:p



They owned the property and thus would have employed the staff or had a hand in, depending on what was then signed they could have inferred all liability from that ownership of things that happened within. So even if say they didn't know but the person they hired then hired a known pedo to then be around teenage boys in a home, they could then be used if that pedo did anything as they should know who is in and out of that house as owners in that capacity.

Given the naming is other players preyed on new players, it's an insular link to infer owners would or reasonably should know what would happen if mixed. As we know with Muir, those times there was very little oversight and some people who should never have been employed in those sort of capacities were there, doing those things, and no one was any the wiser or chose to turn a blind eye.

Also, Cats have form in that regard, Ablett snr went through that in the courts, as did Dan Menzel on the aggressor side. So who knows if they'll play for a culture thing for those times.
Still triggered. Bliss!
 
Yes they may be legally liable.
Its probably not actually their fault , especially of the current managment.

Wonder if it'll go to court or whether its just "take this cash and &^%$ off".

Hammer Ban GIF
 
Interesting that the perpetrators are not named as co-defendants, not sure where the law sits with this but would it not be difficult to sue Geelong without the conviction of a crime actually being committed. Must be a lot more to come out about this as with no names, how can anyone investigate.
 
Interesting that the perpetrators are not named as co-defendants, not sure where the law sits with this but would it not be difficult to sue Geelong without the conviction of a crime actually being committed. Must be a lot more to come out about this as with no names, how can anyone investigate.


Might be that the lawyer has told him that there is very little chance of a conviction against the players after so long so that the best cause of action is suing the club for failing its duty of care.
 

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Might be that the lawyer has told him that there is very little chance of a conviction against the players after so long so that the best cause of action is suing the club for failing its duty of care.

Which is kind of messed up when you think about it.
 
Which is kind of messed up when you think about it.

Plenty of institutions failed to put any protection in place when looking after kids. There is likely to be more to the story. If it was reported and ignored it changes the culpability for example.
 
Just havin' a bit of a look, could be some good close games today. Freo would wanna get moving soon but I have a feeling the Crows might get it done at home. Then certainly a juicy one between the tiges and the doggies. Richmond with some big 'ins', dusty, hopper and sonsie, though I'm a little surprised they dropped rioli. I reckon Hopper will prove to be the more valuable pickup over time versus Taranto, been watching Taranto a bit and heard the talk and yeah, his kicking does leave a bit to be desired, even for an inside mid.

Dogs are an interesting watch this year, looked alright last week but seem a bit disjointed so far. Strong looking team on paper and probably should get it done but not sold on 'em yet. Richmond also seem to be a bit flaky at the mo' but with dusty and hopper coming in their team is strengthened considerably. No idea how this one might play out but would probably tip the dogs by a couple of goals.

Sydney you'd think should win at home but I reckon Port might surprise tonight. I can see them coming out like their season is on the line. We might see them more like round one rather than the pretty average last two weeks. If they slip to one win from four, the Hinkster will be on the grill! Don't mean sh*t really but port have won the last three against the swans, so obviously match up reasonably well. Could be a close one.

Which brings us to the Saints. Will leave this talk for the game day thread but think it will be a close one, and could very easily go either way. Wang and the Pou will start to feel at home at the dome and hopefully we get to see some mad skillz (is that what the kids say? 🥴) 😄

Gonna make a day of it today, three games in a row, about to head to the market for a joint. 😲 Got a hankering for something low and slow, maybe beef, but will wait and see what looks good. Eight hours in the oven set aside depending on what I can grab, so back from market and joint in by eleven will take us to 7pm. By then also have the trimmings sorted so all clear for a hands free first half feast, all the while floating all day amongst slow cooked aromas like Fred smelling Wilma's pie. 🤨
 
Just havin' a bit of a look, could be some good close games today. Freo would wanna get moving soon but I have a feeling the Crows might get it done at home. Then certainly a juicy one between the tiges and the doggies. Richmond with some big 'ins', dusty, hopper and sonsie, though I'm a little surprised they dropped rioli. I reckon Hopper will prove to be the more valuable pickup over time versus Taranto, been watching Taranto a bit and heard the talk and yeah, his kicking does leave a bit to be desired, even for an inside mid.

Dogs are an interesting watch this year, looked alright last week but seem a bit disjointed so far. Strong looking team on paper and probably should get it done but not sold on 'em yet. Richmond also seem to be a bit flaky at the mo' but with dusty and hopper coming in their team is strengthened considerably. No idea how this one might play out but would probably tip the dogs by a couple of goals.

Sydney you'd think should win at home but I reckon Port might surprise tonight. I can see them coming out like their season is on the line. We might see them more like round one rather than the pretty average last two weeks. If they slip to one win from four, the Hinkster will be on the grill! Don't mean sh*t really but port have won the last three against the swans, so obviously match up reasonably well. Could be a close one.

Which brings us to the Saints. Will leave this talk for the game day thread but think it will be a close one, and could very easily go either way. Wang and the Pou will start to feel at home at the dome and hopefully we get to see some mad skillz (is that what the kids say? 🥴) 😄

Gonna make a day of it today, three games in a row, about to head to the market for a joint. 😲 Got a hankering for something low and slow, maybe beef, but will wait and see what looks good. Eight hours in the oven set aside depending on what I can grab, so back from market and joint in by eleven will take us to 7pm. By then also have the trimmings sorted so all clear for a hands free first half feast, all the while floating all day amongst slow cooked aromas like Fred smelling Wilma's pie. 🤨


What ****in joints are we talking about here???
 
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