VFL 2023 - Reserves Game Day discussion Rnds 1 - 22 (Merged threads)

[Michael Jezz]

Why do we find it so hard to move on from players who almost certainly aren't going to make it, guys who have been given their chances? We need to get better as a club and move people on when they need to be, you don't win premierships by being nice.

Correct. Great post
Dow not AFL
Plowman not AFL
Ed Curnow no longer AFL unless a pure tagger
Play Carrol, Kemp and Binns to see what they've got

 

[Stamos]

Dow has been given a crack, and what we have seen at the level isn’t good enough.. we have had similar players 8. The past who dominated VFL but just could never make the jump, think Nick Graham, Matt Watson etc.. Dow seems certain to join this lot. Right now I would rather give Binns a crack than Dow.

When?
He got 2 (non-consecutive) games last year. None yet this year.

 

[Sector 7G]

This is a reasonable point, is Dows dominance at VFL level a direct result of Mirk of dominating taps, this doesn’t happen at AFL level where we are usually 50/50 at best.

Only 1/3 of his possessions are clearances. He is still getting another 20 possessions a game. Would still win some clearances with another ruck.

We currently don't run enough mids through the middle and up forward he would at least do as much as Honey (I like honey but it was crazy to put him into the 1s after a very poor 2nds game after a long injury over the summer) as Paddy is a goal kicker in the 2s.

 

[gbatman]

Players can improve, young players tend to get better. Some start off as nowhere near AFL quality and end up quite good AFL quality. Too many of Dow's games were played when he should have been playing VFL.

Here's what I think, out of Hewett, Kennedy and Curnow. Only 1 will be in our next premiership team. We aren't the only team who has had too many good but slow and immobile mids in their side and has had to part with one or two to make the balance right and take the next step.

What we are doing now in our midfield is the equivalent of going in with 4 big but good key position players in defence or attack. 4 Weiterings or 4 McKays. Sometimes it works, other times you get torched. Big, tall and slow rule applies the same in the middle as it does in defence or forward. You need some, you can't have too many.

Unfortunately injuries are not helping.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Anyone know how Carroll went?

ineffectual.

 

[Aphrodite]

The game will be live-streamed on the AFL website from 11:05am

Despite being named in the VFL squad on Friday, Tom De Koning

12

Tom De Koning

Age

25

Ht

201cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

1.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

1.5

5star

- who has been managed - won’t play at any level this weekend, while Brodie Kemp and Lochie O’Brien come out of the side which beat Richmond last week due to AFL emergency commitments.

Harry Lemmey and Alex Mirkov will also miss the game.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Great to see Boyd named, hope he plays well and gets through unscathed…

 

[BigFrizz36]

Not good if you have a number in the 70's.

 

[Sin City]

Great to see Boyd named, hope he plays well and gets through unscathed…

Hope he’s feeling fit because with that back 6 named he has a shitload of running ahead of him

 

[The Bighouse]

Interesting TDK named …

TEAMS: Smithy’s VFL Round 5

All the teams for Smithy's VFL Round 5.

www.afl.com.au

CARLTON
B: D. Akuei (41), S. Durdin (38), L. Plowman (20)
HB: L. Parks (63), B. Kemp (17), J. Boyd (37)
C: J. Binns (25), A. Stevens (64), L. O'Brien (4)
HF: B. Crocker (57), H. Lemmey (33), L. Fogarty (8)
F: N. Cahill (54), H. O'Keeffe (35), B. Ronke (67)
R: T. De Koning (12), P. Dow (2), J. Carroll (16)
INT: H. Ramshaw (51), L. McMahon (52), P. Dozzi (53), B. Kuipers (60)*, T. Leiu (55)
EMG: M. Lewis (58), A. Mills (59), D. Porter (72), J. Lefroy (79), H. Sinnott (75), L. Swaney (76), L. Prout (74), M. Moschetti (68)

IN: J. Boyd, T. De Koning, L. Plowman, A. Stevens
OUT: A. Cincotta (AFL), A. Mirkov (injured), M. Moschetti, L. Swaney


Tom De Koning has been named in Carlton’s team alongside Lachie Plowman and Jordan Boyd, but he has been listed as managed and must be considered unlikely to play, and the Blues also won’t have top grade debutant Alex Cincotta or ruckman Alex Mirkov for its game against Sandringham at Ikon Park.

What’s wrong with Mirk?

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Hope he’s feeling fit because with that back 6 named he has a shitload of running ahead of him

Noticed that myself, not a great deal of run provided by the other named defenders, McMahon and Leiu are another 2 talls who play back, although Leiu has been playing more down forward…

 

[BRADLESTICKS]

Hope he’s feeling fit because with that back 6 named he has a shitload of running ahead of him

I would like to see Carroll get some game time across half back to help out and provide some run and get some confidence

 

[Arr0w]

Let's see how the boys go at centre stoppages without being fed by Mirkov

 

[Mondyboy]

So Mirk was this weeks mystery injury.

If TDK doesn’t play, O’Keefe is going to have a time of it. Could be a great learning opportunity. He is a good tap ruckman. And we might see the Lem-ster take centre bounces.


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[TENACIOUS]

 

[Arr0w]

Looking forward to this game, Boyd, Kemp, etc, midfielders without Mirkov

Huddo spending more time in the ruck

Binns not far away if he keeps playing well

Dry day, no breeze to speak of, great for footy

 

[Aphrodite]

The game will be live-streamed on the AFL website from 11:05am


Team is in ...

VFL team news: Boyd to return

Jordan Boyd will play his first game of the 2023 season in the VFL.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Despite being named in the VFL squad on Friday, Tom De Koning

12

Tom De Koning

Age

25

Ht

201cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

1.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

1.5

5star

- who has been managed - won’t play at any level this weekend, while Brodie Kemp and Lochie O’Brien come out of the side which beat Richmond last week due to AFL emergency commitments. Harry Lemmey and Alex Mirkov will also miss the game.

 

[Arr0w]

Kemp and LOB as the emergencies

 

[SurreyBlue]

Kemp in the seniors for McGovern?
No TdK

 

[Benaly28]

No Lemmey?


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[SkyhorseTamer]

Big games for Dow and Carroll. Without Mirk and without cincotta and Kemp driving play from the back half. Good test for them to figure out how to influence the game.

 

[Benaly28]

Kemp in the seniors for McGovern?
No TdK

They always take 2 into the main game,one for sub the other for last minute outs re Gov last week.

But then again who knows.


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[Coona Blues]

Kemp in the seniors for McGovern?
No TdK

Nothing definitive, regular practice to hold over sub plus one emergency. Would love Kempy to get a game, but don’t want an out through an injury either.

 

[Jeremias]

Great opportunity for O’Keeffe here.

Big test against a very experienced ruck in Campbell.

 

[HarryFlashman]

The ground always looks amazing