Prediction Changes: Round 6 Vs Bulldogs + Pre-match discussion

[Snuffaluphagus]

 

[malpaso]

What we don't need is a repeat of the first half last time we played these guys. Would be nice to win a first quarter for once.

Dunkley is gone, he is a big loss for them.

 

[malpaso]

Sean Darcy needs to physically intimidate English. We control clearances we win.

English gets you around the ground though, that is harder to stop. He has gotten very good in linking up around the ground.

 

[malpaso]

Banners with 7 contested possessions. Equal most with Freddy for a forward.

Sick of seeing the ball waltz out this year, he needs to stay in.

Yes he can turn it over but he is actually quite clean crumbing and he actually hits the scoreboard.

Also brings solid pressure.

He is useless in a forward line that is trying to score AND apply pressure. Should be playing WAFL and he will soon because Corbett is 500% better than him.

 

[freo1997]

He is useless in a forward line that is trying to score AND apply pressure. Should be playing WAFL and he will soon because Corbett is 500% better than him.

Corbett needs to kick straighter first.

 

[freo1997]

Little worried Bevo will check the tapes and get someone to blanket Amiss manhandling etc.

Amiss was so good on the Weekend! Rising Star nod?

 

[Big Animal]

Same team please, if Switta is injured then bring Brodie into the 22 and make Erasmus sub. With a smaller forwardline we have enough mobility up forward to cover the fwd/mid connection that Switta brings

I agree but I'd like to see Wilson back for Wagner. I can give young 1st round picks a fair bit of slack to make mistakes here and there, but that was not a great showing and some poor mistakes and decisions from a 26 yo who seemed very undersized for the position. Also Wilson earned it for his efforts when sent back to Peel.

 

[Footskill]

0 tackles in 2 weeks, 3 pressure act in those same 2 weeks. Josh Treacy exceeded both those defensive stats in his single game. Alex Sexton played forward for GC, is seen as lacking in his pressure and out tackled Bailey despite being on the ground for less than half the time he was. You and I had as many tackles in the last fortnight as Banfield did. Despite being on a couch or in a pub, we had the same impact as he did on keeping the ball in our forwardline.

There's reasons to like Banfield, I get why people do, but the idea he is a good defensive forward is the biggest myth that exists. By no metric at all is he a good pressure forward.

Ummm ok..but maybe should try getting more than 3 disposals in a game and try consistently kicking a goal a game. Even off the bench banners was better lol

 

[freo1]

Very interesting game coming up against the Dogs. I'm still not convinced that we "won" the game against GC, more so, they ran out of legs and gave it up. Once Darcy got on top of their young ruckman ( playing in his second game) we got more dominant. Also if Lukosious kicked straight we would've been in trouble.

I was really disappointed that after all the talk pre and post game about home truths, and good hard training etc we still started so poorly, with no change to previous weeks. It's a damning stat that of our last 20 games we have only won 3 first quarters out of 20. JL isnt the most inspiring of speakers, maybe he's putting them to sleep before the game?

This weekend will tell us if we actually did start to play well, or if GC just fell over. Either way, our first 2 quarted against GC showed no improvement from previous weeks and that was what was so disappointing.

Fingers crossed we're on the up, time will tell.

 

[Tundrawolf]

Ummm ok..but maybe should try getting more than 3 disposals in a game and try consistently kicking a goal a game. Even off the bench banners was better lol

Pretty sure the point of the post wasn't about Treacy, but about Banfield.

And if so it was well made.

 

[Wobbly Punt]

Ummm ok..but maybe should try getting more than 3 disposals in a game and try consistently kicking a goal a game. Even off the bench banners was better lol

 

[Footskill]

By referring to Treacy so called defensive pressure is greater than banners, infers to me that you think these attributes he displays so far is greater than what banners does and should be in the team instead of. If that was read wrong, apologies

 

[malpaso]

I agree but I'd like to see Wilson back for Wagner. I can give young 1st round picks a fair bit of slack to make mistakes here and there, but that was not a great showing and some poor mistakes and decisions from a 26 yo who seemed very undersized for the position. Also Wilson earned it for his efforts when sent back to Peel.

Wagner is a way better defender than Wilson, mistakes were early in the game.

 

[malpaso]

Very interesting game coming up against the Dogs. I'm still not convinced that we "won" the game against GC, more so, they ran out of legs and gave it up. Once Darcy got on top of their young ruckman ( playing in his second game) we got more dominant. Also if Lukosious kicked straight we would've been in trouble.

I was really disappointed that after all the talk pre and post game about home truths, and good hard training etc we still started so poorly, with no change to previous weeks. It's a damning stat that of our last 20 games we have only won 3 first quarters out of 20. JL isnt the most inspiring of speakers, maybe he's putting them to sleep before the game?

This weekend will tell us if we actually did start to play well, or if GC just fell over. Either way, our first 2 quarted against GC showed no improvement from previous weeks and that was what was so disappointing.

Fingers crossed we're on the up, time will tell.

I think our scouting department is doing a crap job on opposition analysis if we are starting so badly. We are obviously figuring some things out and rectifying on the fly.

 

[SupermanCapes]

Wagner is a way better defender than Wilson, mistakes were early in the game.

I don't recall ever seeing Wilson look so out of his depth as Wagner did for the whole first half against GC. Like someone said above, I can absolutely excuse those sorts of mistakes from a first gamer looking to find their feet, it's much harder to accept from a 26 year old who was supposed to come in as plug and play. Wagner was the biggest liability on a team that was being made to look like WAFL players, and by some stretch. He surely has to go to Peel and absolutely dominate before getting another shot.

 

[freoextra]

Sean Darcy needs to physically intimidate English. We control clearances we win.

Would love that but English is playing a great role for the Bullies at the moment - might be easier said than done.

 

[Taylor]

Would love that but English is playing a great role for the Bullies at the moment - might be easier said than done.

Tim English should be the Dog's ball movement target on transition all game, running Darcy into space and marking. So we will need to be having Darcy getting dangerous ahead of the ball.

Jackson on English would be my move. Tag him around the ground. Need to force Naughton to contest marks forward of centre because the other talls aren't taking marks.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

 

[Taylor]

Scan Sam's back now, just to be sure.

 

[wakojako]

Scan Sam's back now, just to be sure.

Just rest him this round if he is so important to us. There's no need to rush him back.

 

[Superkoops]

I don't recall ever seeing Wilson look so out of his depth as Wagner did for the whole first half against GC. Like someone said above, I can absolutely excuse those sorts of mistakes from a first gamer looking to find their feet, it's much harder to accept from a 26 year old who was supposed to come in as plug and play. Wagner was the biggest liability on a team that was being made to look like WAFL players, and by some stretch. He surely has to go to Peel and absolutely dominate before getting another shot.

He built into the game. He doesn’t look comfortable in the last line of defence. Most of the mistakes I recall related to difficulty with the speed and intensity step up from VFL/WAFL. Also to be fair he seemed rushed into the side. I would have let him play another game at Peel before bringing him in. But what had been done has been done now so let him have another week. I don’t mind him working his opponent up the ground and being out-bodied and marked at 75metres from goal rather than at 30metres from goal.

Move him up the ground to HBF / Wing.

 

[drxce]

I wish JOM got the same support on this board as Sturt seems to get

 

[drxce]

English gets you around the ground though, that is harder to stop. He has gotten very good in linking up around the ground.

Jackson definitely the better match-up for English around the ground. I would love to see Jackson get some more ruck or midfield minutes to follow him around.

 

[gungho]

The most important thing is our forward line in my opinion. We are not going to win a premiership without a well functioning one.

When Fyfe comes back, who does he replace and where should he be positioned? I personally don’t think he should be anywhere near Amiss or inside forward 50. I reckon the best position for Fyfe is 60-90 metres from the goal to present a contest. Forget goals, if he can take 7or 8 marks and get 15 possessions and 5 or more score involvements he’s had a good game.

Who will be the best key forward to compliment Amiss? Not sure it is Jackson. Not sure it is Treacy and it definitely is not Tabs. Maybe we just haven’t found them yet…. Or maybe it’s someone left field like keuk. We desperately need to find that person. (Naughton or himmleberg….)

How do we get another 3 years out of Sonny? Cause Amiss probably won’t be hitting his straps for another 50 games.

There is a lot of figuring out in the forward line to be done before we become a decent team in my opinion….and, to be perfectly frank, when the match day committee fails to play Amiss or Johnson in round 1, then drops Brodie from the midfield, I begin to have my doubts on their wisdom.

 

[SHill Shall]

I wish JOM got the same support on this board as Sturt seems to get

Why?

 

[SHill Shall]

There is a lot of figuring out in the forward line to be done before we become a decent team in my opinion….and, to be perfectly frank, when the match day committee fails to play Amiss or Johnson in round 1, then drops Brodie from the midfield, I begin to have my doubts on their wisdom.

My thoughts exactly!

They seem to be all over the shop.